Isolated in this Webforum?

This is the place to shave off that long white beard and stop being philosophical; a forum for members to just talk like normal human beings.

I am isolated and belong to one of the following four groups:

I) My isolated group knows about its isolation and wants to drive others into isolation.
1
14%
II) My isolated group knows about its isolation and does not want to drive others into isolation.
3
43%
III) My isolated group does not know about its isolation and wants to drive others into isolation.
1
14%
IV) My isolated group does not know about its isolation and does not want to drive others into isolation.
2
29%
 
Total votes : 7

Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby Otto » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:58 am

MagsJ wrote:
Otto wrote:We all have intentions, the only question is in which situations we have them.

=; Basic!

I would say, (a) you are neutral, as you should be as a moderator, which you were in former times, or (b) you try to touch all groups equally, which is also quite moderator-like, or (c) you are, if you do not know about the isolation of your group and want to drive others into isolation, in group III, namely very close to the other groups, or (d) you are, if you do not know about the isolation of your group and do not want to drive others into isolation, in group IV, namely very close to the other groups. (Note: The fact that you have said you "take a troll over a sock-puppet" is in your case indicative of group III, not of group IV, because group IV is free of trolls.)

..like I said, I’m not in any one group and I prefer trolls to sock-puppets, and yet you read the unsaid into my published fact.

Imma gonna take my self off to the Mensa sites, because.. ya know. :icon-rolleyes:

Therefore ( :icon-rolleyes: ) I said, „(a) you are neutral, as you should be as a moderator, which you were in former times, or (b) you try to touch all groups equally, which is also quite moderator-like“; but since September/October 2019 you are no moderator anymore:

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Therefore ( :icon-rolleyes: ) I offered you two alternatives. "There are more people in a group than people who think they are not in a group" (An old and famous philosopher). Even this one is in a group:

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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby MagsJ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:02 am

Otto wrote:Therefore ( :icon-rolleyes: ) I said, „(a) you are neutral, as you should be as a moderator, which you were in former times, or (b) you try to touch all groups equally, which is also quite moderator-like“; but since September/October 2019 you are no moderator anymore:

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I’m probably (a), tho I can sometimes do (b) ..for the sake of amusement.

Therefore ( :icon-rolleyes: ) I offered you two alternatives. "There are more people in a group than people who think they are not in a group" (An old and famous philosopher). Even this one is in a group:

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He’s definitely in a few groups alright.. he’s certainly got very specific tastes, and he owns the world to boot.. :lol:
Is that your account? If it isn’t, why choose that one? Purple semi-precious gem stones? ..neat. I’m a sucker for them myself.. I have a veritable collection of semi-precious stone jewellery.

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You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby Otto » Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:38 am

MagsJ wrote:He’s definitely in a few groups alright.. he’s certainly got very specific tastes, and he owns the world to boot.. :lol:
Is that your account? If it isn’t, why choose that one?

The one who owns the world also owns the groups contained in it.
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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:09 am

Otto wrote:The one who owns the world also owns the groups contained in it.

Go away.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby Otto » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:20 am

From his point of view, that's how it is! 8)

Do you feel insulted? :oops:
And if so, why? :oops:
Sorry. :oops:
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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby MagsJ » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:03 am

Otto wrote:From his point of view, that's how it is! 8)

Do you feel insulted? :oops:
And if so, why? :oops:
Sorry. :oops:

The world is a construct. I’m sure you understand what I’m getting at and alluding to..?

Those that stay within their set, are welcome to it ..those that venture out, grow their character and confidence more, than those that don’t/who become hollow inside.. void of character and kindness.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

Postby Otto » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:48 am

Currently there is a lot of talk about trolls and sock-puppets here at ILP.

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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Otto » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 pm

              What annoys a poster more: the troll or the sock-puppet?

              Trolls and sock-puppets are functions of a strategy.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby encode_decode » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:40 pm

              Otto wrote:What annoys a poster more: the troll or the sock-puppet?

              Trolls and sock-puppets are functions of a strategy.

