a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:56 pm

me? which vid? why would that be on the list?

this one?
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p2876183

There’s no video.

Sorry, kids.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:15 pm

Tom Stoppard from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?


Anyone here know?

Pirates could happen to anyone.

Nope, not so far.

Whatever became of the moment when one first knew about death? There must have been one, a moment, in childhood, when it first occurred to you that you don't go on forever. It must have been shattering, stamped into one's memory. And yet I can't remember it.

It was March 12th, 1958. About 10 after 11 in the morning. Of course, I'm just making that up.

Rosencrantz: We might as well be dead. Do you think death could possibly be a boat?
Guildenstern: No, no, no... Death is...not. Death isn't. You take my meaning. Death is the ultimate negative. Not being. You can't not be on a boat.
Rosencrantz: I've frequently not been on boats.
Guildenstern: No, no, no---what you've been is not on boats.


Though for you it might not be a boat that you're not on at all.

Stark raving sane.

If that's actually possible of course.

It would have been nice to have had unicorns.

Them and dragons of course.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:23 pm

The Onion

Chic Apartment Features Exposed Brick Right Outside Living Room Window


Your idea of chic may be different.

God Pissed After Learning Cost To Replace Earth’s Core

Or, for that matter, some suspect, even the mantle.

Girlfriend Talks Through Whole Goddamn Commercial

During the Super Bowl no less!!!

Authorities Reveal Murderer Googled ‘How To Leave Obvious Trail Of Homicide Evidence’ Prior To Crime

A pinhead murderer, it turned out.

More Companies Cutting Costs By Replacing CEOs With Prison Labor

And, it turns out, not just in China.

Blue Cross CEO Admits It Would Really Help If Sick Insured People Just Killed Themselves

You know, the bottom line.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:08 pm

Emil M. Cioran from The Trouble with Being Born

Time, fertile in resources, more inventive and more charitable than we think, possesses a remarkable capacity to help us out, to afford us at any hour of the day some new humiliation.


Like, for the pinheads here, posting. Time after time after time.

In Buddhist writings, mention is often made of “the abyss of birth." An abyss indeed, a gulf into which we do not fall but from which, instead, we emerge, to our universal chagrin.

And it's not like we were asked for permission.

If death is as horrible as is claimed, how is it that after the passage of a certain period of time we consider happy any being, friend or enemy, who has ceased to live?

Like he didn't have 84 years in which to end his own.

“Ever since I was born”—that since has a resonance so dreadful to my ears it becomes unendurable.

So, his solution? To endure it for 31,000 days

Every phenomenon is a corrupt version of another, larger phenomenon: time, a disease of eternity; history, a disease of time; life, again, a disease of matter. Then what is normal, what is healthy? Eternity? Which itself is only an infirmity of God.

You know, being optimistic.

An aphorism? Fire without flames. Understandable that no one tries to warm himself at it.

Not counting Nietzsche's of course.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:48 pm

The Onion

Distracted God Accidentally Puts Baby’s Soul In Envelope To Utility Company


That doesn't surprise me given this...

"...an endless procession of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and tornadoes and hurricanes and great floods and great droughts and great fires and deadly viral and bacterial plagues and miscarriages and hundreds and hundreds of medical and mental afflictions and extinction events...making life on Earth a living hell for countless millions of men, women and children down through the ages..."


Recently Divorced Man Understands Working Through Emotions Might Take 2 To 3 Days

Me? About 20 minutes.

Man’s Family Too Ugly To Elicit Incestuous Fantasies

As luck would have it?

Man Figured Drug Addiction Would Take Up A Lot More Free Time

Fortunately, there are more to choose from: https://yourroom.health.nsw.gov.au/a-z-of-drugs

U.S. Blows Itself Up So China Can’t Have It

You know, if it comes to that.

Man Who Donated Sperm 25 Years Ago Contacted By Young Man Claiming To Be Guy Who Drank All His Sperm

Go figure?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:36 pm

Albert Camus from The Stranger

Anyway it was an idea of mother's and she often used to repeat it, that you ended up getting used to everything.


Trust me: there is no fucking way that this is true.

I laid my heart open to the benign indifference of the universe.

Whatever that means, eh?

