septimus wrote:
Pezer wrote:WW_II_Angry, do you think you could post a link to the posts that are going to be refered to in the book?
WW_III_ANGRY wrote:Pezer wrote:WW_II_Angry, do you think you could post a link to the posts that are going to be refered to in the book?
Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. This is mainly memoirs of my personal experience, most of which those posts would be in this thread.
Pezer wrote:I just got done reading this whole thread, and I am a bit in shock. A lot of clarity by most people, but espacially the one who theoretically should have least (WW_III_Angry).
I am now really looking forward to the book, but with a kind of forboding, like when I pick up a Nietzsche book (though the comparison may seem absurd).
Or maybe I am just a little scared that I might identify with some of the things there.
Anyway, see you after the jump.
Ierrellus wrote:My memory is not too good nowadays and my computer suffers from the same senility. Did you give the title of your E-book and name of author? I wan't to buy hard copy--something I can hold and peruse. Is that possible? I'm fascinated by what I've read and firmly believe that such books, first-hand experience, are needed. I think your work is marketable.
. -----lets go back to "authority" . Splits come from the integration of authority whether it be parental or societal. Preoccupation with a toner for a philosopher is more than just a minor inconvenience. Its shows a break, (and there are breaks even in depressive episodes) the by now mute question that can be raised is -can philosophy transcend the cognitive-affective break? And as a consequence become a beacon to others, rather than becoming an Avatar?simonsays wrote:I did not mean to make such an accusation. It's just that I have met people who have had psychotic experiences and many don't remember the details, specially what happened during the episode. Perhaps you gathered this info partly based on what doctors said, police/hospital records, family recollections, and checked it against your own memory of the event.
You do not have to tell me your diagnosis either and perhaps that was an intrusive question and I apologize. The only reason I asked that, is I glanced through the document and thought I may have missed it. Also, that some psychotic episodes are only drug related, while others (schizophrenia, bipolar) can occur on a regular basis and significantly influence the quality of life. I have read some of your posts and I find it difficult to imagine you were that same person who went through so much: you come across as very intelligent, and like you have your shit together better than most "healthy" people. Kudos to you!
. I am in. Similar situation except my madness" is a generational one, and it has elements of the Jewish holocaust, never having americanized, lost privilege, all leading to split with what I used to (and still at times see) as a disprrivilaged situation. But depth psychology (jung) has helped, and now the suicide of my son and a posthumous debt to publish him (e publishing) has become a priority. But this new break for me, and I am using this in both the literal and figurative sense, is problematic, since I try not to see this seeming necessity to publish as an ego enhanced , and have nothing really ready, but something may eventually come of it.0belafekete0 wrote:. -----lets go back to "authority" . Splits come from the integration of authority whether it be parental or societal. Preoccupation with a toner for a philosopher is more than just a minor inconvenience. Its shows a break, (and there are breaks even in depressive episodes) the by now mute question that can be raised is -can philosophy transcend the cognitive-affective break? And as a consequence become a beacon to others, rather than becoming an Avatar?simonsays wrote:I did not mean to make such an accusation. It's just that I have met people who have had psychotic experiences and many don't remember the details, specially what happened during the episode. Perhaps you gathered this info partly based on what doctors said, police/hospital records, family recollections, and checked it against your own memory of the event.
You do not have to tell me your diagnosis either and perhaps that was an intrusive question and I apologize. The only reason I asked that, is I glanced through the document and thought I may have missed it. Also, that some psychotic episodes are only drug related, while others (schizophrenia, bipolar) can occur on a regular basis and significantly influence the quality of life. I have read some of your posts and I find it difficult to imagine you were that same person who went through so much: you come across as very intelligent, and like you have your shit together better than most "healthy" people. Kudos to you!
0belafekete0 wrote:. -----lets go back to "authority" . Splits come from the integration of authority whether it be parental or societal. Preoccupation with a toner for a philosopher is more than just a minor inconvenience. Its shows a break, (and there are breaks even in depressive episodes) the by now mute question that can be raised is -can philosophy transcend the cognitive-affective break? And as a consequence become a beacon to others, rather than becoming an Avatar?simonsays wrote:I did not mean to make such an accusation. It's just that I have met people who have had psychotic experiences and many don't remember the details, specially what happened during the episode. Perhaps you gathered this info partly based on what doctors said, police/hospital records, family recollections, and checked it against your own memory of the event.
