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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:56 pm

Better resolve than accept a popular notion .
Vampira says ignorance may be bliss, and she got the message of what philosophy in the ruins should be all about.

Well, then while there, read about it in the papers, and never go down ( there with regret)

So now what? Well You cam always start.
A vignette, like some memoir, until they shut down the presses.

Yeah. But that won't look so good.
True. But in any case, maybe some one will come along. Maybe. Someone else who is unafraid of the dark.

I dunno. It's worth a try.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:13 pm

Fiction and fact, and some overlap



House of Corvinus

Alexander Corvinus (Hungarian: Corvin Sándor) is the first true Immortal in the Underworld movies and is the father of Markus Corvinus and William Corvinus, as well as an ancestor of Michael Corvin, who is a descendant of Corvinus's third and mortal son. He is portrayed by Derek Jacobi.

Alexander was a Hungarian warlord who lived in the early 5th century. He ascended to power just in time to watch his village ravaged by an unknown plague. Alexander was the only survivor of the plague. His body was able to adapt the virus, and, likewise be adapted by it, and through some unknown means consequently made him immortal. The plague that wiped-out his home town and mutated with Alexander may have been a part of the first wave of the Bubonic plague to hit Europe (otherwise known as the "Plague of Justinian"), although the timing for the Justinian Plague is off by a nigh-century (although archaeo-pathological evidence reveals that Bubonic plague had been around as early as the Bronze Age), and that Bubonic plague is bacterial rather than viral.

Years later, with his wife Helena, he fathered three children, two of whom inherited the immortal strain in its active form: twin brothers Markus and William. Markus was bitten by a bat and metamorphosed into the first vampire. William was bitten by a wolf and metamorphosed into the first werewolf. William became a savage beast that was unable to ever assume human form again, something Alexander attributed to his uncontrollable rage. Only Alexander's third son (who inherited the immortal strain in its inactive form) remained a human. Markus and his vampire army (led by Viktor) captured his brother William and locked him in a secret prison for over 800 years, the location of which was kept from Markus. When Viktor ordered his vampire daughter executed for having been impregnated by a Lycan, he inadvertently touched off a centuries-long war between lycans and vampires. Alexander chose to keep the war contained from ever spilling into the mortal realm. He hired humans to clean up after the battles and to help conceal their existence from the normal human population. Alexander states in Underworld: Evolution that he believes he and his sons were oddities of nature, and that the world is not theirs to conquer but belongs to the humans. Despite not displaying any powers of his own, he is referred to by Selene as the strongest of the immortals and the only one capable of killing his sons, indicating he does possess some abilities.

At the time of Underworld: Evolution, Alexander was operating under the alias of Lorenz Macaro, and ran his operation from the ship "Sancta Helena". He meets with Selene and Michael, who ask for his help to destroy Markus and William. He reveals that no matter what they have become, he cannot help Selene and Michael against them, for they are his own sons. Alexander has come into possession of Viktor's body (and Viktor's half of the prison key that holds William Corvinus). Alexander is visited by Markus, who impales him with his wing talon, takes Viktor's half of the key and leaves him for dead.

As Alexander lays dying, he calls Selene to him to drink some of his pure immortal blood. The blood, he tells her, will make her "the future" and is her only hope of being strong enough to destroy the Corvinus brothers. After Selene and Michael leave, Alexander detonates a case of explosives on his ship, obliterating it in the harbor, along with killing himself. His blood enhances Selene's powers, making her equal to the Hybrid Markus in strength and giving her an immunity to sunlight, ultimately allowing her to defeat him. She tells Detective Sebastian in Underworld: Awakening about getting her sunlight immunity from Alexander, referring to it as a gift from him. Detective Sebastian displays knowledge of who Alexander is when Selene brings him up.

Main article: Michael Corvin
Michael Corvin (in Hungarian: Corvin Mihály), bitten first by Lucian and later by Selene, metamorphosed into a Lycan/Vampire Hybrid. Being a hybrid, Michael can regenerate cells and muscle tissues as well as internal organs even when he is dead, as long as his body stays intact. (Michael came back to life when Markus killed him by impaling him through the chest). Counting the unborn child of Lucian and Sonja, Michael is the second Lycan/Vampire Hybrid. In Underworld: Awakening, he is labeled "Subject 0". He is portrayed by Scott Speedman and appears in a cameo in Underworld: Blood Wars by Trent Garrett.

Eve is the 12/14-year-old hybrid daughter of Selene and Michael Corvin, through whom she is a descendant of Alexander Corvinus. In Underworld: Awakening, she tells Selene that her name is Subject 2. She was born without her parents' knowledge during their 12/15-year captivity in Antigen; while a watch guard on patrol at the pier that Selene and Michael tried to leave the city in answers that the pier has been closed for at least about 12 years, interviews from the set, and by one of the film's Producers in bonus material on the DVD and Blu-ray, confirmed that upwards of 15 years had passed from the time that Selene and Michael were captured, to the time that Eve breaks Selene out of cryo-suspension.[12]

The scientists in the facility told her that her mother was dead and never heard anything about her father. After her escape, Selene discovers Eve and learns that she is her daughter, realizing that she had been pregnant at the time of her capture, and given birth to Eve all during her unconscious state. Being pursued by both humans and Lycans because of her unique origin, and despite Selene's attempts to shield her from the dangers around them, she is recaptured by Antigen, but is rescued by Selene and Detective Sebastian during an attack on the facility. Eve joins the fight herself and kills Doctor Lane. In Underworld: Blood Wars, Eve has gone away to prevent any vampires and lycans from getting her blood. As a result, Selene does not know where Eve is. However, she appears in the very last shot of the film, revealing that she has been following her mother; as her mother is now one of the Vampire Nation's new Elders, this makes Eve an heir to her mother and to the Vampire Nation. Eve is portrayed by India Eisley.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm

Now the real question revolves around the relationship of Saint Germain, Elizabeth Bathory, Sandor Corvin and the Holy Roman emperor. I may be able to trace this, by and by , but not promising anything to others or even myself........

The object of this to those who understand THE HUNGER, is. simply to avoid the delirium of getting on to the seminal interpretation of deprivation of eschatological, seminal interpretation of 'real facts pertaining within values held within specific contexts.

This may appear to close bounderies to some, and in this vain, occasional references may be made.

The followup, with tome allowing, is a study which follows in some sensible progression, the implications of the Treaty of Trianon, at the closed of WWI, and perhaps some unhappy consequences as they imported the causal references tying the assassination of the objectives that the Austrian monarchy enertained, which tied directly into the supposed mind and heart of the Austrian born Adolph furrier.

A further stretch may flow to Trump's simulated send of such a continuing trend, for which he simply was unprepared for, except by tie in by a prescription of erotically fed back narcissism.

That he didn't cover the whole gamut which a Nietzcisement he partook in, is not surprising, for his chastisement by Wagner of not being able to overcome the narcissistic feedback between the self and other in terms prescribed literally, ( seminallt, indicating Wagners displeasure of Nietzche not being to overcome that narcissistic bind.

All for art's sake, as if Gotterdamerung was his answer to Narcissus, as curtailing Parcifal's objective hope to suggest a final stroke to solve the 'naturalistic fallacy'

The escotological unearthing of 'facts' on my part, without much preparation, is daunting, to say the least, but it is, as if drawn by my dream of MPolanyi, which I really believe inbedded in a dream, but a never forgotten shadow of a real promise, to seek some answers.

That nouns believes this absolute necessity, then, comes with no surprise.
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Re: Vampire - Eszterhazy

Postby Meno_ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:27 am

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Esterházy family



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Esterházy: traitor or hero?
SCULPTURES continue to demonstrate their power in Slovakia. After the equestrian statue of Svätopluk in front of Bratislava Castle divided society a year ago, a similar situation, though on a smaller scale, has now occurred in Slovakia’s second city, Košice, where a bust of a controversial interwar politician has laid bare the division between Slovaks and Hungarians – and not only between locals in Košice, but also among historians and politicians.

Esterházy's bust was unveiled in Košice on March
SCULPTURES continue to demonstrate their power in Slovakia. After the equestrian statue of Svätopluk in front of Bratislava Castle divided society a year ago, a similar situation, though on a smaller scale, has now occurred in Slovakia’s second city, Košice, where a bust of a controversial interwar politician has laid bare the division between Slovaks and Hungarians – and not only between locals in Košice, but also among historians and politicians.

