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Re: The Philosophers

Postby iambiguous » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:52 am

Fixed Cross wrote:https://voca.ro/fBJvqrnYSEU


Hmm. Is this someone reading Hegel slowed down or someone reading Schopenhauer speeded up?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:53 am

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:59 pm

November 2014:



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Re: The Philosophers

Postby MagsJ » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:14 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Yeah, well said actually. Mimes, puppets, clowns, all kinds of sad circus performers.

I haven’t heard of anyone running off to join the circus.. unless they were unhappy, except for the trapeze and acrobat females.. they join because they’re happy.

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Most of my old friends now let the state media speak for them and are quivering in fear when I expect them to think for themselves. Ive actually seen one shaking when asked to make a few logical steps, which would bring him close to some discernment of reality. But then this friend was already hating on me over a decade ago for paying him compliments on is artistic work of the past - he could not believe I was seriously respecting him, I had to be ironic because - who was he to be respected? Completely warped. Used to be a brilliant, warmhearted dude if a little on the fearful side.

Instead of reasoning they allow themselves to be dangled on strings through their "lives"....

It’s the lives they chose to live, and the people they then became, it seems.. as is the case for us all, on the choices that we make.. in those respects.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:06 pm

"I haven’t heard of anyone running off to join the circus.. unless they were unhappy, except for the trapeze and acrobat females.. they join because they’re happy."

A contradiction, no?

To be fair, none of my circle has ever joined the circus. Except the media circus, which they almost all have joined, meaning they're now all mindless performers, pooping out their offspring and raping it with disgusting values, such as obedience, stupidity, sadism to people who live so far away they can never form a threat - a nasty circus it is.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby MagsJ » Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:09 am

Fixed Cross wrote:"I haven’t heard of anyone running off to join the circus.. unless they were unhappy, except for the trapeze and acrobat females.. they join because they’re happy."

A contradiction, no?

A chasm too.. between the melancholic performing clowns, and the sanguine exhibitionist acrobatic females.. the ringmaster, keeping them all, in check.

What is it, about the lure of the circus or the visiting fair.. when they’re in town, and the characters that unfold.. along with them.

To be fair, none of my cycle has ever joined the circus. Except the media circus, which they almost all have joined, which means they're basically dead.

Hahaha!

Sounds like either the Hall of Mirrors amusement or the Ghost Train ride, that they’ve given themselves up to.. but could also be the Lion Taming or Juggling act. :confusion-shrug:
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:05 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:"I haven’t heard of anyone running off to join the circus.. unless they were unhappy, except for the trapeze and acrobat females.. they join because they’re happy."

A contradiction, no?

A chasm too.. between the melancholic performing clowns, and the sanguine exhibitionist acrobatic females.. the ringmaster, keeping them all, in check.

What is it, about the lure of the circus or the visiting fair.. when they’re in town, and the characters that unfold.. along with them.

To be honest, I can count the times Ive been to a circus on the fingers of one hand. Id even have trouble getting past 1. I remember one experience clearly, there were elephants and I got to ride on one. He was still young, not entirely full grown. And this elephant is literally the only circus dweller I have a memory of at all.

I do remember watching a strange show on HBO about a circus, Carnivale.



Most peculiar and reenforcing in me my aversion to this particular human exploit. Not because of hatred or disgust as just an inability to relate. I simply dont understand the appeal, as there are quite a number of things beloved by most of humankind which leave me only puzzled and just a little bit sad.


On another subject -

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:06 am

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Fanatic? Simply concise? I cant figure it out.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby MagsJ » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:55 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:To be honest, I can count the times Ive been to a circus on the fingers of one hand. Id even have trouble getting past 1.

This is Vanity Fair: please remember, Vanity Fair is a very vain wicked foolish
place.. not a moral place certainty, nor a merry one though, very noisy.. a world
where everyone is striving, for what is not worth having.

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:33 am



This dude can actually think. When does that ever happen.
One of the more freshest videos Ive watched inside a few whiles.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby perpetualburn » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:55 am

Fixed Cross wrote:

This dude can actually think. When does that ever happen.
One of the more freshest videos Ive watched inside a few whiles.


best comment:

"The interwebs as the collective unconscious of a billion momma's boys is so true it's not even funny. "

I actually had a dream a little over a month ago involving a giant, towering Amazonian woman at least four stories tall. Her skin was dark, and she had these really beautiful but beguiling eyes. I remember running through this deserted open air marketplace until I found an old man in a room by himself. He was sort of rocking back and forth and he looked almost to be in a catatonic state, as if he had just seen a a god (the Amazonian). I immediately started reciting a section of one of Shakespeare's Sonnets (or at least my version of it...can't remember the exact lines now... But i remember rhyming in the dream, and it was about how the fair youth is stronger than this woman or the only real god or something). I was trying to tell this old man that this woman was an imposter but it was no use. Everyone (not just this man) had fallen for her charm and consequently had their brains fried and spirits blasted out. I remember someone in the dream saying this woman offered "great rewards" if you worship her.

