just out of curiosity...

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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:03 pm

He's back...

σάτυρος wrote:Creating self-referential self-affirming mental models is a symptom of autism and hyper-masculinity.
No model can be absolute, if it incorporates chaos - properly understood and defined - into its analysis.

A mental model, a world view, that proports to represent the world and how it works, must remain an exercise in probability analysis, affirming chaos by remaining incomplete and uncertain.


Then on and on and on, paragraph after paragraph after paragraph with the same old "general description intellectual contraptions" that I challenge anyone here to connect to the life that he or she actually lives.

This really is his idea of what being a "serious philosopher" is all about!!

Philosophy above the clouds. :wink:

He and the Rodent deserve each other.

If I do say so myself.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:18 pm

Two "substantive" posts today!

What does it mean?!! :-k

Of course some things never change:

σάτυρος wrote:Philosophy has become a post-modern spinster gossip circle, sharing in-group rumours and second-hand information, concerning what was said by shared icons and idols - i.e., in-group celebrities - to whom it was directed, and, subsequently, what was meant by it, and what was its overt and covert intent.
The perfect milieu for parasitical misers to linguistically exploit and manipulate the prevailing old-hag psychologies of a feminized culture in decline.
Gossip's main function is grooming, i.e., establishing and reaffirming inter-group relationships, orienting and positioning participants within group dynamics, and their fluctuating hierarchies.
Language has dimensionally expanded basic primate grooming utilities and tactics, giving the impression that something more profound and mystical is occurring, when all that is truly occurring can be summed-up with the mundane term 'politics', viz., social war - agon - by other means.


This is his idea of examining nihilism "philosophically".

Thus, all I can do is to challenge him or you or others to explain how "for all practical purposes" this intellectual gibberish is applicable to human interactions that do come into conflict as a result of conflicted value judgments rooted existentially in a sense of identity derived from the life that we lived out in a world governed by the assumptions embedded in political economy. Sets of circumstances that I myself explore as a moral and political nihilist.

Or is it all just "tongue in cheek"? His own way of mocking philosophical blather of this sort?

Note to σάτυρος:

Come on, sneak in here again and let's have a go at it.
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:22 pm

More in the way a serious philosopher's insights into nihilism:


σάτυρος wrote: When subjective, emotional criteria have dominated rational, falsifiable, criteria, the slippery slide down moralizing discourse reaches its inevitable destination within herd psychology.
An end, a finality, an absoluteness, is declared as the desirable by-product of a perceived median, which continues to declines as the motive of all-incusive uniformity must accommodate the lowest-common-denominator.


Then paragraph after paragraph of the self-same profoundly turgid intellectual gibberish.

Again, anyone here care to bring this glop of words down to earth. To note how it might be applicable to the lives that we actually live.

Oh, and though σάτυρος is back to contributing on a more or less regular basis at KT, where are the others? Could they all have been like Lyssa, completely made up by him?!
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby promethean75 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:39 pm

You really think it's turgid?

*googles*

Yeah okay I guess it could be turgid.
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:52 pm

promethean75 wrote:You really think it's turgid?


I needed a synonym for "grotesquely swollen pedantic crap".
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby iambiguous » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:41 pm

So, Satyr disappears for weeks. Nothing new in the agora. From anyone. Then he pops back up. But only him. Post after post after post after post of late. All him. Nothing from the others.

Yes, the same "general description intellectual contraptions" in which -- like me -- he basically repeats over and over again the same arguments. With -- like me re dasein -- his own rendition of The Great Theme: genes/memes. But at least he keeps the focus on philosophy. However run-of-the-mill his objectivism might be.

But where are the others? Could it actually be true that as with Lyssa he made them all up?! Could he in fact be the only actual member of Know Thyself.

Well, aside from the occasional Chimp or Rodent he sends off to the Dungeon.

Meanwhile both venues slowly but surely disintegrate back into nothingness. Gone forever are the days when both "camps" more or less teemed with actual philosophical exchanges.

And, sort of, "great battles" were waged between us. 8)
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby MagsJ » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

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I now know, why PolishYouth gets irked so, by the KTS puppet-show.. as I’ve been experiencing it here of late, and it’s been really pissing me off so. That’s not to say that KTS irks me, but just here.. odd that.
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby promethean75 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:48 pm

Well pseudonymous posting is a sophisticated craft not easily done well. But if one is able to build characters who participate in dialogue and represent solid philosophical personalities, well... that's difficult. I mean to make them interesting in the same way voltaire and kierkegaard did.

The only complaint one might rightfully lodge against this, is being led to believe the characters arent the same person and interacting with them as if.
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby promethean75 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:58 pm

And what about the sock puppet antithesis?

What if a single poster name was actually five different people who logged in and used the account?
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Re: just out of curiosity...

Postby MagsJ » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:54 pm

promethean75 wrote:Well pseudonymous posting is a sophisticated craft not easily done well. But if one is able to build characters who participate in dialogue and represent solid philosophical personalities, well... that's difficult. I mean to make them interesting in the same way voltaire and kierkegaard did.

The only complaint one might rightfully lodge against this, is being led to believe the characters arent the same person and interacting with them as if.

It’s either.. all very ‘split personality’ or ‘being deceptive’ to me, but I’ve got my thoughts on this matter out there, and am content with that.

promethean75 wrote:And what about the sock puppet antithesis?

What if a single poster name was actually five different people who logged in and used the account?

As in, what Mr Reasonable did? I thought it amusing, and apparent.
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