An argument that ended in a brawl marked the ceremonial unveiling of the bust of János Esterházy, a local ethnic Hungarian politician active mainly in the 1930s, at a private lot on the main street of the city. The unveiling was organised by the Košice Civic Club on March 14, which is the anniversary of the emergence of the Nazi-allied 1st Slovak Republic in 1939. A few ethnic Slovak Košice inhabitants turned out to protest against the bust.

Peter Kalmus, a local artist who was active in the November 1989 revolution, presented what he called a peaceful protest. After the bust was unveiled, he attempted to cover it with toilet paper but was stopped by two young men who attacked him and threw him to the ground. The police detained the pair and later accused them of promoting extremism based on the right-wing extremist symbols they were reported to have been wearing.

Who was Esterházy

Count János Esterházy was an ethnic Hungarian politician in interwar Czechoslovakia. He served as a member of the Czechoslovak parliament, and later, after Slovakia broke away from Czechoslovakia, he sat in the Slovak parliament. Historical facts about his personality have been blurred by the divergent portrayal of his role by Slovaks and Hungarians: while the former have tended to think of him as a traitor, the latter have instead tended to regard him as something of a hero.

Historians highlight his attitude in the vote on the so-called deportation law, which the Slovak parliament passed in May 1942 to permit the deportation of the country’s Jewish citizens to Nazi concentration camps. Esterházy was the only MP not to vote in favour of the law, arguing that he could not support a law which granted the right to the majority to expatriate a minority. His stance won him heavy criticism from the Slovak press at the time.

After the war, Esterházy was convicted by a Soviet court, and later also by a court in communist Czechoslovakia. The Czechoslovak court first sentenced him to death, later commuting that to life imprisonment. Esterházy died in a prison hospital in 1957.

Traitor or hero?

Opinions on Esterházy are divided even within the Slovak community, as well as within the Hungarian community. Most Slovak historians claim he was a traitor to the Czechoslovak state, though some say that this argument lacks historical foundation.

“János Esterházy, as a minority politician, was continuously trying to break up the Czechoslovak state and its democratic regime,” the Historical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences (SAV) wrote in a statement about Esterházy, adding that in pursuit of that aim, Esterházy secretly collaborated with Hungary as well as with Nazi Germany.

Historian Milan Zemko from SAV’s Historical Institute said that Esterházy took an active part in the preparation of the Vienna Arbitration, which stripped Czechoslovakia of its eastern and some southern parts, including the city of Košice, and handed them to Hungary.

“Slovaks can hardly see this in a positive light,” Zemko told The Slovak Spectator. “Hungarians, however, see it as a contribution to the re-unification of magyarság, the Hungarian community in the Carpathian Basin, and thus as positive for the Hungarian nation.”

István Kollai, a historian and director of the Hungarian Cultural Institute in Bratislava, stressed that Hungarians who found themselves living in Czechoslovakia after the Trianon Treaty had determined the borders of the new post-Austro-Hungary nation-states were not happy with their position and, although most of them did not support the potential change of borders actively and were not against Czechoslovak statehood, they certainly welcomed the change of borders which followed the Vienna Arbitration.

“Hungarians tried to accept their actual situation but it’s true that they were happy to see the kind of changes that were happening in their favour,” Kollai told The Slovak Spectator, adding that this is exactly where János Esterházy serves as an example which could help Slovaks to understand the position of Hungarians in Czechoslovakia at that time.

“He was not a war criminal,” Kollai said, explaining that a war criminal is someone who violates universal human rights, which in his view Esterházy did not. Esterházy opposed the Czechoslovak state-building process and most Slovak nation-building ideas too, but although Slovak and Czech state and nation-building ambitions were legitimate, opposing them does not equate to opposing universal human rights, Kollai said.

Principles or tactics?

The debate about Esterházy, however, covers more controversial territory. He was a representative of the Nazi-allied Slovak state and a self-proclaimed anti-Semite, but this was to some extent balanced by his clear opposition to the 1942 deportation law and the evidence of Jews whom he saved by helping them to escape Slovakia.

Historians from SAV say that despite his vote on the deportation law, he had supported all the previous anti-Jewish laws in parliament and himself stated that he was “always on the anti-Jewish side since childhood and will always remain there”.

“He declared himself an anti-Semite, but that doesn’t mean he completely identified with the intentions and policies of Adolf Hitler,” Zemko said. “More likely, he hoped that Hitler’s revisionist and expansionist politics will be useful in favour of Hungarian revisionism too.”

Claims of anti-Semitism can burden historical personalities of that time, Kollai said, but in the case of Esterházy his anti-Semitism is not a strong issue, “because nobody can be sure whether it was genuine or only tactical behaviour”.

Kollai claims that there are Jewish survivors who were saved by the Esterházy family, and some of them even wrote letters to the Yad Vashem Museum in Israel to nominate Esterházy for the “Righteous Among the Nations” title.

Zemko admits that Esterházy might have helped some Jews who were threatened by the wartime regime in Slovakia but says “he was far from being alone in this praiseworthy activity in Slovakia, even among politicians”.

Bust or rehabilitation?

Views about whether Esterházy deserves to have a bust in Košice differ, just like the opinions about his historical role. Matica Slovenská, a state-supported cultural organisation, rejected the bust as tension-inducing, and some human rights organisations have protested against it due to Esterházy’s record of anti-Semitism. But historians are divided over the bust.

“I believe it is not justified,” Zemko said. “Esterházy, with his political and conspiratorial activities against the state of which he was a citizen, is not a good example for the present and the future of Europeans.”

Ivan Mrva, a historian at the University of Ss Cyril and Methodius, however, says that Esterházy’s conspiratorial activities are unconfirmed and in the end he was a victim of post-war hysteria in Europe. From that point of view, the bust is not problematic.

“The question, however, is whether this is not one of the Hungarian provocations that have grown in number – and we, Slovaks, are sensitive to that,” Mrva said.

Kollai of the Hungarian Cultural Institute said Hungarians are trying to avoid any provocation and believe that Esterházy can serve as an example for Slovaks of what Hungarians think about some historical issues.

“If this example is accepted by Slovaks as an understandable point of view at that time, it means that the whole behaviour of the Hungarian community at that time was understandable and acceptable,” Kollai said.

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The Esterházy family (in another spelling Eszterházy , in Latin :Familia Estoras), an old Hungarian noble family with the rank of prince and count from the Solomon clan , which has played a decisive role in Hungarian history since the 17th century . The family members were high-ranking persons like Miklós Esterházy and Paul Esterhazy palatines , Imre Esterházy , Archbishop of Esztergom , Joseph Esterhazy Chief Justice , Esterházy "the Magnificent" Nicholas Joseph , who include Joseph Haydn was also patron and Pál Esterházy Antal to Minister around the person of King in the Batthyány government in 1848 , as well as Hungarian Prime Minister Móric Esterházy and the Kossuth Prize-winning Hungarian writer Péter Esterházy .

Noble family
Coa Hungary Family Esterházy.svg
Kingdom of Hungary , Austro-Hungarian Monarchy
Solomon's clan
12th century
Side branch
Fraknó branch
· Tata subsection
· Bernolákovo subsection
Csesznek branch
in Zvolen branch
· older subsection
· Transylvania subsection
Prince of Galanta
count , imperial prince
Esterházy Castle in Fertőd

The imperial coat of arms of the Ducno branch of the family on the wall of Kőszeg Castle
We distinguish three main branches and four additional branches of the Esterházys. The three main branches are Frakno , Chesny and Zvolen . The former is divided into two subdivisions, Tata and Cseklész , while the third main branch is divided into the older and Transylvanian subdivisions. The most well-known of the family's many estates and castles are the Eisenstadt Castle and the Fractno Castle (today both Austria ), as well as the Csákvár Castle , the Tata Castle and the Fertőd Castle called "Magyar Versailles" .

Branches of the family Editing
This family also has three main and several branches. It was first branched by the sons of Ferenc Esterházy. Miklós founded the Frakno branch, Daniel founded the Csesznek branch, and Paul (1587–1645) [1] [3] founded the Zvolen branch. Different branches of the family were given different titles and rights. Thus, the Tatai branch of the Frakno branch was princely, the Cseklész branch, the Csesznek and Zólyom branches were counts. Among the main branches, Cseszneki is also divided into two subdivisions, namely the older subdivision and the Transylvanian subdivision.