As far as the video goes, I don't think Christ is more "complex" or stronger than other gods (12:45). There is a tremendous amount of collective psychic energy directed towards and building the idea/reality of the Christ-god archetype (literally countless generations over the last two thousand years), but that doesn't necessarily translate to complexity or elegance. There might be some formidable power there though.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:08 pm

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about Christ.
It's a bit silly to claim he is more complex than the ten dimensional cypher of the Torah.
Still the pornspider idea was pretty cool and relevant. Nothing truly new of course but well formulated.

I've always figured porn is a prelude to a new form of worship - that is, a new religion could be forged from it. But we'd have to differentiate thoroughly and isolate actual worthy young women, say seasonally, rather than allow this megaspider to usurp all of it, the actresses, the phallus, and the audience.
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Re: The Philosophers

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby perpetualburn » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:41 pm

"I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And right now I'm a race car and you got me in the red."
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Jakob » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:39 pm

I don't think there ever was an impulse from white people to go fight nonwhite people. It was more of a cultural thing, where technologically advanced people overran the less powerful. Whiteness was just a convenient reference frame, not an ideology. Not in cases of powerful cultures, only in backwaters of no consequence.

Similarly I don't see, nor hope for, any white counter-offensive against this silly anti white racism. As I don't see homogeneity between whites - I do not consider myself of the same human type as those who voluntarily wear diapers om their face. Africans don't fall for this idiocy, as Arabs don't as they know what it means to obey to a commandment to cover ones mouth. Nor do Chinese embrace it with the same enthusiasm as the western masses - the fanatic obedience to evidently irrational and degrading laws is what signifies the end of the white man's dominion. Anyone who voluntarily wears a face diaper should really forget all idea of belonging to a worthy type of animal species, let alone a superior one.

Caste-divisions aren't being created along racial lines. It's the much more relevant matter of integrity, capacity for truth, and courage - in other words, of ones closeness to the gods.

The government knows it is no god. But it doesn't have the task to tell the people that - it is in that sense the demiurg, the tester, Saturn. The dweller on the threshold.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:18 pm

Masks work and if you change them daily they actually don't smell like a diaper, idiot. The role of a mask is not to block the pathogens(impossible with their size) but to prevent you from touching your face and nose which is how you spread most of the virus load if you don't have a cough and are in a ventilated space with maintained social distancing because moist environments are the best environment for a pathogen to multiply and survive on and be transmitted further. The problem with the West is the all-encompassing and deep-reaching social anarchy and the type of political 'elite' that grew on the Nixonian corpse and the dying out of the Wests moral system in a form of Protestant and Catholic church. The Europeans simply have no authority to refer as far as how one ought to act and live his life issues are concerned and everybody is left to feign for themselves which ends up in a mass confusion and demoralisation as evident on the examples like America or Canada.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Jakob » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:33 pm

I am very happy to hear you are wearing a facediaper. I hope you've gotten your vaccine as well.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby perpetualburn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:37 pm

Jakob wrote:I don't think there ever was an impulse from white people to go fight nonwhite people. It was more of a cultural thing, where technologically advanced people overran the less powerful. Whiteness was just a convenient reference frame, not an ideology. Not in cases of powerful cultures, only in backwaters of no consequence.


White supremacy in the conventional sense would be more like Anglo-Saxon supremacy with Christian overtones, Manifest Destiny and all that. And, of course, the problem with all that is that it doesn't come about organically (there is a rigid conservatism to maintain forms). Whereas the Greeks seemed like "white supremacists" in the sense that what they held to be ascetically "supreme" in form was what we generally consider to be a white male...but this came about organically (not a romantic looking back)..and not something artificially constructed on a whim for propaganda purposes ( like the Nazis with their excessively blocky pictures of an ideal beauty).

"White supremacy" from the mouth of liberals has become anything pro West, however. Thus why I put it in quotations. And thus why I have "philosophical supremacy" as a potentially even more triggering label. For even if the liberals were just fighting against white supremacy in the conventional sense, as if it were the supreme "evil," it would be nothing compared to the triggering effect of philosophy, which would be more selective in its organic approach and far more "evil."

