a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:31 pm

Raven Leilani

...think of all the gods I have made out of feeble men.


And, one suspects, the other way around. Though, sure, maybe not.

I’m an open book, I say, thinking of all the men who have found it illegible.

Of course no one would ever read mine.

As a rule, I try to avoid popping that dusky cherry. I cannot be the first black girl a white man dates. I cannot endure the nervous renditions of backpacker rap, the conspicuous effort to be colloquial, or the smugness of pink men in kente cloth.

You know what they say about rules. But point taken.

Even with good men, you are always waiting for the surprise.

What do you think, "that's life"?

But the beauty of disco is the too much, is the horn section and the cheese.

Next up: the Bee Gees.

And then I miscalculated. Too much anger shared too soon. Too much can you believe these white people. Too much fuck the police. We both graduated from the school of Twice as Good for Half as Much, but I’m sure she still finds this an acceptable price of admission. She still rearranges herself, waiting to be chosen. And she will be. Because it is an art—to be black and dogged and inoffensive. She is all these things and she is embarrassed that I am not.

Today of course at least double it.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:26 pm

Existential Comics

It's amazing how many people want to go back in time and kill baby Hitler. Like, why not just teach him to not be antisemitic as a child? You know he learned that shit right? He didn't have Jew-hating encoded into his DNA.


So, would you take that chance?

Humans are fucking weird. Like, some people will just spend their entire lives trying to swim 100 meters as fast as possible, and everyone else is like "Yes, normal. Good. I really admire your ambition."

Next up: they scored another touchdown!

The Greeks really had the right idea about the Gods. If anything created this world it wasn't an all knowing, perfectly good Being. It makes more sense that it would be a bunch of horny weirdos who fight for eternity over who is hottest and shit.

Let's bring them back! Right, Jacob? Along with the stars.

The weirdest thing about some science people is that they have this strange idea that learning science will help you understand politics better than learning politics will.

Right, like politics can be learned at all.

Work that is necessary for society to function:
- doing housework
- raising children
- studying at school
- organizing social events
If you are doing this work and not getting paid, someone else is taking your money.


Let's actually name them.

People talk about "rational debate" far too much, and "educated debate" far too little.
I have no interest in debating someone who doesn't understand the subject at hand, no matter how "rational" they assure me they are.


Let's resolve this confusion once and for all.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:44 pm

Akwaeke Emezi

Sometimes, you recognize truth because it destroys you for a bit.


And then the ones that rip you to shreds.

Understand this if you understand nothing: it is a powerful thing to be seen.

Or, here, heard? :lol:

The world in my head has been far more real than the one outside—maybe that’s the exact definition of madness, come to think of it.

Or an inexact definition of a "condition".

The first madness was that we were born, that they stuffed a god into a bag of skin.

They again. Let's find them and run 'em out of Dodge.

But I've learned that you can't force forever on the wrong people. They belong exactly where they are, giving exactly what they want to. I don't ask for anything more. I figure I shouldn't have to.

Let's explain what this probably means.

We understood what was necessary---humans often fail at listening, as if their stubbornness will convince the truth to change, as if they have that kind of power.

Yo, Mr. Objectivist. Defend yourself.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:52 pm

Clarice Lispector

Do you ever suddenly find it strange to be yourself?


Me? What do you think?

It is because I dove into the abyss that I am beginning to love the abyss I am made of.

Me? What do you think?

The mystery of human destiny is that we are fated, but that we have the freedom to fulfill or not fulfill our fate...

Right, like that actually makes sense.

The only truth is that I live. Sincerely, I live. Who am I? Well, that's a bit much.

I taught her that. In a previous life I'm guessing.

There it is, the sea, the most incomprehensible of non-human existences.

Next up: these things: https://youtu.be/K4IY3dIwZdI

'I' is merely one of the world's instantaneous spasms.

If only up until the day "I" die. "You" too.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:55 pm

Existential Comics

List of major American event with one consequences:
Iraq War: wealth was transferred to the rich.
2008 Recession: wealth was transferred to the rich.
COVID-19 pandemic: wealth was transferred to the rich.
How is it that any crisis, under any leader, results in the same thing?