List of princes of Esterházy Editing
Miklós Esterházy (1583–1645) ∞ Krisztina Nyáry

Prince Paul I. Esterházy of Galanta (1635–1713) ∞ (1.) Orsolya Esterházy (2.) Éva Thököly
(1.) Prince Michael I. Esterházy of Galanta (1671–1721) ∞ Anna Margherita di Tizzoni Blandrata
(2.) Prince Antal József Esterházy of Galanta (1688–1721) ∞ Maria Octavia von Gilleis
Esterházy II. Prince Antal Paul of Galanta (1711–1762) ∞ Maria Anna Louisa Lunatti-Visconti
Esterházy Nicholas I. Joseph Prince Galánta (1714-1790) ∞ Marie Elisabeth von Weissenwolff
Prince Antal I. Esterházy Prince of Galanta (1738–1794) ∞ Maria Theresa Erdődy of Monyorókerék and Monoszló
Esterházy II. Prince Miklós Ferdinand of Galanta (1765–1833) ∞ Maria Josepha von und zu Liechtenstein
Esterházy III. Prince Antal Pál of Galanta (1786–1866) ∞ Maria Theresia von Thurn und Taxis
Esterházy III. Prince Károly Miklós Prince of Galanta (1817–1894) ∞ Sarah Frederica Child-Villiers
Esterházy IV. Prince Miklós Pál Prince of Galanta (1843–1898) ∞ Maria von und zu Trauttmansdorff-Weinsberg
Esterházy IV. Miklós Pál Antal Mária Prince of Galanta (1869–1920) ∞ Margit Cziráky of Cirák and Dénesfalva
Esterházy V. Pál Mária Lajos Antal (1901–1989) ∞ Ottrubay Melinda
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Re: Vampire hungry hungarian

Postby Meno_ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:50 am

New school curriculum raises eyebrows in Orban's Hungary

Anti-Semitic authors will soon be compulsory reading in Hungarian schools, and history books will be rewritten to promote pride in the nation. Viktor Orban's controversial new school curriculum is drawing outrage.
Along with a controversial new bill that greatly increases the power of Hungary's far-right Prime Minister Victor Orban, which has been described by critics as a power grab, the country's education system is also facing reforms reflecting the government's nationalist propaganda.

When Orban presented the new National Core Curriculum (NAT) at the end of January, nobody suspected that two months later, all schools in the country would remain closed until further notice.

The coronavirus crisis has practically brought Hungary's education system to a standstill.

"Apart from a few exceptions, home schooling is currently not working in Hungary," Ildiko Reparszky, a teacher at Mihaly Fazeka's high school in Budapest, told DW.

The state's online learning platform regularly breaks down. Many teachers and students do not have access to stable internet connections or laptops, especially in the poorer regions of the country.

"The current situation shows how the modernization of the education system has been neglected in recent years," said Reparszky.

Even though the school system is collapsing, the Hungarian government wants to maintain the launch of its much-criticized nationalist curriculum in September. Protests against it are growing. Teachers' associations, students, parents, professors and intellectuals have been criticizing the ideologically driven, overloaded new program.

Read more: Hungary's university ban on gender studies heats up culture war

Deleted from school reading lists: Nobel Prize laureate Imre Kertesz, here at the award ceremony in 2002
The curriculum's patriotic goals are particularly clear in literature and history. Students should learn to be "proud of their people's past." The nation's historical wartime defeats are to be deleted from textbooks and replaced by portrayals of victorious battles. Hungarian legends and myths are to be presented as historical facts.

The controversial authoritarian rule of Miklos Horthy from 1920 to 1944 is also to be portrayed in a positive light. The fact that Horthy passed anti-Jewish laws in 1920 and later became one of Adolf Hitler's close allies will be downplayed.

Sandor Petofi (1823-1849)

Laszlo Miklosi, chairman of Hungary's History Teachers' Association, described this idealized portrayal of the country's history as "highly problematic." It not only distorts students' views of history, it deters critical thinking, he told DW.

Mandatory reading: anti-Semitic authors

The literature program has also been highly criticized. Hungary's only Nobel laureate for literature, Holocaust survivor Imre Kertesz, was removed from the curriculum, as well as the internationally recognized and widely translated novelist Peter Esterhazy, who received the Peace Prize of the German Book Trade in 2004.

Instead, works by nationalist authors such as Jozsef Nyiro and Albert Wass are now mandatory reading. Nyiro was a member of the fascist Arrow Cross Party and an admirer of Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. Wass was an avowed anti-Semite and convicted war criminal. The government of Orban's Fidesz party has been pushing the rehabilitation of these authors for years, erecting new monuments and naming streets after them.

A statue of the nationalist author Albert Wass near Budapest
The new reading lists have sparked a nationwide outcry. Teachers' unions, universities and the Hungarian Academy of Sciences have called for the curriculum to be withdrawn. Teachers protested on social media under the hashtag #noNAT with slogans such as "I don't teach fascist writers." Criticism also came from conservative circles and churches.

Another move in the country's 'culture war'

With the introduction of the new curriculum, Viktor Orban's Fidesz government is pursuing its centralization policy in the education sector. "The government is using schools as a battlefield in their culture war," political scientist and educational researcher Peter Rado said.

Fights against the new program: Education expert Peter Rado
The government had also previously forced Budapest's Central European University (CEU), founded by Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros, to relocate the majority of its operations outside the country, while expanding its political influence on the Hungarian Academy of Sciences (MTA).

With the adoption of a controversial cultural law at the end of last year, cultural institutions have also been under greater government control.

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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:44 am

The State of My Art
The latest news and a little bit more from James Beaman

That Hairy Hound from Budapest

Those who follow my blog or my Facebook know that I have a passion for acting as my own dramaturge with each role I assay, and adore researching the origins of my character--and, in the case of revivals--the actors who played the role before me. Not only does this research provide context for, and texture to my performance, it also gives me a greater appreciation for the originating

creative talents that collaborated on the piece at hand.

This February, I return to one of my favorite theaters in one of my favorite spots: Riverside Theatre in Vero Beach, Florida, to play the delicious cameo role of Zoltan Karpathy in one of the greatest of all musicals, "My Fair Lady." This top notch regional theatre, lovingly supported by an enthusiastic snowbird community, brings beautiful productions to the stage each season. My debut there was as another Hungarian, impresario Bela Zangler in "Crazy For You," directed by the wonderful James Brennan; I returned two seasons later to play headwaiter Rudolph Reisenweber in "Hello, Dolly!," also directed by Jimmy.

I have long been a lover of the works of George Bernard Shaw, and "Pygmalion," upon which "My Fair Lady" is based, is one of my favorites of his plays. I also adore the film version, produced in 1938 with the participation of Shaw, who won the Oscar for his screenplay. The film starred Leslie Howard and the incomparable Wendy Hiller, who was Shaw's choice for the role of Eliza Doolittle. Alan Jay Lerner's book for the musical is based upon the "Pygmalion" screenplay, which is why Zoltan Karpathy--who is not in the original play--appears in "My Fair Lady."

The reason audiences of the original play never met Karpathy is that the scene at the Embassy Ball, where Eliza dazzles high society with her poise and elocution, was only added to "Pygmalion" for the 1938 film. There's some fun dramaturgy behind how this character came to be.

Hungarian-born Gabriel Pascal, who was also a long time friend of Shaw's, was the producer of many of the great writer's plays, including "Pygmalion," which was a huge international hit. After failing to persuade Shaw in the '30s to allow a musical adaptation of the play (!), he did convince him to collaborate on the film version. The movie medium allowed for much more freedom of location, and the Embassy Ball sequence was added--along with Karpathy. I can't help but see this Hungarian fop as an in-joke between Shaw and Pascal!

Shaw wrote the part specially for actor Esmé Percy. Trained as an actor by the divine Sarah Bernhardt, Percy had been a big star of the English stage and something of a matinee idol, and had originated several of Shaw's leading men. He even played Henry Higgins at one point, opposite the original Eliza Doolittle Mrs. Patrick Campbell.