You do not have to tell me your diagnosis either and perhaps that was an intrusive question and I apologize. The only reason I asked that, is I glanced through the document and thought I may have missed it. Also, that some psychotic episodes are only drug related, while others (schizophrenia, bipolar) can occur on a regular basis and significantly influence the quality of life. I have read some of your posts and I find it difficult to imagine you were that same person who went through so much: you come across as very intelligent, and like you have your shit together better than most "healthy" people. Kudos to you!
0belafekete0 wrote:. I am in. Similar situation except my madness" is a generational one, and it has elements of the Jewish holocaust, never having americanized, lost privilege, all leading to split with what I used to (and still at times see) as a disprrivilaged situation. But depth psychology (jung) has helped, and now the suicide of my son and a posthumous debt to publish him (e publishing) has become a priority. But this new break for me, and I am using this in both the literal and figurative sense, is problematic, since I try not to see this seeming necessity to publish as an ego enhanced , and have nothing really ready, but something may eventually come of it.0belafekete0 wrote:. -----lets go back to "authority" . Splits come from the integration of authority whether it be parental or societal. Preoccupation with a toner for a philosopher is more than just a minor inconvenience. Its shows a break, (and there are breaks even in depressive episodes) the by now mute question that can be raised is -can philosophy transcend the cognitive-affective break? And as a consequence become a beacon to others, rather than becoming an Avatar?simonsays wrote:I did not mean to make such an accusation. It's just that I have met people who have had psychotic experiences and many don't remember the details, specially what happened during the episode. Perhaps you gathered this info partly based on what doctors said, police/hospital records, family recollections, and checked it against your own memory of the event.
You do not have to tell me your diagnosis either and perhaps that was an intrusive question and I apologize. The only reason I asked that, is I glanced through the document and thought I may have missed it. Also, that some psychotic episodes are only drug related, while others (schizophrenia, bipolar) can occur on a regular basis and significantly influence the quality of life. I have read some of your posts and I find it difficult to imagine you were that same person who went through so much: you come across as very intelligent, and like you have your shit together better than most "healthy" people. Kudos to you!
precious007 wrote:Quite long, but I just bookmarked it.
So is it bipolar I or II, or schizophrenia?
Ichthus wrote:Read the sample. Were you drawn to Nietzsche before or after psychosis? Needs proof-reading. I do that.
I also went through something similar in 2005. Still have the fraction of it that I managed to write about, but reading it is embarrassing. I was such a deluded idiot long before my thoughts ran out of control. I agree that at the height of the episode(s), only someone totally in synch w the individual will ever bring them back. That isn't to say that there is no other way back. Just that if they are private with their mental torments, no human can help. Helps to have good reasoning skills prior to the psychosis. Psychosis is one of those things there is just no way to prevent until you actually experience it. You have to know how to anticipate and put a stop to the chain-reaction of a cancerous misconnecting of dots. Like learning anything else--you aren't born jumping rope, riding a bike, or telling your thoughts where to get off when they have begun running amok. Most people have a problem getting their thoughts going. Psychosis is quite an opposite problem.
But it is true that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
I've always been curious and need to research what happened to Nietzsche between the time he lost control and his death. Did it make him stronger before he died, or did he never make it back?
jabs wrote:I tried to access the link, but I am not allowed. I am Bipolar-I, had only one episode of full-blown mania. Extreme hallucinations due to anxiety, but no psychosis.
fuse wrote:WW_III_ANGRY wrote:And how's the nihilism working out for you today? Progressing any?
Yeah, slowly, thanks for asking.
I would still say I'm a nihilist, but there's no reason nihilism has to or should define me forever. What I am doing now is trying to get my life moving again (as opposed to being in stagnation like it has been). As things progress, I'll be bringing into focus my values. It will take time, but over a period of years my values will solidify and I won't feel much like a nihilist anymore. My values will remain more or less consistent and I will begin to unconsciously think of them as objective or certain. They won't be objective or certain, but they will be as good as..
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