Indeed, Naomi Klein wrote an entire book about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine

I really would say twitter is the worst website on earth, if it weren't for the fact that I've been to other websites.

Let's actually pin down the worst website on Earth. Or the second worst if you count Facebook.

The United States: steals land for the country, genocides the natives, industrializes on the backs of slaves.
Some dude on the TV: "this country was founded on the principle of liberty."


Well, history is written by the winners.

The purpose of philosophy is to examine the underlying assumptions of our society. People who say philosophy is useless apparently think this work is finished, and what you see now is the ideologically perfect society.
I don't know about you, but this seems a bit off to me.


Well, philosophy is written by the winners.

Pop quiz: 100 people live on an island and there are 100 houses, what's the most efficient way to distribute them?
If you said "one house to each person", you are an ignorant fool who doesn't understand economics. The answer is "whatever makes the most profit for the landlords".


I know, let these folks decide: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 3&t=195888

according to postmodernism everything is exactly as true as everything else, except for communism, which is twice as true

I know, let these folks decide: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 3&t=195888
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:58 pm

Erich Maria Remarque

No soldier outlives a thousand chances. But every soldier believes in Chance and trusts his luck.


Having been a soldier myself, I guess I fit in there somewhere. If only as a 72B20, But in that hairy hole MACV in and around Song Be.

We want to live at any price; so we cannot burden ourselves with feelings which, though they might be ornamental enough in peace-time, would be out of place here.

I suspect this is aimed more at me than at you.

Why does a man live? In order to think about it.

I'll bet you can take that too far though.

Heaven has no favorites.

Then what's the point of it?

You may turn into an archangel, a fool, or a criminal—no one will see it. But when a button is missing—everyone sees that.

Or when you fly is down.

The wisest were just the poor and simple people. They knew the war to be a misfortune, whereas those who were better off, and should have been able to see more clearly what the consequences would be, were beside themselves with joy.

You know, all the way to the bank.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:53 pm

Robert Altman

Filmmaking is a chance to live many lifetimes.


Like one isn't more than enough, he thought.

I never knew what I wanted, except that it was something I hadn't seen before.

Of course some of us will never find it.

I'll give you the same advice I give my children: Never take advice from anybody.

Consider it taken.

All of my films deal with the same thing: striving, socially and culturally, to stay alive.

And not just in Nashville.

What is an ending? There's no such thing. Death is the only ending.

Tell me about it. You know, while you've still got the time.

Chance is another name that we give to our mistakes. And all of the best things in my films are mistakes.

What's that make contingency and change then?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:08 pm

Doth

Waking up always raises an age-old dilemma: why


1] why not?
2] because


If you know someone who doesn’t have anxiety issues, that’s a demon. You’re friends with a demon.

Come on, who doesn't have anxiety issues?

Hockey is a goth sport, it's cold, you run on knives & usually there is blood. Welcome back.

Fuck all sports, he groused.

Take a moment to apologize to your body for your brain’s bullshit.

Unless of course you're a determinist.

The Democratic Party should just openly say: "We hate progressives."

And they definitely hate Goths. Republicans too.

Be the horrifying backstory of your family's lineage

And then show up on a Dateline segment.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:24 pm

Caleb Carr

There's plenty of stories that need telling what never get told, just because people can't bear the listening.


And no, Mr. Objectivist, not just mine.
Though especially mine, right?


I believe half of a writer’s job is to, really, take you to another world and give you a view of things, information about another world that entertains you and informs you.

Or, sure, disturbs you.

...answers one gives to life’s crucial questions are never truly spontaneous; they are the embodiment of years of contextual experience, of the building of patterns in each of our lives that eventually grow to dominate our behavior.

Or the longer version: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=194382

What we see depends mainly on what we look for.

And how dumb is that, right Kids?

They’ll want him to be mad, of course, Laszlo mused, not hearing me. The doctors here, the newspapers, the judges; they’d like to think that only a madman would shoot a five-year-old girl in the head. It creates certain … difficulties, if we are forced to accept that our society can produce sane men who commit such acts.

See, I told you.

