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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:37 am

The economy must be taking an incredible hit. Yes, stock markets are doing well, but this is because they are not connected to reality, but rather to what the rich are doing and fantasies driving investment. Perception can create 'positive' results. The money that will actually go into government services - and things like health care and public education and elder care and so on....jesus, the rubber band has to break. How, when, where, how fast, I have no idea. How deep also the problems will go, I am not sure.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:54 am

Stocks, along with bonds, commodities and derivatives of all three, are what underlie all your money. Your pension, if you are not one of the rich you say you hate, is not in cash, which would depreciate and leave you with nothing, it is in stocks. Stocks are what allow money made today to remain valuable tomorrow. Money doesn't exist, it is a place-setter for commerce, for valuable business activity.

It is not what the rich are doing, my uneducated friend, it is what everybody is doing. Everybody that works and adds value to a business.

I repeat: all bank value, except for some nominal minimum amount of cash, is in stocks. That is how they are able to keep up with inflation and even provide you with returns on your savings. If you don't like this, take the money out of the bank and store it. But you won't because you are aware that it would just depreciate.

So how about we stop our uninformed finger wagging and crack a book open?

Have you ever read a book on financial markets and how they work?
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:03 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:The economy must be taking an incredible hit. Yes, stock markets are doing well, but this is because they are not connected to reality, but rather to what the rich are doing and fantasies driving investment. Perception can create 'positive' results. The money that will actually go into government services - and things like health care and public education and elder care and so on....jesus, the rubber band has to break. How, when, where, how fast, I have no idea. How deep also the problems will go, I am not sure.

The long term goal is an international one world currency and eventual global singular world government making all nationalist governments redundant or useless. They're propping up the current system until they have the pieces in place to achieve that goal, when they do they'll eventually remove the carpet from under everybody's feet. Covid19 looks like that international crisis they just can't waste to which they'll utilize for furthering their goals or international coordinated agenda.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:32 pm

I'm really looking forward to internet censorship and criminal "Hate Speech" laws of a Joe Biden presidency where literally anything can be classified as a thought crime. I'll probably give up the internet at that point.

Also, the war against White people will be drummed up. A good White goy is a dead one, we must kill White people to save the planet, fight global warming, or some shit.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:35 pm

I literally post about a huge global famine that is suppose to happen next year and German professors getting their house swatted for expressing nothing more than an opinion on the virus where everybody here has gone silent. Perhaps I should of talked about marijuana or some other kind of triviality as that seems to amount the level of intellectual discourse here.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:58 am

Zero_Sum wrote:I'm really looking forward to internet censorship and criminal "Hate Speech" laws of a Joe Biden presidency where literally anything can be classified as a thought crime. I'll probably give up the internet at that point.

Also, the war against White people will be drummed up. A good White goy is a dead one, we must kill White people to save the planet, fight global warming, or some shit.


yes like they did when obama was in office i totally remember this

i heard bill gates was going to force everyone to have microchips in stalled in their brains that would aitomatically take money from your bank acct when you commit a thought crime and then send the money directly to planned parenthood

also 5g causes covid
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:21 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:
yes like they did when obama was in office i totally remember this

i heard bill gates was going to force everyone to have microchips in stalled in their brains that would aitomatically take money from your bank acct when you commit a thought crime and then send the money directly to planned parenthood

also 5g causes covid


It's cute that you think I can't see or comprehend your subtle sarcasm. Yeah, it's not like in every historical era there is a group of powerful men that always seeks to rule the world plotting against everybody else that inhabits it, that's just crazy talk! Conspiracies happen and are real where I'm really not interested in your denunciation of them when they're found throughout all of human history.

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yes like they did when obama was in office i totally remember this


You know, I remember Obama becoming president like it was yesterday, I was just out of high school when he became president.

People really thought Obama was going to usher in a post-racial United States [which is why an overwhelming number of White Americans voted for him his first term] and many thought he would put an end to the Bush administration's forever wars overseas.

Under Obama progressive political correctness increased in all public spheres of the nation and of course instead of creating a post-racial United States all we got instead was an anti-white tirade amongst his Marxist supporters or admirers. Instead of ending the Bush wars he increased them along with bailing out banks, corporations, and financial hedge funds.

i heard bill gates was going to force everyone to have microchips in stalled in their brains that would aitomatically take money from your bank acct when you commit a thought crime and then send the money directly to planned parenthood


I highly doubt you even follow the news of experimental technology of the likes such as DARPA.

Really though, that post is just sarcastic conjecture of somebody that doesn't want admit conspiracy is real. The kind of knee-jerk reaction of somebody who has too much faith in the current authorities or status quo. This post says more about you than it does of me.

also 5g causes covid


Don't know about 5G, never really looked into it to be honest.

