WendyDarling wrote:I'm not too familiar with memes but memes are a new buzzword. Is a meme as effective or as meme-like when it is accompanied by other images, pictures? All the memes I've seen as of late have been a combo of words and images. And are images actual language?
Aegean wrote:WendyDarling wrote:I'm not too familiar with memes but memes are a new buzzword. Is a meme as effective or as meme-like when it is accompanied by other images, pictures? All the memes I've seen as of late have been a combo of words and images. And are images actual language?
Yes, symbols and language, which are symbols, are all part of semiotics.
Semiotics are representations of abstractions. They are art, or a form of technology.
An externalization of the esoteric, via a medium.
Vocalizations using patterned sequences uses the medium of atmosphere. A rudimentary form of semiotics many species possess.
Aegean wrote:Yes...memes as extensions of genes.
Genes use DNA, memes use language, semiotics.
As there is a selfish gene, there is a selfish meme.
As there are organisms, there are superorganisms.
Just as genes synthesize and reproduce, so too memes synthesize and reproduce.
Just as there are compatible and incompatible genes; there are compatible and incompatible memes.
Kriswest wrote:Aegean wrote:Yes...memes as extensions of genes.
Genes use DNA, memes use language, semiotics.
As there is a selfish gene, there is a selfish meme.
As there are organisms, there are superorganisms.
Just as genes synthesize and reproduce, so too memes synthesize and reproduce.
Just as there are compatible and incompatible genes; there are compatible and incompatible memes.
Interesting. When the first hominids/apes showed facial expression and sounds to express emotion, others adopted them. Which they taught to the next generation and so on until the memes became genetic. One does not have to teach an infant to laugh or cry nor smile or frown. In lower order of animals the meme to gene transfer would quite likely take far far less generations due to simpler minds.
In future generations it would be interesting to see if new evolve in infants especially as more and more humans are interbreeding with different ethnicities and cultures. What do you think?
Aegean wrote:Breeding dogs for specific traits, requires some degree of in-breeding.
In nature this is done through culling. But environments change making new traits advantageous to the ones that were in previous environments.
More stressful environments promote different traits; less stressful environment let them atrophy and promote other traits.
Humans can produce their own environment, contrary to natural ones. This makes the traits that were fit in nature, be useless or even detrimental to the fitness in the human environment.
Genes Memes
Ierrellus wrote:If we are One, Other is an illusion.
If we are One, Other is an illusion.
promethean75 wrote:If we are One, Other is an illusion.
what the hell are you reading these days, man?
if you keep saying profound shit like this you're going to force me to sell all my stuff and join a commune of avant garde artists in vermont.
promethean75 wrote:If we are One, Other is an illusion.
what the hell are you reading these days, man?
promethean75 wrote:If we are One, Other is an illusion.
what the hell are you reading these days, man?
if you keep saying profound shit like this you're going to force me to sell all my stuff and join a commune of avant garde artists in vermont.
Ierrellus wrote:promethean75 wrote:If we are One, Other is an illusion.
what the hell are you reading these days, man?
if you keep saying profound shit like this you're going to force me to sell all my stuff and join a commune of avant garde artists in vermont.
Dowd's "Thank God For Evolution."
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