a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:06 am

Nature abhors a vacuum. Supernature, too.

If nobody hurt each other maybe we’d stop labeling interlocking like puzzle pieces weakness. Cord of three strands and what knot.

Big if.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:33 pm

Bart D. Ehrman

It should be noted that all four of these exalted roles—Jesus as messiah, as Lord, as Son of God, as Son of Man—imply, in one sense or another, that Jesus is God. In no sense, in this early period, is Jesus understood to be God the Father. He is not the One Almighty God. He is the one who has been elevated to a divine position and is God in a variety of senses.


:lol:
No, seriously.

...such human passions as sexual desire and lust were regularly deemed completely unsuitable for the God of Israel. Anger and wrath, yes; sexual love, no.

Of course that's still around.

Orthodoxy is my doxy and heterodoxy is your doxy.

Of course that's still around.

In spite of having no body they stand and move, think and talk; in short, it’s as if their naked souls were walking about clad in the semblance of their bodies.

Souls? You tell me.

In oral societies it is recognized that the telling of a story to a different audience or in a different context or for a different reason calls for a different version of the story. Stories are molded to the time and circumstance in which they are told.

The Bible: the ultimate telephone game?

The time when Christianity arose, with its exalted claims about Jesus, was the same time when the emperor cult had started to move into full swing, with its exalted claims about the emperor. Christians were calling Jesus God directly on the heels of the Romans calling the emperor God.

Too close to call?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:59 pm

The time when Christianity arose, with its exalted claims about Jesus, was the same time when the emperor cult had started to move into full swing, with its exalted claims about the emperor. Christians were calling Jesus God directly on the heels of the Romans calling the emperor God.

Too close to call?
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Render to Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and to God the things which are God’s.

To be sure, when he shows back up in the clouds to do battle in heaven… the “new” gods will be there, too.

Soooooooooooooooo close. In *the* temple close.

But there’s always one among the tools who “gets it” and … becomes a Moses, a Paul, an Elijah.

Dialectic. Synthesis. That’s how he do. ;)
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:48 pm

:lol:
No, seriously
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:05 pm

Existential Comics

The world becomes a lot more intelligible once you realize that more or less everyone is a big stupid idiot, including the people in charge, and yourself.


You know, if that works for you.

This 4th of July we should celebrate that which is best about America (being loud and obnoxious) while condemning that which is worst about America (that gross yellow cheese).

Maybe next 4th of July.

I'm starting to worry that the people who are impressed by those chatbots don't have sentience themselves, and are just walking around repeating things they've heard other people say.

Any chatbots here, Mr. Pinhead?

Man is born free, but everywhere is terminally online.

Apologies to Rousseau.

Breaking: The Supreme Court just ruled 6-3 that whether the set of all sets that are not members of themselves contains itself or not must be left up to the States.

Note to John Roberts: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=197983

What do politicians actually mean when they talk about "the American way of life"? Like...spending half your paycheck on rent...?

Any politicians here?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:57 pm

Brian Eno

Rationality is what we do to organize the world, to make it possible to predict. Art is the rehearsal for the inapplicability and failure of that process.


Yeah, I can go along with that.

The reason conservatives cohere and radicals fight: everyone agrees about fears, no one about visions.

Yeah, I can go along with that.

The smart thing in the art world is to have one good idea and never have another.

Or the dumb thing.

If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be.

Now that's bullshit of course.

The dominant theory coming out of Hollywood is that peoples' attention spans are getting shorter and shorter and they need more stimulation.

And certainly the dominant theory here of late.

The first Velvet Underground album only sold 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it formed a band.

Anyone here in one of them?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:14 pm

Doth

In honor of George Orwells birthday, remember that we don't have to wait for a dystopian future, we are living in it.


Some, reveling in it.

Stephen King couldn't write a horror story scarier than what is happening right now.

Mr. King, consider that a challenge.

Frankenstein was the doctor. The monster is you. It’s always been you.

Pick one: Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde

Sex is cool but have you ever made peace with the horror of being alive

Come again?

I’m a real person which is fucking devastating

You know, among other things.

Feelings are so dumb & embarrassing

Not unlike thoughts.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:34 pm

Steven Pinker

Though it isn't obvious from the bowdlerized versions in Walt Disney , the tales are filled with murder, infanticide, cannibalism, mutilation, and sexual abuse - grimm fairy tales indeed.


Don't tell the kids of course.

Free will is an idealization of human beings that makes the ethics game playable.

You know, if that's actually true.

As far as I’m concerned, whom is a word that was invented to make everyone sound like a butler.

Actually, that might be true.

Literate people should know how to think about grammar.

Who or whom for example.

Nothing is more responsible for the good old days than a bad memory.

No, really, mine were.

Good prose is never written by a committee.

Next up: a committee of pinheads.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:42 pm

Howard Zinn

How can you have a war on terrorism when war itself is terrorism?