              And what is the strategy of a troll? So their strategies pay off? Perhaps low dividends!!!
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              I only meant that the cat knows - or discovers - that we can toss it out a window at any time = "authority". Dogs accept that notion more quickly - not as willing to test it. O:) - obsrvr524
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Otto » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:47 pm

              encode_decode wrote:
              Otto wrote:What annoys a poster more: the troll or the sock-puppet?

              Trolls and sock-puppets are functions of a strategy.

              And what is the strategy of a troll? So their strategies pay off? Perhaps low dividends!!!

              The strategy of a troll is to isolate the others, to destroy them, but sometimes also to have fun with them under the condition that this leads to the goal of having no other topic than the topic "fun".

              This is my assessment. I do not consider myself a troll, but I am interested in the motives of trolls.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm

              otto you are a funny guy :)
              At the beginning there was only Chaos, Night, dark Erebus, and deep Tartarus. Earth, the air and heaven had no existence. Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of long ages, sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest. He mated in deep Tartarus with dark Chaos, winged like himself, and thus hatched forth our race, which was the first to see the light. That of the Immortals did nove yielded themselves to their lovers when almost at the end of their youth, being led away by the gift of a quail, a waterfowl, a goose, or a cock.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:57 am

              Otto wrote:
              MagsJ wrote:He’s definitely in a few groups alright.. he’s certainly got very specific tastes, and he owns the world to boot.. :lol:
              Is that your account? If it isn’t, why choose that one?

              The one who owns the world also owns the groups contained in it.

              Did you say that, because of this: https://youtu.be/3cfVZ7TdPKo ?
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              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Sculptor » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:20 am

              Otto wrote:Do you think that you could be isolated in this webforum?

              You could belong to one of these four groups:

              I) An isolated group that knows about its isolation and wants to drive others into isolation.
              II) An isolated group that knows about its isolation and does not want to drive others into isolation.
              III) An isolated group that does not know about its isolation and wants to drive others into isolation.
              IV) An isolated group that does not know about its isolation and does not want to drive others into isolation.

              Feel free to come out of the closet. :lol:

              Please copy the following depiction, fill in your position within one of the four groups and post it.

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              Thank you.


              How do you propose such groups are isolated?
              You have not said exactly what you mean by this. Surely "membership" of any group has to be a venn diagram where where ideas and your positions on things would overlap with other people. As individuals "membership" of a group is not really possible since any other member is likely to take different stance on some other issue.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Sleyor Wellhuxwell » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:46 pm

              polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:otto you are a funny guy :)

              Being funny seems to be Otto's job here on this internet platform. :)
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:52 pm

              hes a really funny guy in the right kinda way. no offence otto.
              At the beginning there was only Chaos, Night, dark Erebus, and deep Tartarus. Earth, the air and heaven had no existence. Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of long ages, sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest. He mated in deep Tartarus with dark Chaos, winged like himself, and thus hatched forth our race, which was the first to see the light. That of the Immortals did nove yielded themselves to their lovers when almost at the end of their youth, being led away by the gift of a quail, a waterfowl, a goose, or a cock.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Otto » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:21 pm

              Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:
              polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:otto you are a funny guy :)

              Being funny seems to be Otto's job here on this internet platform. :)

              Yes, being funny is my job, but my job ethic has limits, moreover, I often have vacations.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:52 pm

              _
              I quite like the autonomy and freedoms my non-group isolation gives me..

              ..tho only 95% of the time, and not all 100% of the time.. so not wholly antisocial.
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              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Otto » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:12 am

              MagsJ wrote:_
              I quite like the autonomy and freedoms my non-group isolation gives me..

              ..tho only 95% of the time, and not all 100% of the time.. so not wholly antisocial.

              But you are 95% antisocial then - according to your own words. .... Nice.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:01 am

              Otto wrote:
              MagsJ wrote:_
              I quite like the autonomy and freedoms my non-group isolation gives me..

              ..tho only 95% of the time, and not all 100% of the time.. so not wholly antisocial.

              But you are 95% antisocial then - according to your own words. .... Nice.

              The 5% is the percentage of me that wants to go Out Out, every-so-often.