I do know that if you die of a motorcycle accident in Florida it's classified as being Covid19 related.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:06 am

A mortician in the family has tested corpses for Covid to see if its presence matches their Covid caused death certificate and most of the tests are negative for Covid. No traces of Covid. Most of the death certificates stating Covid as the cause of death are false, absolute lies. I say if they didn’t die from fever or lungs full of fluid, they didn’t die from Covid.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:51 am

WendyDarling wrote:A mortician in the family has tested corpses for Covid to see if its presence matches their Covid caused death certificate and most of the tests are negative for Covid. No traces of Covid. Most of the death certificates stating Covid as the cause of death are false, absolute lies. I say if they didn’t die from fever or lungs full of fluid, they didn’t die from Covid.


i know a bunch of people who lost their sense of taste and were sick af in february and couldnt get tests

there are more sick than the numbers show because those people couldnt get tests
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:46 pm

"Papers please, do you have your Certification Of Vaccination I.D. immunity passport?"

"You don't? Well, I'm afraid you can't work, attend school, be in public, or have any sense of normal life until you comply, you will comply, won't you?" "It's now time to isolate and quarantine you along with your entire family until compliance is met."
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Meno_ » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:26 pm

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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:52 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:I'm really looking forward to internet censorship and criminal "Hate Speech" laws of a Joe Biden presidency where literally anything can be classified as a thought crime. I'll probably give up the internet at that point.

Also, the war against White people will be drummed up. A good White goy is a dead one, we must kill White people to save the planet, fight global warming, or some shit.


how can you be so impressionable as to truly buy into this same old hype i mean remember when obama was prez and the thought police showed up and then they took all your guns and your rights i mean come on man dont be a dupe
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:19 pm

"Hi, this is your employer speaking, say, did you get the vaccine and immunity passport? No, you didn't? Sorry, we're going to have to terminate your employment effective immediately. Have a nice day!"
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:04 am

be real lol
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Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:52 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:be real lol

Really, you think this can be just ruled out?
1) we have a system in place like that with children, vaccines and access to schooling.
2) there is a lot of 'more pandemics on the way' talk out there
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... on+the+way
3) there has been a year of moral groundwork in various media and an official at least media consensus that it would be one's duty to be vaccinated. IOW we have a moral framework to support legislation or executive fiat around either mandatory vaccination or participation infringement punishment for not vaccinating.
4) they have developed cards that demonstrate one has been vaccinated.

To say it will happen seems not yet demonstrated.
To rule it out or consider concerns about it silly seems foolish to me.

And note, most government denials relate to direct making mandatory vaccines. But you can exert tremendous pressure by requiring vaccination and proof thereof for participation in various part of society.

Would you be against mandatory vaccines?
Would be against people needing to show proof of vaccine to travel, go to school, work for a company or government agency, etc.?
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:22 pm

"Would you like a second stimulus check? You'll need that vaccine first along with an immunity passport."
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:42 am

who cares about 1200 bucks? if 1200 bucks makes a difference to you then u are not a real american
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:30 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:who cares about 1200 bucks? if 1200 bucks makes a difference to you then u are not a real american


41 million people on the verge of house eviction currently and let us not forget all the millions of people unemployed on the government dole still.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:56 pm

2026- "Oops, our Covid19 vaccine has caused indefinite infertility in a majority of women not to mention it has cancerous enabling cells that is going to kill you in ten years or less, sorry about that, but hey look on the bright side of things, the chosen people of humanity will finally inherit the entire world in your absence all to themselves. By the way, with that Covid19 immunity passport, did you know it now acts as a digital wallet where you can purchase things on Amazon or even get a subscription of Amazon Prime? Act now and today you can get that 50% discount subscription as you lay cancer ridden dying in your shitty residence somewhere. Smile citizen, you got ten years or less to live, it's not so bad. The future is looking great now since there will be less of you as we gravitate towards the event horizon of A.I. and advanced quantum computer systems, here's some pain medication for the cancer. Try watching some Netflix to get distracted from the fear of dying, hush now, don't complain or make a ruckus, we finally gave you a universal basic income as you're no longer necessary."
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby iambiguous » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:10 pm

Lewis: Machines are gonna fail. And the system's gonna fail. Then...
Ed: And then what?
Lewis: Then survival. Who has the ability to survive. That's the game: survive.
Ed: And you can't wait for it to happen, can you? You can't wait for it.

Of course that was decades ago... :wink:

And then there's this part:

Ed: Well, the system's done all right by me.
Lewis: Oh, yeah. You got a nice job. Got a nice house...nice wife...nice kid.
Ed: You make that sound rather shitty, Lewis.
Lewis: Why do you go on these trips with me, Ed?
Ed: I Iike my Iife, Lewis.
Lewis: Yeah, but why do you go on these trips with me?
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Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:01 am

Zero_Sum wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:who cares about 1200 bucks? if 1200 bucks makes a difference to you then u are not a real american


41 million people on the verge of house eviction currently and let us not forget all the millions of people unemployed on the government dole still.


u a socialist?
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:03 am

Yeah he has nazi on his title thing.

But I think he's coming around to the good side.

Child is just confused.
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:11 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah he has nazi on his title thing.

But I think he's coming around to the good side.

Child is just confused.



hes been going from one ism to another for years a rapid cycling ismer
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Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:12 am

hes over there fists clenched, teeth grinding like "caNt fIGuRE oUt wHO tO FolLoWwwwWW"
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Re: Enjoying This Collapse Of The United States And World.

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:15 am

He appears far more laid back than thee, but that's again just my opinion.
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