Esmé Percy
By the 1930s, Percy had lost his good looks (as well as an eye, in an accident involving a Great Dane--he had a glass one for the rest of his life) and had become an established character man on the screen. For him, the delectable Karpathy (originally "Count Aristide Karpathy") was created. The character is a former student of Professor Higgins, who took his knowledge of phonetics and languages to the courts of Europe, making it his business to unmask social climbers and aristocratic frauds. He of course poses a big threat to Higgins and his "Galatea," Eliza... but ultimately, he concludes that her English is so good she has to be foreign born; and her manners so impeccable he concludes she is a Hungarian princess in disguise!

Theodore Bikel as Karpathy

The part of Karpathy (now with the first name of Zoltan) in "My Fair Lady" on Broadway was played by Christopher Hewett, best known for his brilliant portrayal of Roger DeBris in the original film of Mel Brooks' "The Producers." When the musical was brought to the screen by legendary director George Cukor, the part was played by Theodore Bikel. Bikel was another stage leading man who had become a character actor. He was the original Captain Von Trapp in "The Sound of Music." Bikel was a guitarist and folk singer and the song "Edelweiss" (incidentally the last song Oscar Hammerstein wrote) was composed for him, to maximize on these talents. By the time "My Fair Lady" came along, he had become known for his virtuosity with dialects--on screen he played German, Russian, French--even a redneck sheriff from the deep South. Who better to prance through the Hungarian affectations of Karpathy?

I take pride in having evolved into something of a "chameleon" and I enjoy submerging myself into delicious characters with crazy dialect challenges. Karpathy is another great cameo to add to the pantheon of characters I've been fortunate to play. Oh, let's face it! I am incredibly blessed not only to work with Jimmy Brennan again, and to do this great musical, but to return to the genteel and sunny environs of Vero Beach once more in the dead of a New York winter. "My Fair Lady" runs March 12-31. For tickets, and more information, visit the Riverside Theatre website.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:51 am

Now more on 'c'crazy' defer to other genres, mostly of philosophical reference.what I am ultimately looking for , is not the escotological referential play, on words, but the linear representation through which allusions can be appropriated.

There was once a Hungurain restaurant down Western avenue, called 'The Heart of Eurioe,

The propriator's son married a Korean airman He fooled around, and her brother killed him for breaking her heart. True story.
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Re: Vampire - envy as bar to absolute non attachment

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Postby Berkley Babes » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:34 pm

All this dada expressionism has got me hungry for blood. Or is it thirsty?
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Postby Berkley Babes » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:35 pm

All this dada expressionism has got me hungry for blood. Or is it thirsty?
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Postby Meno_ » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:16 pm

As I understand it, it is humger for thirst, even. At least within this context, literally.

Hunger for knowledge? Or thirst for knowledge?e

Eating stuff needs more guttoral work, but rhem again a drink now and then needs no digestion, it flows right theew; so dunno, I guess it's a matter for memory.....

But then again , some dance to remember , others to forget

Where cosmic dances make sense, as well.
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Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:27 am

But I would like to point to some fact, that points to the dada and the sensible intersection as a newer version of norm.
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Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:52 pm

And, that Dad a arose as a response to the horrid of WW1 and the 'Spanish flu' pandemic.


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Contents Index
The Ambivalence of Frankenstein
Robert Wexelblatt
Arizona Quarterly, 36 (1980), 101-17
Frankenstein as Synthetic Myth
[{101}] Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, first published in 1818, has become a modern myth. The basic story is one that almost everyone knows, and thus the tale is likely to be alluded to on all sorts of occasions, just as are the old Greek stories of gods and heroes. What everyone knows is that Frankenstein is the story of a scientist who seeks to create a man and instead makes a monster who ultimately destroys his creator.
Though Frankenstein functions as a myth, it was not created as most primitive myths probably were, as explanations of natural phenomena or elaborations of actual events. In modern times we have history to record actual events and science to explain natural phenomena. Instead, Frankenstein is a synthetic myth about science itself, a symbolic story that appeals deeply to the modern imagination as containing some truth. But this truth is not just about science; it is also about the imagination to which it appeals and about all human creativity -- that of writers as well as researchers, of Mary Shelley as well as Victor Frankenstein.

Shelley, who was not yet twenty when she wrote Frankenstein, seems to have been entirely conscious of the mythic dimension of her story. She demonstrated this awareness by giving her novel the subtitle "The New Prometheus." This is in itself a mythic allusion, of course, and a highly suggestive one. The titan Prometheus' most famous act was to steal fire from Mount Olympus and give it to man. In the various versions of the Greek story that have come down to us, especially that of Aeschylus in Prometheus Bound, it is clear that this heavenly fire stands for the light of reason and, more particularly, technological reason and {102} skill. Yet to the Romantic poets of Shelley's time -- for two of the best of whom she made up this story -- Prometheus stood also for artistic creativity and liberal revolution. Her husband Percy wrote a drama after Aeschylus, Prometheus Unbound, on these themes. Yet two other aspects of the Prometheus myth are used in Frankenstein: the tradition which identifies Prometheus as the creator of the human race, and the motif of Prometheus' extraordinary punishment by Zeus for his daring benefaction to mankind. As Frankenstein remarks toward the end of the book, "I am chained in an eternal hell" [Walton 3]

But this allusion is equivocal, referring not only to the chaining of Prometheus to a mountain in the Caucasus, but also to the punishment of the rebellious angel Lucifer, who was thrust into the Abyss. At least as important a component of Frankenstein as the Prometheus legend is another favorite source book of the revisionist English Romantics, Milton's Paradise Lost. Beginning with the epigraph to the novel, Milton's epic is alluded to again and again by Shelley.

Paradise Lost actually tells two stories of which Mary Shelley makes use. One is the account of the fall of the archangel Lucifer, the brightest of the heavenly host who, through the sin of pride and rebellion against God, becomes the prince of Pandemonium, Satan. The second story is that of the creation of man and his fall from grace and natural innocence, a catastrophe brought on in large measure by Satan's envy of the happiness of Adam and Eve.

As with much else in Frankenstein, there is ambiguity about the uses to which Shelley puts Milton's poem. For instance, Frankenstein from time to time sees himself as resembling Satan: that is, as a blessed and talented young man who grew up in a Swiss Eden, but whose ambition and hubris have led him to usurp the proper work of God and Nature. He too believes himself to be, after a fashion, damned, or at least fallen. Just as often, however, it is the monster who sees himself as Satanic, as an initially good and virtuous being who, because he is rejected and abused by mankind, becomes an envious fiend, devoted to vengeance {103} and the principle that misery enjoys company. The whole literary education of the monster consists of Plutarch's Lives, Goethe's Sorrows of Young Werther (de rigueur for the period), and especially Paradise Lost. He himself tells Victor of the ambivalence with which he heard the English epic:

I often referred the several situations . . . to my own. Like Adam, I was apparently united by no link to any other being in existence. . . . Many times I considered Satan as the fitter emblem of my condition; for often like him, when I viewed the bliss of my protectors, the bitter gall of envy rose within me. (Chapter 15)
The third element of the synthetic myth is another old story which deeply animated the era in which Shelley wrote, the story of Faust. Faust, who sold his soul to gain forbidden knowledge and power, can be seen as a protoscientist as well as a "professor mirabilis" and black magician. Victor Frankenstein is in part modeled on Faust -- especially in the Ingolstadt episodes. Even his first scientific enthusiasms connect him to the legend, for it is the old alchemists who attract him to the study of nature. Both Victor and Faust are men who seek to challenge limitations set on experience; neither is seduced by evil, but by knowledge both are tempted to transgression. Both can be said to have chosen their damnation. Indeed, forms of damnation occur in all three mythic sources of Frankenstein, one of the themes of which is a redefinition of damnation itself.