Call it something else?

I'm worried that students will take their obedient place in society and look to become successful cogs in the wheel - let the wheel spin them around as it wants without taking a look at what they're doing. I'm concerned that students not become passive acceptors of the official doctrine that's handed down to them from the White House, the media, textbooks, teachers and preachers.

Believe it or not, some are still concerned about that.

Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.

Seig Heil to that.

Protest beyond the law is not a departure from democracy; it is absolutely essential to it.

And only they, not us, can take that too far.

History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it.

Basically, you're born a pinhead.

The challenge remains. On the other side are formidable forces: money, political power, the major media. On our side are the people of the world and a power greater than money or weapons: the truth.

:lol:
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby MagsJ » Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:02 pm

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Ironic..

Any idea of what’s going on here? ..anyone? https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 7&t=197733 ..are they one and the same, or now joined at the hip? :-s

Two (one?) more 'condition/s' being had? ..and why does the one on mind-bourne 'ignore' insist on keeping on talking to me? I wish she wouldn’t. [-o<
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:48 pm

Jan Mieszkowski

Philosophy: Can't understand this!
Economics: Can't afford this!
History: Can't remember this!
Politics: Can't touch this!


Let's put them in the right order.

Epistemology: I know what it is.
Ontology: I know what is is.
Aesthetics: I know what it should be.
Ethics: I know what is should be.


Next up: Bill and Monica.

"Everything in the world exists in order to end up in a book." Stéphane Mallarmé

The dictionmary for example.

"Clever people said fascism was impossible. Clever people have always made it easy for barbarians by being so stupid." Horkheimer & Adorno

Not unlike the pinheads here.

"But no one puts flowers
On a flower’s grave"
Tom Waits

"Bury the flower and lay the human on the grave. "
Paul Celan


Six of one, half dozen of the other?

"Of cause, so! And in effect, as?" James Joyce

Tell me we don't need a context here.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:21 pm

God

America just ain't what people pretend it used to be.


In fact, not even close.

Is there anything Americans can't open fire on?

Let's come up with one.

You are living in a simulation and the creature running the simulation has become an alcoholic.

Well, that explains it.

There are plenty of things people can do to help save life on Earth. Die, for example.

Good news: https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... hs-per-day

The last seven years were the seven hottest years on record, you fucking morons.

Never gets above 72 degrees in Heaven. Fahrenheit of course.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is six bastards with gavels.

Hint, hint.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:43 pm

Emile M. Cioran

I cannot contribute anything to this world because I only have one method: agony.


With any luck, theirs more than yours.

In every man sleeps a prophet, and when he wakes there is a little more evil in the world.

Or, sure, what some call good.

My mission is to see things as they are. Exactly contrary of a mission.

To some of us, this actually makes sense.

Truths begin by a conflict with the police - and end by calling them in.

You know, being pragmatic.

Far from diminishing the appetite for power, suffering exasperates it.

In a word: revenge.

We change ideas like neckties.

Let's pin down what that explains.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:20 pm

Banksy

I don't believe in anything. I'm just here for the violence.


That's still going around.

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

That sound you hear is Ayn Rand spinning in her grave.

I need someone to protect me from all the measures they take in order to protect me.

This can get tricky.

One Original Thought is worth 1000 Meaningless Quotes.

Anyone here ever had one?

Some people represent authority without ever possessing any of their own.

Ah, the pinheads in Trumpworld!

At this time of year it's easy to forget the true meaning of Christianity --- the lies, the corruption, the abuse.

Or, sure, all year round.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:34 pm

Julie Clark

Identity is a strange thing. Are we who we say we are, or do we become the person others see? Do they define us by what we choose to show them, or what they see despite our best attempts to conceal it?


It's actually even stranger than that. But don't get me started, right?

I’m not very good at forgiveness. Not many people are. But what I’ve learned in life is that in order for true forgiveness to occur, something has to die first.

Some might not go that far.

The world was filled with people who carried secrets. No one was who they seemed to be.

Any actual exceptions here?

You might be shoulder to shoulder with someone living their last moments as themselves and never know it.

And then those living their last moments period.

...sometimes the death of a dream can finally set you free.

Nope, nothing like that yet.

That was the funny thing about regret. It lived inside of you, shrinking down until you could almost believe it had vanished, only to have it spring up, fully formed, called forward by people who meant you no harm.

And of course the people that do mean you harm.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:59 pm

The Onion

Shinzo Abe Assassination Prompts Americans To Wonder What It Would Be Like If Someone Got Shot In U.S.


That'll never happen, right?

Local Mom Wants Just One Nice Vacation Photo Where Family Isn’t Running From Gunfire

That ever happen to you?

Luxury Hotel Maid Folds Mattress Into Swan

Next up: the pillows.

Worker Accidentally Paid 300 Times His Salary Disappears With Money

Accidently, of course.