The day of my arrest I was first put in a room where there were already several other prisoners, most of them Arabs. They laughed when they saw me. Then they asked what I was in for. I said I'd killed an Arab and they were all silent.

And then what?

Throughout the whole absurd life I'd lived, a dark wind had been rising toward me from somewhere deep in my future, across years that were still to come...

Sounds about right.

For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with howls of execration.

Ah, much like the pinheads cursing me here, he thought. And, of course, wishing me dead.

There, too, in that Home where lives were flickering out, the dusk came as a mournful solace. With death so near, Mother must have felt like someone on the brink of freedom, ready to start life all over again.

Either that or oblivion.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:28 pm

I don’t wish you dead. I wish us all fully alive.
If it doesn’t mean the good, beautiful, true end is to be and do self/us as other/them, & vice versa…then I don’t care what it means.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:37 pm

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He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:49 pm

:lol: <— good as any?
If it doesn’t mean the good, beautiful, true end is to be and do self/us as other/them, & vice versa…then I don’t care what it means.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:20 pm

The Onion

Elderly Rite Aid Patron Stretching Out Conversation About Toothpaste To Prolong Human Contact


And don't think this can't happen to you.

All Of Artist’s Nudes Look Terrified

Let's discuss possible reasons.

Maid Of Honor Specifically Selected For Ability To Take Emotional Beating

Modern love, right?

Man Googles Matt Damon's Address Because, Well, He's Crazy And Wants To Murder Him

Either that or he went belly up in the crypto scam.

Budget Nursing Home Just Giant 100-Foot Hole

And a sinkhole at that.

Alito, Thomas Share Laugh After Discovering They Both Leaked Dobbs Decision

The irony being that for both abortion ought to have been mandatory.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:28 pm

Milan Kundera from The Unbearable Lightness of Being

I have no mission. No one has.


If you know what he means. Though what are the odds of that?

Only the most naive of questions are truly serious.

Want to hear mine?

The longing for Paradise is man's longing not to be man.

Well, obviously.

A question with no answer is a barrier that cannot be breached. In other words, it is questions with no answers that set the limits of human possibilities, describe the boundaries of human existence.

Of course: the gap! Right, Rummy?

Another image comes to mind: Nietzsche leaving his hotel in Turin. Seeing a horse and a coachman beating it with a whip, Nietzsche went up to the horse and, before the coachman’s very eyes, put his arms around the horse’s neck and burst into tears. That took place in 1889, when Nietzsche, too, had removed himself from the world of people. In other words, it was at the time when his mental illness had just erupted. But for that very reason I feel his gesture has broad implications: Nietzsche was trying to apologize to the horse of Descartes. His lunacy (that is, his final break with mankind) began at the very moment he burst into tears over the horse.

I'm thinking: Why can't that "final break" happen to me?

The moment someone keeps an eye on what we do, we involuntarily make allowances for that eye, and nothing we do is truthful. Having a public, keeping a public in mind, means living in lies…

Personas let's call them.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:27 pm

The Onion

Study: Majority Of NFL Owners Wouldn’t Let Their Children Purchase Football Team


You know, the risk of concussion.

Man Coming To Terms With Fact That Shower Not Getting Any Hotter

Some, of course, never do.

FDA Recalls Millions Of Chili Peppers, Citing Fact That If You Chop Them And Touch Your Junk, Your Junk Will Burn

There's that word again: junk.

Exterminator Kind Of Surprised Apartment Doesn't Have Roaches

And then there's this exterminator: https://youtu.be/0pMVgzrBFiM

‘What If We Put M&M’s On Top? Would They Eat That?’ Doritos Exec Wonders Out Loud

Next up: 'What If We Put Rat Turds On Top? Would They Eat That?’ Doritos Exec Wonders Out Loud

Man Who Has Never Seen Horseshoe Crab Before Understandably Freaking The Fuck Out

Then moving on: https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... -the-world
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:45 pm

Sylvia Plath from The Bell Jar

But when it came right down to it, the skin of my wrist looked so white and defenseless that I couldn't do it. It was as if what I wanted to kill wasn't in that skin or the thin blue pulse that jumped under my thumb, but somewhere else, deeper, more secret, and a whole lot harder to get at.