Frankenstein and its Era: The Sleep of Reason Breeds Monsters
Frankenstein was written in the second decade of the nineteenth century and set in the final years of the eighteenth. There are good reasons why such a tale should have emerged from the Western imagination at just that period of history.
From the philosophical point of view, the most fundamental of the many revolutionary changes that occurred m the latter part of the eighteenth century was a reversal in the idea of the human. From the Greeks to Kant, philosophers had assumed that reason was the distinctively {104} human trait. Concurrent with the Industrial, American, and French revolutions, however, this apparently self-evident opinion began to change radically. The definition of the human, like many other slippery but essential concepts, is best understood as being achieved negatively; that is, the human is defined by the inhuman, the human becomes clear when we see what threatens it. Before the Industrial Revolution and large-scale urbanization, it was perfectly obvious that the "human" was threatened by wild animals and barbarians. To be human was to be, literally, civilized -- included in or connected to those precious enclaves and reason, cities. Artifice, the man-made world, not nature, was the true abode of humanity. Even the apparent exceptions to this cultural generality of the ancient world and the Renaissance prove the point. What could be more civilized or artificial, for instance, than the tradition of pastoral poetry? Utopianism too was a completely positive form of daydreaming up to the end of the eighteenth century. Plato, More, and Bacon dreamed sweetly of societies which wouid be wholly rationalized and thus fully human. These were fantasies of islands of sanity, more perfectly artificial worlds to be inhabited entirely by intellectuals, humanists, and those willing to be controlled by them. But when the dream began to become practicable on the mainland, as soon as rational utopianism could be conceived as a vast engineering project, modern antiutopianism was born. In short, intellect began the struggle with intellectualism.

The application of technology to the means of production and the consequent shift of population from countryside to city caused a revision in the idea of the human because they redefined the inhuman. What now threatened humanity was not un-reason, but reason and reason's flood of products. Rousseau's contrast between the health and virtue of the simple Swiss peasant and the corruption and decadence of the hyperartificial Parisian aristocrat set the tone for the English Romantics. The pilgrimage to Switzerland became a requirement; and it was in Switzerland, not surprisingly, {105} that Frankenstein was both written and largely set. The new cultural emphasis on the nonrational laid out a good deal of the agenda of the nineteenth century. The end of the Age of Reason began the Age of the Buried, eventually giving us not only Romantic art but also modern psychology and anthropology -- the two modern sciences most dedicated to digging up things other than artifacts.

Frankenstein reflects these cultural movements fairly exactly, even in its characteristic ambiguities. For instance, the origin of all the Satanic overtones in the book can be located in the consuming scientific and rationalistic ambition of Victor Frankenstein, who does the digging. On the other hand, the monster itself is what has been buried. Along with the fine sentiments of the "good heart," the novel portrays the dangers of the nonrational.

The defeat of reason is always a highly ambivalent victory. When Kant made the Will -- that is, the nonrational element in personality -- primary, he insisted that it was still reason which must discipline that Will into goodness. But what if reason should go to sleep . . . ? For that eventuality we have Goya's famous drawing, The Sleep of Reason Breeds Monsters. This phrase would make a succinct account of Mary Shelley's novel. For the Romantics, inspiration, like the human, needed to be redefined. What earlier artists had thought of as coming from the outside and from on high, the Romantics redefined as coming from the inside and from below. The matrix of poetic imagery was the Unconscious. "Writers have always known about the Unconscious," Freud would say. Recalling her search for a story and her inspiration in the 1831 introduction to Frankenstein Mary Shelley wrote:

When I placed my head on my pillow, I did not sleep, nor could I be said to think. My imagination, unbidden, possessed and guided me. [Introduction 10]
The unconscious elements of Frankenstein we will get to presently. First there are the many conscious ones that require attention, for the book did not leap fully whelped from the repressed wishes and fears of an eighteen-year-old {106} girl. The half-waking nightmare had to be given form; light had to define the dark.
First of all, there is the genre of Frankenstein. The work can be classified as a Gothic novel, but it is a rather special example of the Gothic. The Gothic novel is an English invention, the earliest example being Horace Walpole's The Castle of Otranto (1764). But the Gothic did not become a truly popular form until after the French Revolution. Life had to catch up with art; or, conversely, the theme of terror caught on in literature only after it caught on in Paris.

One of the prisoners freed from the Bastille in July 1789 was the Marquis de Sade. He was the first to use the term "modern novel" and it was to the Gothic that he applied it. Prevailing before the Gothic, and competing with it in Shelley's day, was the domestic and sentimental novel. Shelley alludes to this competition wryly, though a little contradictorily, in the original preface to Frankenstein:

. . . my chief concern . . . has been limited to the avoiding the enervating effects of the novels of the present day, and to the exhibition of the amiableness of domestic affection, and the excellence of universal virtue. [Preface 2]
In its early days the Gothic novel was revolutionary and anti-middle class. Its very existence constituted a criticism of normality, civility, stability. The Gothic is, in fact, the opposite of the domestic, realistic novel, and it is about anything but "universal virtue." The fact that Frankenstein should contain both kinds of novels constitutes the basic formal or generic ambivalence in the book.
What makes the Gothic, with all its absurdities of plot, appear "modern" is its underlying concern with underlying concerns, with the unconscious and extreme emotional states, with terror, guilt, aggression, anxiety, sexuality. These are the themes of Frankenstein itself, which plays virtuoso games with them all. Generally speaking, the stories of Gothic novels are so silly that they must be treated either as escapism or as symbolism.

Amateur Psychoanalysis
Gothic novels are fantasies. As they are not imitations of reality, something must mediate between reality and such tales. If Frankenstein were not at all a serious book, the mediation might be simply the notion of escape. However the novel is serious, therefore symbolic, and other mediators must be employed.
According to Shelley's 1831 introduction, the author was all her life being dogged by the same question: "How I, then a young girl, came to think of, and to dilate upon, so very hideous an idea?" [Introduction 1]. Well, let us suppose that young Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley had not written a novel but instead sought an appointment with a psychoanalyst to deal with an elaborate and recurrent nightmare. How might that question be answered?

We can imagine the analyst beginning with Freud's theory. Dreams must be related to reality by understanding them as symbolic. When the material behind the dream is sufficiently unacceptable to the dreamer's conscious mind, then a censoring device will transform the material symbolically. A concealed and subconscious "reality" -- a netherworld of wishes, fears, anxieties -- is thus transmuted into a set of symbolic images and actions. It was Freud's method to seek the key to such fantasies in the early life of his patient. Is there, then, some reason to think that, always granting her precocious literary skill, Mary Shelley might quite logically have created just such a fantasy as Frankenstein?

Mary Shelley was born in 1797, which must be very close to the year in which Frankenstein is set. Her mother, Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin, a very talented woman, a writer and an early feminist, died giving her birth.

Mary's early life was spent with her imposing father, William Godwin (to whom Frankenstein is dedicated), a stepmother, stepsister, stepbrother, half-brother, and half-sister. In the introduction of 1831, Shelley gives some interesting information about the origins of her dreaming among all these hyphenated relatives:

As a child I scribbled; and my favourite pastime, during the hours given {108} me for recreation, was to "write stories." Still I had a dearer pleasure than this, which was the formation of castles in the air -- the indulging in waking dreams. . . . [Introduction 2]
Shelley goes on to make an interesting contrast between her writings and these dearer daydreams:
My dreams were at once more fantastic and agreeable than my writings. In the latter I was a close imitator -- rather doing as others had done, than putting down the suggestions of my own mind . . . my dreams were all my own . . . they were my refuge when annoyed. . . . [Introduction 2]
The distinction between the imitative writing and the escapist fantasizing of her childhood resembles that between the domestic and Gothic novels. Moreover, this account of her juvenile creativity suggests that Mary may not have felt herself quite at ease with her family. She goes on to describe the time the family spent in Scotland thus:
. . . my habitual residence was on the blank and dreary northern shores of the Tay, near Dundee. Blank and dreary on retrospection I call them; they were not so to me then. They were the eyry of freedom, and the pleasant region where unheeded I could commune with the creatures of my fancy. [Introduction 3]
It was to Scotland that Mary eloped with Percy Bysshe Shelley in 1814, at the age of sixteen, causing a scandal. Shelley was married to someone else at the time. In 1816 they were married to each other, only after the suicide of Mary's half-sister and that of Percy's first wife, Harriet. Mary's first child died in infancy; two others, William and Clara, died shortly thereafter.
If Frankenstein, in its unconscious origins, is indeed a kind of dream, then, together with this biographical sketch, one might venture a diagnosis, which is to say a "psychoanalytic" interpretation. For instance, the obsession with the theme of guilt in the novel, in particular the equivocal and indirect guilt of Victor Frankenstein for his creature's depredations, could be ascribed to Mary's unresolved feelings over the death of Percy Shelley's wife Harriet or, more deeply, of her own mother. From the same source one could also derive the symbolic identification of sex and death which constitutes the climax of the book: the murder of a young woman on her wedding night, on her {109} marriage bed. Moreover, an identification of men as killers follows logically enough. One could go still further and suggest that Mary subconsciously played all three parts in that climactic scene: killer, victim, and observer. Lastly, on the evidence, one could speculate that Mary might have repressed a good deal of aggression against her extended family; for the victims of Frankenstein's monster are almost entirely the relations of Victor. They are, so to speak, picked off one at a time.