Whatever I thought right seemed bad to others; whatever seemed wrong to me, others approved of. I ran into feuds wherever I found myself, I met disfavor wherever I went; if I longed for happiness, I only stirred up misery; so I had to be called “Woeful”: Woe is all I possess.

And then one day, for some, it possesses you. If only until the day you die.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:31 pm

John Cage

Try as we may to make a silence, we cannot.


Maybe when we're dead.

There are some good people in it, but the orchestra as a whole is equivalent to a gang bent on destruction.

Uh, different folks, different strokes?

Beware of losing what isn't in your head.

The part where I come in, he smirked.

Don't try to create and analyze at the same time. They're different processes.

Your posts more or less than mine?

A meal without mushrooms is like a day without rain.

What's that makes mushrooms then.

One shouldn't go to the woods looking for something, but rather to see what is there.

Let's make that applicable to here.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:07 pm

Jan Mieszkowski

Existential philosophy 1950: picture of Albert Camus
Existential philosophy 2020: picture of the Joker


Enough said, he thought.

Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce. Karl Marx

The third as Trumpworld.

I think therefore I
Descartes: am
Kant: will
Schelling: want
Hegel: won't
Marx: do
Kierkegaard: dare
Freud: desire
Nietzsche: don't


Let's put them in the correct order.

Hegel: There is no ground of the ground
Lacan: There is no other of the other
Adorno: There is no self in the selfie


These are in the right order. Eccept it's the other way around.

English lit: My mind is a labyrinth
French lit: My soul is a phantom
German lit: My heart is a furnace
Russian lit: I think I'm going to lie down on these train tracks


American lit: :lol:

I have a Schrödinger's cat joke but I don't have a Schrödinger's cat joke.

I laughed but I didn't laugh.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:53 pm

Antonio Gramsci

To tell the truth is revolutionary.


He means our revolution of course.

One must speak for a struggle for a new culture, that is, for a new moral life that cannot but be intimately connected to a new intuition of life, until it becomes a new way of feeling and seeing reality.

You know, in theory.

Every State is a dictatorship.

Let's decide: genes or memes?

If you beat your head against the wall, it is your head that breaks and not the wall.

The wall here being objectivists and Kids.

Indifference is the dead weight of history.

What's that make dogmatic ideology than?

All men are intellectuals, but not all men have in society the function of intellectuals.

The sound you hear is that of all women snortling. Except for phoneutria of course. :wink:
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:56 pm

Ottessa Moshfegh

I hated my boyfriend but I liked the neighborhood.


Find another boyfriend?

Those people with perfect houses are simply obsessed with death. A house that is so well maintained, furnished with good-looking furniture of high quality, decorated tastefully, everything in its place, becomes a living tomb. People truly engaged in life have messy houses.

Or apartments.

They were all so jovial and relaxed with one another, fraternal even. Maybe I was envious of that. They had lives—that was evident.

Don't you just hate that?

She was an expert at conflating canned advice with any excuse for drinking to oblivion.

Any canned advice for me?

You can always tell something when a woman is overdressed---either she's an outsider, or she's insane.

And if the woman is buck naked?

I always called back to cancel, which I hated doing because I hated talking to people.

No, this is a real condition.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:24 pm

tiny nietzsche

future batman movies:
the princess batman
my dinner with batman
the unbearable lightness of batman


Thanks, but no thanks.

might fuck around and exist

You know, like we're doing now.

I didn't think the future would get here so fast

And then be gone so quickly.

kierkegaard for president

What, and take votes away from Biden!!!

I'm not even me right now

Like we ever even can be.

me: I feel vague and disconnected, like I'm watching myself from a great distance
doktor: it is what it is


A new trope is born. Or resurrected.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:44 pm

Ram Dass

The ego is frightened by death, because ego is part of the incarnation and ends with it. That is why we learn to identify with our soul, as the soul continues after death. For the soul, death is just another moment.


I know that my ego is.
Not having made the acquaintance yet with my soul.


All you can do for another person is be an environment in which if they wanted to come up for air, they could.

You know, on this side of the grave.

We're all just walking each other home.

Yo, Wendy! :lol:

When someone we love dies, we get so busy mourning what died that we ignore what didn't.