Man Pulling On Loose Hangnail Slowly Unravels Skin From Entire Body

Doesn't even seem possible, does it?

Man Figures He Has 2 More Bites Of Roommate’s Leftovers Before It Noticeable

I guess we'll never know.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:25 pm

Edward Abbey

We know so very little about this strange planet we live on, this haunted world where all answers lead only to more mystery.


If only all the way to the grave. Then God explains it.

Anyone not paranoid in this world must be crazy...

Yo, ecmandu! You're up!!

Each thing in its way, when true to its own character, is equally beautiful.

Sieg Heil?

The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages --- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already.

Tee-hee?

If it's knowledge and wisdom you want, then seek out the company of those who do real work for an honest purpose.

Hmm, so much for us philosophers?

...the only reason I don't believe in happy endings is because I don't believe in endings.

Actually, I do believe in them myself. Not many happy though.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:43 pm

tiny nietzsche

live, laugh, love, wither, and die


For some, in that exact order.

she's a 10 but is condemned to be free

On the other hand, aren't we all?

what idiot called it west world instead of breaking bots?

More to the point, I dare someone even to attempt to explain the plot.

the devil went down to georgia for some quaaludes

Well, the South is God's country.

manifest your destiny some place else

Of course this didn't work for, among others, native Americans.

it will be nice when they fire up the hadron collider tomorrow and get us out of this shitty thread and into a cool new plane of existence where dogs talk or something

Any updates on that?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:16 pm

Joe Abercrombie

Some people, Orso supposed, can never forgive being forgiven.


Nor should they.

...a look of fury, a look of pain, a look of hatred you can trust. A smile can hide anything.

Now that is certainly true.

...sad to say, not all men that die are killed by me.

My guess: not even close.

Does the Devil know he is a Devil?

My guess: probably.

One must keep a close eye on the current definitions. To be unpatriotic would be terrible. To be patriotic in the wrong way could be fatal.

Next up: Define definitions.

Maybe you should try sticking to one side or the other.
Why ever would anyone do that? Cosca raised his flask, took a sip and smacked his lips in satisfaction. It’s a war. There is no right side.


And thus was born the military industrial complex.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:44 pm

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The irony is.. that you don’t have any. :lol:

You are too one-dimensional, for it..
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:49 pm

MagsJ wrote:Ironic..

Any idea of what’s going on here? ..anyone? https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 7&t=197733 ..are they one and the same, or now joined at the hip? :-s

Two (one?) more 'condition/s' being had? ..and why does the one on mind-bourne 'ignore' insist on keeping on talking to me? I wish she wouldn’t. [-o<

Nothing, from the peanut gallery.. as per.

Madame! in more ways, than one.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:27 pm

Three. In One.

I think…? Unclear.
If we make the universe, who made us? hm. must’ve had help

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:52 pm

Philosophy Tweets

"Which death is preferable to every other? The unexpected." Julius Caesar


On the other hand, how unexpected?

"He who fights, can lose. He who doesn't fight, has already lost." Bertolt Brecht

Next up: he who fights, can die.

“A sad soul can kill you quicker, far quicker, than a germ.” John Steinbeck

Next up: a really, really cynical soul.

“Why are there beings at all, instead of nothing?” Martin Heidegger

More to point, why are there Nazis instead of nothing?

“He who thinks great thoughts, often makes great errors.” Martin Heidegger

Historically, for example.

"The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them." Ernest Hemingway

My guess: for better or worse.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:26 pm

Thomas Ligotti

Rigorously considered, our only natural birthright is to die.


So get to it.

Schopenhauer’s will-to-live, commendable as it may seem as a hypothesis, is too overwrought in the proving to be anything more than another intellectual labyrinth for specialists in perplexity.

See, I told you.

To wail adamantly that a god exists is to kill that god or turn it into a plastic idol. To say that a god might exist is to vivify it with the meaning of mystery.

I sort of do that, right?

James was a rare philosopher in that he put no faith in logic. And he was doubtless wise to adopt that stance, since the fortunes of those who attempt to defend their opinions with logic are not enviable.

Especially in, for example, the is/ought world.

Whether you think consciousness to be a benefit or a horror, this is only what you think—and nothing else. But even though you cannot demonstrate the truth of what you think, you can at least put it on show and see what the audience thinks.

Basically, what "I" do here.

I had fled that place in hopes of finding another that had been founded upon different principles and operated under a different order. But there was no such place, or none that I could find. It seemed the only course of action left to me was to make an end of it.

You know, being optimistic.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:12 pm

Go back to Start. We all want. Even the coldest among us. Nothing passing satisfies. Why? Why is the Why? in all of us? Why is the Maybe/Mystery in all of us? Lean into that… with fear and trembling. Puts to death all crystallized fear. (Leave.) Eventually. If you keep leaning, keep remembering. (Stay.)
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