This approach to the book implies that the "censoring" of unacceptable personal emotions and wishes is carried out by something like a "superego" -- that is, by a set of values including traditional ethics (what Nietzsche would later call "Slave Morality"), Mary's own Rousseauian values, and those learned early in life from the family. What gets censored is the intolerable, the inadmissible, the unacceptable. These are the fears, guilts, aggressions, and anxieties listed above. The result is the nightmare, or rather those sections of the symbolic novel dealing with the monster. It is obvious to readers that these sections are also the most vivid, original, exciting, and best written in the book. They constitute the antisocial and genuinely Gothic portions of the novel. What the unconscious is excited by -- power, willfulness, vengeance, aggression -- is symbolized by the monster. The character of Elizabeth Lavenza is clearly identified with the first set of values, the "enervating" ones that do the censoring. But the monster is just as clearly identified with the literally buried and forbidden. In between, pulled both ways, is of course what Freud called the Ego -- in this case Victor Frankenstein or Mary Shelley.

This pattern can be carried to another level. The "creature" of Victor corresponds also to the "creation" of Mary Shelley, the book itself. Victor is an artist as well as a scientist. This connection appears in Shelley's own introduction (of 1831) where she describes her first half-waking vision of creator and creature, the kernel of her story:

Frightful must it be; for supremely frightful would be the effect of any {110} human endeavour to mock the stupendous mechanism of the Creator of the world. His success would terrify the artist; he would rush away from his odious handywork, horror-stricken. [Introduction 10]
Among other things, the monster can be understood as a representation of the "monstrous" side of Victor Frankenstein and Mary Shelley. On the one hand we have the self that desires to love, wants the family, adores nature; while on the other we have the isolated and accursed self that would destroy -- it is even speculated -- all of human society. Victor is bored by the domestic amiability of Geneva, excited by his work at Ingolstadt. But for that work he is repeatedly punished by mysterious illnesses, breakdowns. The novel shows us a gradual tearing away of all other relationships, ties, affections, until, in the midst of frigid and inhuman landscapes, the two sides pursue each other in a frantic fable of revenge and the ultimate disintegration of personality. From Werther on, Romanticism has always contained its own critique.

A Review of Dualisms
In constructing her novel, Mary Shelley laid out the doubleness of the Romantic imagination as clearly as anyone has done. These dualities are, in effect, the stuff of the book. They can be listed as follows:

The Monster Elizabeth
Extraordinary Deaths Ordinary Life
Murder, Terror Love, Marriage
Gothic Novel Family Novel
"Evil" "Virtuousness"
Excitement Boredom
Disease Health
Ambition Contentment
Loneliness Social Life
Ingolstadt (cell, garret) Geneva (family, home, Alps, lakes)
Prof. Krempe (malevolent) Prof. Waldman (benevolent)
Glacial and Polar Ice Swiss mountains and lakes
Each side stands for a set of duties and values. On the left lie discovery, creativity, striving, duties primarily to oneself; {111} on the right, social duties and public responsibilities. Victor is in the position of having to try to mediate between his own divisions. But the novel inevitably puts the question, which side is the more compelling?

The rudimentary ambivalence of the book derives from the differences between the author's conscious and formal intentions and her unconscious inspiration. Consider again the theme of guilt. The guilt of Victor Frankenstein is in fact a highly complex matter. Consciously, the author portrays Victor's guilt as that of an initially well-meaning young scientist who has let loose a horror on society and cannot quite take responsibility for his action. Unconsciously this guilt is also that of the id in relation to the ego, or that of the revolutionary spirit before the society which has nurtured it and which it aims to destroy.

However, is it truly guilt that Victor or Mary feel? It does not seem impossible that Mary Shelley had a good deal of sympathy for her "monster." After all, she makes him eight feet tall, wonderfully agile, remarkably resourceful, both more eloquent and more intelligent than his creator. Under our amateur analysis the monster is acting out impulses or wishes she has repressed. Momentarily, at least, the monster himself seems to break free of the whole context of this guilt and to speak from an ethical orientation which has nothing in common with the conscious values of civilized life. Toward the end of the book, in his final speech, the monster says, "Evil thenceforth became my good" [Walton 14].

If Victor Frankenstein, like John Faust, is damned, then what is damnation? The answer of the last century is that damnation is a full commitment to the Unconscious, an abandonment of the duties and restraint along with the comforts and pleasant mediocrities of social life. To be damned is to desert one's ordained place in humanity, to ignore ethics, to make a deliberate leap outside the circle. This leap is not necessarily one of faith, as Kierkegaard put it -- though that would be a salvation which looks a good deal like damnation -- but a salto mortello, as Nietzsche had it beyond both good and evil.

Frankenstein and Philosophical History:
Is the monster bad because he is ugly or is he ugly because he is bad?
In depicting her monster, Mary Shelley had the obligation to answer some essential questions of contemporary ethical philosophy, especially the question as to the moral nature of mankind. This was the issue which had animated the philosophy of Hobbes (man is by nature nasty), the contrary views of Rousseau (nature is nice), and the grand synthesis of Immanuel Kant. Somewhat transformed, the same question would be at the basis of Nietzsche's work of ethical "transvaluation" toward the end of the nineteenth century. How then is this question answered in Frankenstein? With stlll more ambiguity.
Once more, there is little doubt about Shelley's intended answer to the question: it is that of a good Rousseauian liberal. Through the monster's own words we are shown that he is initially good, innocent, and well-meaning. He saves a child from drowning; he admires, loves, and aids the DeLaceys. He is filled with heroic benevolence and even feels a touching compassion for the American Indians, those other "noble savages." If he becomes evil, it is only because he is rejected; and he is rejected solely because he is hideous to look at.

The monster's initial contacts with human society show him met with increasing violence and hostility. After staggering out of Ingolstadt he encounters an old man in his hut. The man

. . . turned on hearing a noise; and, perceiving me, shrieked loudly, and, quitting the hut, ran across the fields. . . . (Chapter 11)
The next time it is a village he enters:
I had hardly placed my foot within the door, before the children shrieked, and one of the women fainted. The whole village was roused; some fled, some attacked me, until, grievously bruised by stones and many other kinds of missile weapons, I escaped to the open country. . . . [2.3.5]
If everyone else judges him by his appearance, the monster himself is by no means immune from the same prejudice. His hideousness turns out to be the source of his self-hatred:
{113} . . . how was I terrified, when I viewed myself in a transparent pool! At first I started back, unable to believe that it was indeed I who was reflected in the mirror; and when I became fully convinced that I was in reality the monster that I am, I was filled with the bitterest sensations of despondence and mortification. (Chapter 12)
The half-blind old DeLacey accepts him at once. Morally there is nothing wrong with the monster at all. His nature is sound. Indeed, there is a great deal in the book which plays up the general goodness of nature, espcially the Swiss varieties thereof, in the most conventional Romantic terms. In indicting his own obsession with his forbidden researches Victor can hardly find anything more damning to say than that:
. . . my eyes were insensible to the charms of nature. [1.3.7]
Nature is restorative; nature is peaceful and beneficent. The monster is, to begin with at least, far more sinned against than sinning and thus no "monster" at all. His subsequent elaborate fiendishness, his choice to be feared if he cannot be loved, his tendency to act up to his appearance -- all that is really simple "reaction formation." Tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner. As for Victor, his turning away from the appreciation of nature to its cold-blooded violation is his great sin.
This side of the argument reflects that part of the book which is governed by the awake Mary Shelley, telling us of her ideals and reflecting her reading. But there is another side and it is perhaps more compelling. This is of course to look at the unconscious side of the novel which reflects Mary's inspiration instead of her reading. It is this side which looks forward to Nietzsche rather than backward to Rousseau.

