Karpel Tunnel wrote:Ahhhh, you can see some people are not the sex they were born with. Hard for the physicalists to deal with, but then they rule out many things, like astrology, say.
Well, of course you don't want to do it. You're not like them in that way. Of course there are people who are simply nuts, but they do try to weed those people out. Imagine what kind of drive it would take to want to go through the hormone treatments, psychiatric visits, those, yes, horrible operations. Just consider the possibility that they actually will feel better with those changes and that they may very well reflect something we cannot currently demonstrate via science.Fixed Cross wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:Ahhhh, you can see some people are not the sex they were born with. Hard for the physicalists to deal with, but then they rule out many things, like astrology, say.
It is REEUWLY. hard to imagine for me to want to just... fucking, do that shit to myself.
AAAH
what.
I mean its another person but its still not cool.
Also concentration camps aren't cool.
Hitler believe in astrology so there ya go!
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Well, of course you don't want to do it. You're not like them in that way. Of course there are people who are simply nuts, but they do try to weed those people out. Imagine what kind of drive it would take to want to go through the hormone treatments, psychiatric visits, those, yes, horrible operations. Just consider the possibility that they actually will feel better with those changes and that they may very well reflect something we cannot currently demonstrate via science.Fixed Cross wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:Ahhhh, you can see some people are not the sex they were born with. Hard for the physicalists to deal with, but then they rule out many things, like astrology, say.
It is REEUWLY. hard to imagine for me to want to just... fucking, do that shit to myself.
AAAH
what.
I mean its another person but its still not cool.
Also concentration camps aren't cool.
Hitler believe in astrology so there ya go!
Pandora wrote:A transgender person is living in denial. And it’s a terrible way to live. He will always be in dissonance with his own body.
In regards to children, if parents peddle such ambiguity to kids, going through adolescence will be even more confusing for these children. They are not just going counter so called rigid and fascist society, but counter nature itself. And it’s not free will but denial, calling itself free will, because you cannot escape yourself, except for suicide (in its various forms). And that is what is metaphorically happening. Self mutilation and suicide.
How long can this self destructive charade go on? Indefinitely? I don’t think so.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4sPj8HhbwHs
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qV8b8hsQups
(The message of the movement is that you are a “birth defect” in your natural form). Maybe the end goal is population control but it’s done through gaslighting, and further detaching those who are already detached and modernized, a new generation. What disturbs me is when these also become tree huggers and environmentalists. They don’t trust society but they “trust” nature. Denying their own nature but also wanting to reattach themselves to all that is natural, but in their own way. To me this is blatant hypocrisy. How is it free will if not just a roundabout way of having a free will to commit suicide? The question then also becomes if it even comes from the person himself or is suggested from outside, which makes it murder, or even genocide. Under guise of free will, of course. You have a free will to off yourself. Please do it, encourage it, and dont let anyone stop you. This is your “free will”. Like a free will to jump in front of a firing squad.
So, you post something in a philosophy discussion forum. Then someone, not impolitely disagrees with you, and you want me to leave you alone. You could have a private conversation with Pandora.Fixed Cross wrote:
There is a ton of nonsense that people consider. I strongly encourage you to keep considering this particular bit of nonsense. But leave me alone, yeah?![]()
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Im all with Pandora here.
Yes. If people are as sick as to want to cut themselves up, then maybe it can be ok under some circumstances to allow it, but to encourage it, and to give special status to such mut(il)ants --- that is truly not sound.
Fixed Cross wrote:There is a theory postulated by Joseph Chambers a.k.a. Parodites, which configures into the implications of VO and wonderfully explicates these in terms I could never have divined - the interaction of the pure differences that are known to the value philosopher as self-valuings is not itself directly ontic or fixed, rather it is the perpetual conditioning of the self-valuings to each other without reconciling or reducing. It is the friction, essentially, who itself becomes the spirit, the movement, the thing that is in between al the dead things and embeds life and other phenomena.
This insight scales. We can also take the biological necessities of the sexes as the relatively ontic state and that which happens between them as the Excessus, a kind of author of possibility wherein things that may not comply with the root-laws take place, because they are temporal fleeting, of no consequence to the realm governed by these laws; they are ont top of it. In this sense the transgender is a "Uebermensch" - likely not one to Nietzsches tastes, but nonetheless it is skating that exists as a virtue of man having exhausted himself and some specimens not contending themselves with the state of affairs as biology prescribes.
Im not writing this for 1001, but because Ive now actually had the pleasure of acquainting a transgender person - a man who has become in some ways a woman - and this is a hell of a good guy, simply not a woman, sorry, but very cool in all his trying to be. I can see this person is happy with his change and being exceptionally productive in civilization because some ancient sex-hangup has been resolved. His sex is truly a private issue now, not belonging to nature but to his own will, which has pretty much set itself free by this act.
Weird. But I am glad, as it provides a lot of hope in fact for civilization that transgenderism can be a symptom of a new sort of life breathing into the will. People aren't as selfish anymore to simply want to breed, they actually want to create. Surely I have the pleasure of still being selfish - I now see this conservative drive to be what I was born as, as my personal attachment. Thats very cool. I don't belong to anyone either. Just to my choice of being myself.
I must seriously note that none of this is based on anything Chambers might have written. His philosophy orients fruitfully on the (Daemonicism) (?) between the sexes. It is simply the case that this theory reveals all sorts of phenomena in contexts of laws that are actually predictive.
Fixed Cross wrote:Yes. If people are as sick as to want to cut themselves up, then maybe it can be ok under some circumstances to allow it, but to encourage it, and to give special status to such mut(il)ants --- that is truly not sound.
Yes, baby, please yes don't you want that?? Don't you want to make mommy happy and have her cut you up?? Yes baby, mommy loves you shall we make a doctors appointment?
Genocide is a good term to use here.
But if someone just wants it for himherself, and feels no choice, well, who am I to stand in the way. I don't judge the act itself. I condemn with all my heart and conscience the practice of encouraging this for other people.
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