I'll bet he means us.

The game is not about becoming somebody, it's about becoming nobody.

Like after we die, there isn't plenty of time for that.

Unconditional love really exists in each of us. It is part of our deep inner being.

How grotesque if that were true, he thought.
And I think I know what he means.
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Postby iambiguous » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:25 pm

Jeffrey Eugenides

During a warm winter rain ... the basins of her collarbones collected water.


How strange is that?

It was the combination of many factors... With most people, suicide is like Russian roulette. Only one chamber has a bullet. With the Lisbon girls, the gun was loaded. A bullet for family abuse. A bullet for genetic predisposition. A bullet for historical malaise. A bullet for inevitable momentum. The other two bullets are impossible to name, but that doesn't mean the chambers were empty.

The virgin suicides let's call it.

You went out with a girl at first because the sheer sight of her made you weak in the knees. You fell in love and were desperate not to let her get away. And yet the more you thought about her, the less you knew who she was. The hope was that love transcended all differences. That was the hope.

In a word: nope.

Children learn to speak Male or Female the way they learn to speak English or French.

Here we go again: genes or memes?

I have a lot of novels that I haven't finished. I usually get 150 pages in and I realize it's not going anywhere. I don't publish everything I write. I must have six unfinished novels at least.

Me: two unpublished. That's all folks.

On their best days, writers all over the world are winning Pulitzers, all alone in their studios, with no one watching.

I thought that I was. Again, twice. No studio though.
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Postby iambiguous » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:07 pm

so sad today

listen, i’m existentially complicated, okay?


No, really, some of us actually are.

a positive feeling can fuck you up forever

Fortunately, some of us never have one.

we should lose hope together

Your place or mine.

can I count on you to let me down?

Sure, but only if I can count on you to let me downer.

i cancelled myself but unfortunately i came back

Hey, you take your chances.

i hate everything in a whole new way

And how exhilarating is that!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:30 pm

Akwaeke Emezi

The first step to seeing is seeing that there are things you do not see.


A hell of a lot of things. You know, sometimes.

What does a monster look like? Jam asked.
Her mother focused on her, cupping her cheek in a chalky hand. Monsters don't look like anything, doux-doux. That's the whole point. That's the whole problem.


Well, not counting the one in the White House.

It was interesting for us to watch, how he didn’t even have to go anywhere in order to leave her.

After all, who hasn't done this?

It was her first time kissing a white person, and briefly, she wondered why he didn’t have any lips.

Well, that is one point of view.

The truth does not change whether it is seen or unseen.

It would have to be that way...

Adults were like that so much of the time, inflexible when they thought they had something to protect.

Imagine then the Kids!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:27 pm

Clarice Lispector

What I want is to live of that initial and primordial something that was what made some things reach the point of aspiring to be human.


What some no doubt call the soul.

The world's continual breathing is what we hear and call silence.

Or, sure, something altogether different.

I hear the mad song of a little bird and crush butterflies between my fingers.

Yo, Peta?

Do not mourn the dead. They know what they are doing.

After all, they have all that time to practice.

At first she dreamed of sheep, of going to school, of cats drinking milk. Little by little she dreamed of blue sheep, of going to school in the middle of the woods, of cats drinking milk from golden saucers. And her dreams became increasingly dense and acquired colours that were difficult to dilute into words.

Of course that's true of everyone.

For at the hour of death you became a celebrated film star, it is a moment of glory for everyone, when the choral music scales the top notes.

My guess: don't count on it.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:13 pm

so sad today

sleep all day eat all night


Though not necessarily in that order.

why am i still doing this?

Let's tell her.

let’s be honest, you didn’t like me as much as i liked you

Do people still think like this? He said in jest.

it’s hard for me to reach out and tell people what i’m going through because then i have to talk to them

Fortunately, he thought, as close as I get to that is in places like this.

trust your heart just kidding

I will just kidding.

yesss!!! make the global pandemic about you!!!

Or, you know, that guy in the Oval Office.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:35 pm

Erich Maria Remarque

Our knowledge of life is limited to death.


Of course he's just paraphrasing the Grim Reaper.

It was a melancholy secret that reality can arouse desires but never satisfy them.