Similarly I don't see, nor hope for, any white counter-offensive against this silly anti white racism. As I don't see homogeneity between whites - I do not consider myself of the same human type as those who voluntarily wear diapers om their face. Africans don't fall for this idiocy, as Arabs don't as they know what it means to obey to a commandment to cover ones mouth. Nor do Chinese embrace it with the same enthusiasm as the western masses - the fanatic obedience to evidently irrational and degrading laws is what signifies the end of the white man's dominion. Anyone who voluntarily wears a face diaper should really forget all idea of belonging to a worthy type of animal species, let alone a superior one.


Not a white counter-offensive in the conventional sense of white supremacy. But a counter-offensive that is supremely pro-West. But yes, it's hard to associate with or call one's own, "white" people that are so eager to humiliate and lower themselves to the status of dogs. That said, can a whore give birth to a hero?


Caste-divisions aren't being created along racial lines. It's the much more relevant matter of integrity, capacity for truth, and courage - in other words, of ones closeness to the gods.


Yes, but there's no denying what was held to be supremely beautiful.

Modern conservatism: Rigid hold on past, romantic, Christian equality (those godforsaken, most un-divine representation of Jesus (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/4c/78 ... 4cb77e.jpg). Clings to a certain of standard of beauty while promoting spirit-flattening, Christian values (schizophrenic... as the highest beauty and Christianity are mutually exclusive ). Servile obedience to god. Although most Christians aren't really Christians to this extent.

Modern liberalism: complete erasure of past, obedience of god replaced with obedience to state, equality and wokeness not in "another life" like Christianity but in this life. Standard of beauty non-existent. In fact, the literal promotion of unhealthy types (the overweight, the ugly, etc as a standard of beauty).
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:45 pm

'Modern conservatism' rigidly holds onto the 'past'???Is this why Donald Trump is on his 3rd marriage and fucked around with Russian hookers and models all his life??? What past??? Beautiful(but futile)attempts to turn the tables around and try to insinuate that what put the West on its knees is what is actually needed to revive it and what actually made it into a global super-power is what actually put it on its knees...ridiculous.
Lets talk a bit about Hitlers contribution to establishing the global Western supremacy???and how free-thinking and free-spirited the Germans were in the Nazi Germany???what you say???
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Jakob » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:20 pm

Perpetual - you have a lot more love for humanity than I do. I found my peer in Nietzsche primarily because of his utterly hilarious observations about the scummy nature of mankind, white as well as any other race. N rarely mentions race, I think quite simply because of the exorbitant ugliness there is to be found aplenty in his own race. I and he advocate the rearing of a new type of standard, something not human, but more dignified, more discerning, more beautifying and beautiful than the human being has, in great quantities, been able to be.

Any human individual can attain magnificent glory in a moment of awakening, but for such glory to be bred into a species is something that won't happen if we let things run their course. To such an end, one must in fact exorcise the ugliest parts from the race. This ugliness is in dishonesty to the self, cowardice, slavishness to arbitrary authorities, looking to others rather than to oneself for wise and honorable impulses -- that type of weakness. Not physical weakness, not being small or fragile - aesthetic and ethical weakness, lack of integrity.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:02 pm

beautiful circlejerk Jacob...make sure you dont spill too much on the carpet. Aesthetic weakness means fuck all the same way saying the 'Greek' or 'German' or that or this aesthetic man was superior or inferior...its superstitious...like saying God 'did it'...like saying something is good and saying it is good because it is benevolent...aesthetic does not refer to a category and certainly does not explain the phenomenon like epistemology, metaphysics, logic and ethics would...its a dumbing down of the intellect and levelling yourself down closer to a state of a primitive animal rather than a human and calling it a progression...making noises, barking senseless and good sounding phrases rather than articulating logical and coherent abstract thoughts.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Meno_ » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:48 pm

Hi Polish Youth see You're home but gotta run. Later alligator
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:31 am

hi meno get out of here or at least watch where you sit...the room is plenty of sperm stains the boys made whilst philosophizing
At the beginning there was only Chaos, Night, dark Erebus, and deep Tartarus. Earth, the air and heaven had no existence. Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of long ages, sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest. He mated in deep Tartarus with dark Chaos, winged like himself, and thus hatched forth our race, which was the first to see the light. That of the Immortals did nove yielded themselves to their lovers when almost at the end of their youth, being led away by the gift of a quail, a waterfowl, a goose, or a cock.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:36 am

The insane ginger Jew from Holland has become the Ubersmench the great Freidrich had dreamt off and has come off a mountain to a Canadian goon asylum to announce his coming and he is currently getting jerked off by autistic neo-nazis...imagine the glory of the days ahead of us...
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Meno_ » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:41 am

I really like You stuff, really do, And You remind me of someone whom I indistinctly trust as a human being.

And my times are exxxxxxxtremely limited.

I thought of switching channels to You, and stopped my inner voice to music., so stickin' here'
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