From this point of view, the monster is made to appear ugly only because what he represents is "bad," which is to say unacceptable to consciousness. It was another English Romantic, Coleridge, who said that a man is not afraid because he dreams of a monster; he dreams of a monster because he is afraid. The same principle holds for eighteen-year-old girls. The monster is not bad because he is hideous, he is made to look hideous because of what he is.

The monster's sections of the book are clearly the best {114} from a literary standpoint. His character is the really original triumph of the novel, and it is not surprising that he has, in time, stolen his creator's name. Victor Frankenstein is not only short but quite pallid beside him, just as the "happy" sections of the book are, to adopt Mary Shelley's word, "enervating" when compared to, say, the monster's monologue. Take away the Freudian censor's bargain that the monster will be allowed to destroy the family so long as he appears to be "a fiend" and we have what amounts to Nietzsche's brutal Superman standing head and shoulders above the human and telling him in no uncertain terms:

Slave, I before reasoned with you, but you have proved yourself unworthy of my condescension. Remember that I have power. . . . You are my creator, but I am your master; -- obey! (Chapter 20)
Perhaps the "Master Morality" of Nietzsche is not so much a pre-Christian, pre-Socratic norm as it is the genuine nightmare of the "Slave Moralist." Nietzsche implies that it is both, in fact. The ambivalence is appropriate: what is buried under civilization is bound to appear at once to have preceded civilization and to have been repressed by it.
In terms of philosophic history, Frankenstein is a milestone on the road from Rousseau and Kant at the end of the eighteenth century to Nietzsche at the end of the nineteenth. To Rousseau, mankind is good by nature and "will" is therefore far better, because less artificial, than intellect. It was Kant who gave substance to this sentimental notion of the "good will" through his complex and revolutionary psychological theory. Kant's ethics can be understood as a synthesis of his response to two problems: the epistemological emergency caused by the skepticism of Hume (which reduced causality to a mere "habit of the mind") and the at once troubling and challenging anti-intellectualism of Rousseau. Kant resolved the problem raised by Hume by locating causality within the structure of the mind rather than in the external world, thus laying the groundwork for the expressive esthetic of Romanticism. He responded to Rousseau by becoming our first intellectual with a bad conscience. Intellect would henceforth be good only if it is in the service of "the rights of man."

{115} Kant speaks of the good will as the only absolutely good thing on earth and explains that the goodness of the will comes from acting on principles of duty which are available to every rational creature. Duty, like causality, is located in the mind's structure, in an a priori categorical imperative which can be applied in all situations. It is the job of reason to carry out the application. But these rational guidelines notwithstanding, Kant reinforced the primacy of the will and thus the nonrational elements in personality. He says little about the bad will, let alone the will to power. A century later, following Schopenhauer, Nietzsche would turn all the ethical counters over. Arguing from etymologies from his own view of Darwin, and from a remarkable sense of cultural history, Nietzsche "transvalued values" by simply reversing them. Evil thenceforth became his good. The values of the whole ethical tradition of the West -- from Moses and Socrates to Rousseau and Kant -- he dismissed as a botch, a tissue of wholly imaginary ends, fundamentally out of tune with reality, in sum, nothing more than the revenge of resentful slaves and life-despising weaklings on life and on their natural masters. In Nietzsche's work the primacy of the nonrational will becomes the primacy and the pointlessness of power. Intellect's role is no longer to make the will "good" in the Kantian sense, but only to make it effective. Reason is a good administrator; power sets the policy. Nietzsche tells the truth of Imperialism better than Kipling and just as well as Conrad.

In a Nietzschean reading of Frankenstein, the monster would be "good" while Elizabeth, Clerval, the Frankenstein family, and Victor (save when he is in his garret exercising his own obsessive powers) would be "bad." The monster is indeed the "master," a superman, a new species. Passion deserves to triumph over reason, the Übermensch over the "all-too-human," Dionysus over Apollo. The "savage" monster is not conditioned by being "noble" -- he is noble precisely because he is savage, a "more complete barbarian," as Nietzsche said of his "free spirits." Nietzsche would see in the fiendishness and ugliness of the monster the same process {116} that he said caused the slaves to invent the concept of "evil" out of all the fearsome virtues of their former lords. It is merely slave morality traducing the truth of the will and of nature once again. In other words, Freud's censor is Nietzsche's slave morality internalized.

The story which frames that of Victor Frankenstein and his creature is that of Captain Walton's attempt to reach the North Pole. Of course Walton's dangerous expedition is paralleled to Frankenstein's perilous experiment: both exceed natural limits in a spirit of youthful enthusiasm. Both are consciously motivated by moral considerations, yet both are driven by deeper and less understood impulses to put the lives of others at hazard. Both are "Faustian" -- as the historian Oswald Spengler said our whole culture is. There is an ambivalence about their enterprises which comes out quite clearly in the relations between Frankenstein and Walton. Early in their friendship Frankenstein pleads with Walton to return to port and not to follow his own example; however, during a crisis it is Frankenstein who persuades the crew to persevere. Frankenstein's last words still express the same ambivalence, a modern ambivalence wholly lacking, say, in the final words of Don Quixote, which they otherwise resemble:

Seek happiness in tranquillity, and avoid ambition, even if it be only the apparently innocent one of distinguishing yourself in science and discoveries. Yet why do I say this? I have myself been blasted in these hopes, yet another may succeed. (Chapter 24)
The essential ambivalence of Frankenstein has much to do with what the myth says about modern science. After all, Shelley's novel is our first and still one of our best cautionary tales about scientific research; it is the literary and philosophic equivalent to the crude Luddite reaction to industrialization. The issues of Frankenstein are no different, basically, from those around which public debate on nuclear power, pollution, and genetic research are now centered. The dilemma the novel depicts is significant not only because it reflects Mary Shelley's very interesting psyche and appeals {117} to the popular imagination in the original and innumerable sequels, but also because the young girl's private nightmare is so close to our public ones. Will our good intentions, like Victor's, be frustrated as our means destroy our ends? Can one renounce scientific ambition and discovery because of the risks involved? Can the perilously thin veneer of civilized values and rationality control the dark powers welling beneath them, or our own secret wishes to embrace those powers? And what are the responsibilities of a "creator"? Will Victor Frankenstein's lament continue to be echoed in this century and the next: "I, not in deed, but in effect, was the true murderer" [2.1.4]?

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The Summer Storm That Inspired Frankenstein and Dracula
Erin Zaleski
Updated Jul. 12, 2017 8:11PM ET Published Sep. 03, 2016 12:01AM ET

Columbia Pictures/Everett Collection
PARIS — It was, yes, a dark and stormy night two centuries ago. Indeed, it was a dark and stormy summer—so dark, so stormy, that those who lived through it remembered 1816 as the year with no summer at all.

But on one long night the horror that 18-year-old Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin confronted was writer’s block.

The would-be author was the daughter of the celebrated and notorious William Godwin, known as the father of philosophical anarchism, and Mary Wollstonecraft, a passionate advocate of women’s rights who had died when little Mary was born.

Now the teenage Mary was vacationing on the shores of Lake Geneva with a group of very talented, famous, freethinking and free-loving friends.

Among them was the poet Lord Byron, 28, who was almost as well known for his womanizing as for his verse. His literate wit and handsome face made him a Romantic idol, his powerful body bespoke all kinds of prowess, and his clubfoot leant him an alluring vulnerability. One former lover called him “mad, bad, and dangerous to know,” which was about right.

It was Byron, in fact, who was the unwitting cause of the blank page tormenting Mary.


Several days earlier, Godwin and another rather more ethereal poet, Percy Bysshe Shelley, who would soon be Mary’s husband, had arrived in Switzerland for a rendezvous with Byron. With them was Mary’s stepsister, Claire Clairmont, who was not quite a year younger.

Byron, who had fled a crumbling marriage and crippling debts, was holed up in a luxurious lakeside property called Villa Diodati, and the young, hedonistic group expected a summer of mountain hikes with a bit of idyllic boating. But weirdly glacial temperatures and frequent storms kept them mostly confined indoors, where long philosophical discussions were rumored to have been accompanied with copious amounts of sex, wine, and laudanum, an opium-laced tonic.


What the debauched wordsmiths didn’t know was that a global climate catastrophe had caused their wintry midsummer.