Well, some of them.

At school nobody ever taught us how to light a cigarette in a storm of rain, nor how a fire could be made with wet wood-nor that it is best to stick a bayonet in the belly because there it doesn't get jammed, as it does in the ribs.

How about your school?

Suddenly I become filled with a consuming impatience to be gone.

And this time from the whole shebang.

... clothes sometimes gave one more of a lift than any philosophic comforting.

He means music of course.

How senseless is everything that can ever be written, done, or thought, when such things are possible. It must be all lies and of no account when the culture of a thousand years could not prevent this stream of blood being poured out, these torture-chambers in their hundreds of thousands. A hospital alone shows what war is.

Never been to war, yourself?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:59 pm

Robert Altman

The Player is not a truthful indictment of Hollywood. It's much uglier than I portrayed it, but nobody would've been interested if I'd shown just how sadistic, cruel and self-orientated it is.


That probably explains this...

They'll never give me an Oscar. And I sincerely, honestly don't care.

No, really, he never got one.

Making a movie is like chipping away at a stone. You take a piece off here, you take a piece off there and when you're finished, you have a sculpture. You know that there's something in there, but you're not sure exactly what it is until you find it.

Wow, like posting here!

Words don't tell you what people are thinking. Rarely do we use words to really tell. We use words to sell people or to convince people or to make them admire us. It's all disguise. It's all hidden -- a secret language.

Wow, like posting here!

I have never made a movie that's attracted a 14-year-old boy.

I can't think of one.

If you have a child who is seven feet tall, you don't cut off his head or his legs. You buy him a bigger bed and hope he plays basketball.

That's what I'd do too.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:55 pm

Philosophy Tweets

"The very ink with which history is written is merely fluid prejudice." Mark Twain


Remember when it was ink?

“If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” George Bernard Shaw

Of course that doesn't work here.

“Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.” George Bernard Shaw

Let's explain that to Mr. Objectivist. Or, sure, Mr. Objectivist can explain it to me.

"Life is and will ever remain an equation incapable of solution, but it contains certain known factors." Nikola Tesla

Let's call this the either/or world.

"A pessimist is a well-informed optimist." Mark Twain

Let's file this one under "things I wished I'd thought of first."

“The desire to write grows with writing.” Erasmus

Not unlike the desire not to write.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:38 pm

Caleb Carr

It is never easier to understand the mind of a bomb-wielding anarchist than when standing amid a crush of those ladies and gentlemen who have the money and the temerity to style themselves “New York Society.”


Easy as pie let's call it.

Kreizler emphasized that no good would come of conceiving of this person as a monster, because he was most assuredly a man or a woman; and that man or woman had once been a child. First and foremost, we must get to know that child, and to know his parents, his siblings, his complete world. It was pointless to talk about evil and barbarity and madness; none of these concepts would lead us any closer to him. But if we could capture the human child in our imaginations – then we could capture the man in fact.

See, asshole, I told you.

...but it was one of those all-too-common moments in New York when one is faced with a damnable set of options.

And, sure, from time to time, in Baltimore.

I fear that in New York State, the electrical chair is increasingly usurping the gallows, Mr. Wolff, he said evenly. Although I suspect that, based on your answers to my questions, you will find that out for yourself. God have mercy on you, sir.

Never actually been on death row myself.

...like the only hummable tune in a difficult opera.

And we know the equivalent of that here. Or at least I do.

Revenge is a kind of wild justice; and the more man turns to it, the more the law ought to weed it out.

Still, they do have to catch you first.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Edward O. Wilson

People would rather believe than know.


Objectively as it were.

Destroying rainforest for economic gain is like burning a Renaissance painting to cook a meal.

On the other hand, for some, a buck is a buck.

Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species.

Commie ants and bees for example.

There is no better high than discovery.

Unless it's discovering it on dope.

If all mankind were to disappear, the world would regenerate back to the rich state of equilibrium that existed ten thousand years ago. If insects were to vanish, the environment would collapse into chaos.

Next up: Actually demonstrating that.

The love of complexity without reductionism makes art; the love of complexity with reductionism makes science.

Well, he thought, I'll be damned.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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