Until it wasn't.

And I knew that in spite of all the roses and kisses and restaurant dinners a man showered on a woman before he married her, what he secretly wanted when the wedding service ended was for her to flatten out underneath his feet like Mrs. Willard's kitchen mat.

Just out of curiosity, has that changed?

If I was going to fall, I would hang on to my small comforts, at least, for as long as I possibly could.

Or, as I call them, distractions.

If neurotic is wanting two mutually exclusive things at one and the same time, then I'm neurotic as hell.

1] to live
2] to die


My heroine would be myself, only in disguise.

Any heroines in disguise here?

I wondered what I thought I was burying.

Now we know.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:45 pm

Ralph Ellison from Invisible Man

Play the game, but play it your own way – part of the time at least. Play the game, but raise the ante, my boy. Learn how it operates, learn how you operate.


And, no, not just up in the clouds, okay?

And let's remember that science isn't a game of chess, although chess may be played scientifically. The other thing to remember is that if we are to organize the masses we must first organize ourselves.

Forgotten it already?

...on the other hand, it would be a great mistake to assume that the dead are absolutely powerless.

Not that they know this.

Here are the facts. He was standing and he fell. He fell and he kneeled. He kneeled and he bled. He bled and he died. He tell in a heap like any man and his blood spilled out like any blood; red as any blood, wet as any blood and reflecting the sky and the buildings and birds and trees, or your face if you'd looked into its dulling mirror -- and it dried in the sun as blood dries. That's all. They spilled his blood and he bled. They cut him down and he died; the blood flowed on the walk in a pool, gleamed a while, and, after awhile, became dull then dusty, then dried.

Pretty grim as facts go.

They were very much the same, each attempting to force his picture of reality upon me and neither giving a hoot in hell for how things looked to me.

Fortunately, that will never happen here, of course

I was never more hated than when I tried to be honest. Or when, even as just now I’ve tried to articulate exactly what I felt to be the truth.

My guess: that one person's honest truth is another person's deceitful lie.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:08 pm

Existential Comics

Under communism, you wouldn't have a boss who you have to obey or starve. You'd sort of think this alone would be enough to convince absolutely everyone to become a communist in like 12 seconds, but apparently not??


Workers of the world unite...around Donald Trump. Well, here, most of the white ones, anyway.

Like why did they have to keep making more propaganda after "hey you know that guy who bosses you around that everyone hates but you have to listen to him anyway because he has a piece of paper that says he owns everything? yeah we are getting rid of that system"

Workers of the world unite...around Donald Trump. Well, here, most of the white ones, anyway.

After consulting with philosophy I've determined it's fine to make fun of a dude for having a small dick if he is a misogynist sex trafficker whose entire ego depends on his successful performance of masculinity.

Hint, hint.

Look, I'm a big critic of Elon musk, but you have to admit he has done some good acquiring this site. For example, I get a little bit of joy each morning logging in and seeing how much further the Tesla stock has cratered.

On the other hand, who doesn't?

SIX secrets of highly SUCCESSFUL people:
1. Own property
2. Extract surplus value from the working class who must sell their labor to survive
3. Buy politicians
4. Control the media
5. Control the education system
6. Rely on the State to enforce the social hierarchy with violence


Wow! Imagine if that was actually true!!

Since we always make the GPS voice an English woman in the United States, I think it's only fair that in England it should be a Texas cowboy giving them directions.

Yo, Brits! Weigh in!!
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby MagsJ » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:53 pm

iambiguous wrote:Existential Comics

[b]Since we always make the GPS voice an English woman in the United States, I think it's only fair that in England it should be a Texas cowboy giving them directions.


Yo, Brits! Weigh in!!

How about they upload the device with a selection of voices.. i.e. choice/s.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:39 pm

William S. Burroughs from Naked Lunch

You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative.


See! "The gap"!! "Rummy's Rule"!!!

The junk merchant doesn't sell his product to the consumer, he sells the consumer to his product. He does not improve and simplify his merchandise. He degrades and simplifies the client.

Capitalism, let's call it. Junk everywhere.

Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his asshole to talk?
His whole abdomen would move up and down, you dig, farting out the words.
It was unlike anything I ever heard.
Bubbly, thick, stagnant sound.
A sound you could smell.
This man worked for the carnival, you dig?
And to start with it was like a novelty ventriloquist act.
After a while, the ass started talking on its own.
He would go in without anything prepared...and his ass would ad-lib
and toss the gags back at him every time.
Then it developed sort of teethlike...little raspy incurving hooks
and started eating.
He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it...
but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street...shouting out it wanted equal rights.
It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags.
Nobody loved it.
And it wanted to be kissed, same as any other mouth.
Finally, it talked all the time, day and night.
You could hear him for blocks, screaming at it to shut up... beating at it with his fists...and sticking candles up it, but...nothing did any good, and the asshole said to him..."It is you who will shut up in the end, not me...because we don't need youaround here anymore.
I can talk and eat and shit."
After that, he began waking up in the morning with transparent jelly...like a tadpole's tail all over his mouth.
He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands...like burning gasoline jelly and grow there.
So, finally, his mouth sealed over...and the whole head...would have amputated spontaneously except for the eyes, you dig?
That's the one thing that the asshole couldn't do was see. It needed the eyes.
Nerve connections were blocked...and infiltrated and atrophied.
So, the brain couldn't give orders anymore.
It was trapped inside the skull...sealed off.
For a while, you could see...the silent, helpless suffering
of the brain behind the eyes.
And then finally the brain must have died...because the eyes went out...and there was no more feeling in them than a crab's eye at the end of a stalk.


Sound familiar?

Last night I woke up with someone squeezing my hand. It was my other hand.

A dope thing probably.

It is not the intensity but the duration of pain that breaks the will to resist.

Though for some it's just too close to call.

The study of thinking machines teaches us more about the brain than we can learn by introspective methods. Western man is externalizing himself in the form of gadgets.

Tell me about yours, I'll tell you about mine.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:18 pm

The Onion

New Liver Can Really Handle Its Scotch


You know, for now.

Man Assured Friend’s Tap Water Always Looks Like That

Like piss, say.

Referee Can’t Help But Grin While Calling Penalty To Bring Back Huge Gain

If not flat out chortling.

Man Forced To Reverse-Engineer Point In Midst Of Meandering, Absentminded Rant

Especially given a wholly determined universe.

Boss Encourages Employees To Take Short Mental Breakdowns For Every Hour Of Work

A clear reference to Elon Musk, of course.

Woman Struggling To Contort Dreams, Ambitions Into Shape Of Dental Technician

Next up: your own struggles.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

Danny Embling: "People wonder how Hitler managed to get so many followers...it's never surprised me."
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:33 pm

Don DeLillo from White Noise

It was important for him to believe that he'd spent his life among people who kept missing the point.


Anyone here know why? I mean, besides me.

The family is the cradle of the world’s misinformation.

And, virtually, that's what we are, isn't it?

The power of the dead is that we think they see us all the time. The dead have a presence. Is there a level of energy composed solely of the dead?

You know, if you believe that sort of crap. Well, if it is crap.

We drove 22 miles into the country around Farmington. There were meadows and apple orchards. White fences trailed through the rolling fields. Soon the sign started appearing. THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED BARN IN AMERICA. We counted five signs before we reached the site. There were 40 cars and a tour bus in the makeshift lot. We walked along a cowpath to the slightly elevated spot set aside for viewing and photographing. All the people had cameras; some had tripods, telephoto lenses, filter kits. A man in a booth sold postcards and slides -- pictures of the barn taken from the elevated spot. We stood near a grove of trees and watched the photographers. Murray maintained a prolonged silence, occasionally scrawling some notes in a little book.
No one sees the barn, he said finally.
A long silence followed.
Once you've seen the signs about the barn, it becomes impossible to see the barn.
He fell silent once more. People with cameras left the elevated site, replaced by others.
We're not here to capture an image, we're here to maintain one. Every photograph reinforces the aura. Can you feel it, Jack? An accumulation of nameless energies.
There was an extended silence. The man in the booth sold postcards and slides.
Being here is a kind of spiritual surrender. We see only what the others see. The thousands who were here in the past, those who will come in the future. We've agreed to be part of a collective perception. It literally colors our vision. A religious experience in a way, like all tourism.
Another silence ensued.
They are taking pictures of taking pictures, he said.