              Sometimes I fulfil the want, but more often-than-not, I don’t.
              The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:16 pm

              Duties and responsibilities are not the same as not having freedoms as long as you have chosen them yourself. You are not more free than a busy working mother or a lawyer working 16 hours a day just because you sit in your house, talking to your cats or whatever...if that were the case then the prisoners who do nothing but lay on their asses and smell their farts would be the most free people in our society. Not taking up investments and not making choices that cut your choices also demands an investment and also cuts your choices; a man who has a whole day to himself has neither a job or a family and is paying the consequences for his choices as much as a man who has a job and a family but does not have a whole day to himself. Freedom is not anarchy and wild and lazy trifling about, doing as you please without taking into account others around you...A man who refuses to co-operate with his fellow countrymen and neighbors is definitely less free than a man who constrains himself and does cooperate. Look at an idiot kook like Satyr...what is he free to do?walk between his living room and the toilet and spout shit on the internet and see his son on the weekends???thats freedom???that has nothing to do with freedom, freedom is a precondition, not a condition.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby Otto » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:19 am

              MagsJ wrote:
              Otto wrote:
              MagsJ wrote:_
              I quite like the autonomy and freedoms my non-group isolation gives me..

              ..tho only 95% of the time, and not all 100% of the time.. so not wholly antisocial.

              But you are 95% antisocial then - according to your own words. .... Nice.

              The 5% is the percentage of me that wants to go Out Out, every-so-often.

              Sometimes I fulfil the want, but more often-than-not, I don’t.

              Do you think then that you are isolated?
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm

              Otto wrote:
              MagsJ wrote:
              Otto wrote:
              MagsJ said: “I quite like the autonomy and freedoms my non-group isolation gives me..

              ..tho only 95% of the time, and not all 100% of the time.. so not wholly antisocial”.


              But you are 95% antisocial then - according to your own words. .... Nice.
              The 5% is the percentage of me that wants to go Out Out, every-so-often.

              Sometimes I fulfil the want, but more often-than-not, I don’t.
              Do you think then that you are isolated?

              Isolated from others in this Webforum.. mostly so. However, who knows if One has or has not crossed paths with Another.. or Three, from ILP.

              ..but what does it all mean??? to you..?
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              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 pm

              polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:Duties and responsibilities are not the same as not having freedoms as long as you have chosen them yourself. You are not more free than a busy working mother or a lawyer working 16 hours a day just because you sit in your house, talking to your cats or whatever...if that were the case then the prisoners who do nothing but lay on their asses and smell their farts would be the most free people in our society. Not taking up investments and not making choices that cut your choices also demands an investment and also cuts your choices; a man who has a whole day to himself has neither a job or a family and is paying the consequences for his choices as much as a man who has a job and a family but does not have a whole day to himself. Freedom is not anarchy and wild and lazy trifling about. A man who refuses to co-operate with his fellow countrymen and neighbors is definitely less free than a man who constrains himself and does cooperate. Look at an idiot kook like Satyr...what is he free to do?walk between his living room and the toilet and spout shit on the internet???thats freedom???

              Can you give me something less rambling and less presumptuous to reply to.. I’d appreciate that very much.
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              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:57 am

              You are a pretentious dullard, is this less rambling and presemptous(although you use this word wrong)?
              At the beginning there was only Chaos, Night, dark Erebus, and deep Tartarus. Earth, the air and heaven had no existence. Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of long ages, sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest. He mated in deep Tartarus with dark Chaos, winged like himself, and thus hatched forth our race, which was the first to see the light. That of the Immortals did nove yielded themselves to their lovers when almost at the end of their youth, being led away by the gift of a quail, a waterfowl, a goose, or a cock.
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              Re: Isolated in this Webforum?

              Postby MagsJ » Mon May 03, 2021 7:17 pm

              polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:You are a pretentious dullard, is this less rambling and presemptous(although you use this word wrong)?

              ..and yet you posted nothing on-topic, to counterbalance the off-topic?

              No, I used the word (presumptuous) correctly.. and you are also a flaming troll.
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              I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
              You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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