Next up: THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED GOD IN AMERICA

When I read obituaries I always note the age of the deceased. Automatically I relate this figure to my own age. Four years to go, I think. Nine more years. Two years and I'm dead. The power of numbers is never more evident than when we use them to speculate on the time of our dying.

Actually, this is a real thing. Go ahead, get started: https://www.nytimes.com/section/obituaries

Fear is unnatural. Lightning and thunder are unnatural. Pain, death, reality, these are all unnatural. We can't bear these things as they are. We know too much. So we resort to repression, compromise and disguise. This is how we survive the universe. This is the natural language of the species.

Naturally.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:14 pm

The Onion

New Pediatric Guidelines Recommend Obese Children Compensate With Personality


Well, for those who have one anyway.

Black Man Unaware That Book He's Reading First Step Toward Eventually Being Assassinated By FBI

Next up: Northern European white man.

Trump, Biden, Pence, Probably Fucking Dan Quayle At This Point, And Classified Documents: What You Need To Know

Next up: classified documents found in Lincoln, Jefferson Memorials. There's no end to it.

Biden Impregnates Popular Musician In Effort To Boost Approval Numbers

You know the one.

Water From Splash Mountain Selling For Up To $1,000 On eBay After Ride Closes

No, actually, it's true!

Woman Mentally Scans Everything She Knows About Friend Before Launching Into Rant Against Healing Crystals

Ironically as it were?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

Danny Embling: "People wonder how Hitler managed to get so many followers...it's never surprised me."
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:54 pm

Eric Hoffer

Rudeness is a weak person's imitation of strength.


What, here?!

It is loneliness that makes the loudest noise. This is true of men as of dogs.

I've never been lonely a day in my life. True story.

Empathy alone stands apart from the continuous traffic between good and evil proceeding within us.

On the other hand, come on, what some empathize with as good, others revile.

Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and turns into a racket.

MAGA in a nutshell: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/27/tech ... l-ads.html

Nowhere at present is there such a measureless loathing of their country by educated people as in America.

Uh, "hear, hear!"?

Unless a man has the talents to make something of himself, freedom is an irksome burden. Of what avail is freedom to choose if the self be ineffectual? We join a mass movement to escape individual responsibility, or, in the words of the ardent young Nazi, ‘to be free from freedom.’ It was not sheer hypocrisy when the rank-and-file Nazis declared themselves not guilty of all the enormities they had committed. They considered themselves cheated and maligned when made to shoulder responsibility for obeying orders. Had they not joined the Nazi movement in order to be free from responsibility?

How about we file this one under, "if the shoe fits..."
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:28 pm

How about if you join the cause that says an unjust lawful order is no lawful order at all, and that the law was made for humans & not humans for the law?

Empathy is neutral, you’re right. And solitude is bliss when everything around you is unreal. Until it’s the right kind of unreal.

But you must model the unreality you wish to see. Still. It helps when there is at least one other you see it in. Even if just a glimpse.
If it doesn’t mean the good, beautiful, true end is to be and do self/us as other/them, & vice versa…then I don’t care what it means.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:31 pm

:lol:

No, seriously!
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:41 pm

Oh, heavens, no, of course not. What was I thinking?
If it doesn’t mean the good, beautiful, true end is to be and do self/us as other/them, & vice versa…then I don’t care what it means.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:06 pm

The Onion

Man Who’s Been In A Bunch Of Buildings Figures He’d Be A Pretty Good Architect


Next up: man who's been to a bunch of philosophy forums.

Area Man Thankful To Be Single During Golden Age Of Television

Explain this please.

‘I Don’t Know Who I Am Anymore, Little Buddy!’ Says Mother In Midst Of Nervous Breakdown

Of course: https://youtu.be/QAszapI0unE

Nation’s Panicked, Blood-Covered Citizens Demand You Give Them Just One Goddamn Second To Think

Coming to a nation near you.

Employee Offering Suggestion At Meeting Slowly Grows Quieter And Quieter Until Eventually Squeaking ‘I Don’t Know'

In other words, even if he does know.

Woman Getting All Defensive About Inherent Worth

Whatever that's worth.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

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