In 1815, Mount Tambora in what is now Indonesia blew up—the largest volcanic eruption in recorded history. Such enormous quantities of ash particles were blasted into the atmosphere that the earth’s temperature dropped by three degrees Celsius, and many areas of the world suffered an unseasonable chill that lingered for months. Widespread crop failure and food shortages plagued North America, while parts of Europe suffered hibernal storms and frosts.

The origins and extent of the disaster were unknown to Mary Godwin, Byron, and everyone else who shivered through the summer of 1816. What would become known throughout history as “The Year Without a Summer,” was, for this group of revelers just a mysterious spate of supernaturally awful weather.

“One night we enjoyed a finer storm than I had ever before beheld,” Godwin wrote in one of her letters. “The lake was lit up—the pines on Jura made visible and all the scene illuminated for an instant, when a pitchy blackness succeeded, and the thunder came in frightful bursts over our heads amid the darkness.”

As the wind beat against the windows and the rain churned up waves on the lake, the group spent the evening discussing the French translation of a German collection of ghost stories aptly titled Fantasmagoriana. Likely inspired by the sinister ambiance, Byron challenged each of his guests to craft his or her own tale of terror.

“I busied myself to think of a story,” Mary would write years later in the preface to one of the most famous horror novels of all time. “One which would speak to the mysterious fears of our nature, and awaken thrilling horror—one to make the reader dread to look round, to curdle the blood, and quicken the beatings of the heart.” Unfortunately, instead she “felt that blank incapability of invention which is the greatest misery of authorship, when dull Nothing replies to our anxious invocations.”

One night, after listening to Byron and Shelley have a long conversation about scientific experiments and the possibility of reanimating corpses, Mary suffered horrifying visions as she tried to sleep.

She imagined a doctor who had assembled a living thing from pieces of dead bodies: “I saw the pale student of unhallowed arts kneeling beside the thing he had put together,” she wrote. “I saw the hideous phantasm of a man stretched out, and then, on the working of some powerful engine, show signs of life, and stir with an uneasy, half vital motion.”

The nightmare put an end to her writer’s block, and, thanks to the ongoing storms, Mary Shelley, as she would soon be known, began penning the first pages of Frankenstein in the weeks that followed. Two centuries later, the novel is considered a Gothic masterpiece and its monster remains a potent fixture in popular culture, appearing everywhere from films to plays to cereal boxes.

“It is actually the most-read novel in American high schools," Neil Fraistat, a professor of English at the University of Maryland told The Daily Beast. “It might be the most read novel in the world.”

Fraistat, who also acts as the general editor of the Shelley Godwin Archive, which contains digital copies of Mary Shelley’s manuscripts, said he was nonetheless surprised by the worldwide interest the site generated.

“When we launched the archive with the Frankenstein manuscripts, we had 60,000 unique visitors within 24 hours, and disproportionately those visitors were coming from Latin America and Eastern Europe—places that any American scholar had no idea there was that kind of interest.”

Ruth Wylie, the assistant director of the Center for Science and the Imagination at Arizona State University, told The Daily Beast that even though two centuries have passed since Mary Shelley took her pen to the page, her novel remains relevant.

“It’s a phenomenal story that still makes a lot of sense today,” said Wylie, who is involved with the university’s Frankenstein Bicentennial Project. “We don’t have good answers to the questions Shelley poses 200 years ago. We are still trying to figure out how to balance this idea of innovation and ethical responsibility.”

Although Mary Shelley’s macabre creation cemented her place in literary history, a lesser-known member of the group brought an equally enduring monster to life. A fifth addition and something of a fifth wheel in the Villa Diodati crew was John Polidori (unfortunately nicknamed “Polly Dolly”). He had traveled to Geneva with Byron as the poet’s personal physician. Overshadowed by his famous peers, the 21-year-old wannabe writer nonetheless picked up the discarded draft of the story Byron had started on those dark and stormy nights.

Polidori’s creation, The Vampyre, told of the mysterious Lord Ruthven, a suave aristocrat who seduces and murders pretty young things. Prior to Polidori’s Ruthven, vampires were portrayed as ghoulish zombie-like creatures who preyed upon equally unsophisticated European villagers. His smooth and deadly nobleman (thought to be based on Lord Byron) paved the way for modern vampire lore, including Bram Stoker’s iconic Dracula.

Unfortunately for the father of the modern vampire, Polidori suffered rejection on both social and professional fronts.

Byron, having grown irritated with his sensitive young employee and his frequent bouts of ill health, shipped Polidori back to England before the summer on Lake Geneva ended. To add insult to injury, three years after The Vampyre was published, the work was falsely attributed to Byron.

“He was looked at, by Byron especially, as a lesser-than-hanger-on,” said Fraistat. “Polidori was not as famous, not as wealthy, not as connected, and he was ostracized.”

If the disastrous climate drove the party indoors, it was the early stages of a disastrous love affair that brought Mary Godwin and Percy Shelley to Byron’s doorstep in the first place. Before he fled England for Switzerland, Byron had begun sleeping with Mary’s then-17-year-old stepsister, Claire Clairmont, who also is rumored to have had an affair with Shelley.

Having fallen fast and hard for Byron, poetry’s bad boy, Clairmont traveled to Switzerland to seek him out, convincing Mary and Percy to come along. Although Byron was less-than-smitten with Clairmont, he wasn’t about to toss his love-struck young admirer out of bed, either.

“Now, don’t scold, but what could I do?” he wrote in a letter to his half-sister, who (surprise!) was also his lover. “I could not exactly play the Stoic with a woman— who had scrambled eight hundred miles to unphilosophize me.”

In short order, the behavior of Byron and his bohemian cronies raised the hackles of Lake Geneva’s stuffier British visitors.

“Our late great arrival is Lord Byron … and another family of very suspicious appearance,” one English gentleman wrote in a letter home. “How many he has at his disposal out of the whole set I know not, but different houses have been taken for both establishments.”

“He was insolent and repulsive, and his countenance is much disliked,” insisted the man, identified only as J.S.

Even Byron’s good friend Percy Shelley could be put off by his antics.

“Lord Byron, is an exceedingly interesting person,” Shelley wrote in a letter to the novelist Thomas Love Peacock that July. “Is it not to be regretted that he is the slave to the vilest and most vulgar prejudices, and as mad as the winds?”

As the chilly summer wore on, Byron grew increasingly tired of Clairmont and began avoiding her altogether. When she and the rest of the group left Switzerland at the end of August, Byron didn’t even bother to bid his broken-hearted lover good-bye.

Complicating matters was the fact that Clairmont was pregnant with Byron’s child. It was eventually decided that he would look after the baby while allowing Clairmont to visit under the guise of an aunt—an arrangement to which the impoverished young woman reluctantly agreed.

“A mistress never is nor can be a friend,” Byron is quoted as saying. “While you agree, you are lovers; and when it is over, anything but friends.”

Indeed, in the years that followed, Byron and Clairmont’s relationship further deteriorated, with Byron cruelly denying Clairmont access to her daughter.

“I have said before, you may destroy me, torment me, but your power cannot eradicate in my bosom the feelings of nature, made stronger in me by oppression and solitude,” Clairmont wrote in a letter to Byron dated May 4, 1820. “I beg from you the indulgence of a visit from my child.”

However, Byron refused to relent, instead shipping the little girl off to a convent in Italy, where she contracted an illness (possibly typhus or malaria) and died at just five years old.

Despite the suffering Clairmont endured over the affair, it was she who had the last word.

Nearly two centuries after that scandalous summer by the lake, a Cambridge scholar uncovered Clairmont’s unpublished memoir. In the document, an elderly Clairmont calls out Shelley and Byron for “lying, meanness, cruelty, and treachery,” and likens Byron to a “human tiger” who preyed on “defenseless women.” According to Clairmont, the true demons at Villa Diodati were not the fictional creatures on the page, but the Romantic poets themselves.

“Under the influence of the doctrine and belief of free love, I saw the two first poets of England… become monsters,” Clairmont wrote. “By preying on themselves and others, the worshippers of free love turned their existence into perfect hell.”

Whether or not their existence was actually hellish, it was certainly brief.

In the years following their return to England, tragedy stalked members of the Geneva clique. Just five years after the summer at Villa Diodati, Polidori committed suicide in London at the age of 25 by ingesting poison. A year later, Percy Shelley drowned while boating off the coast of Livorno, Italy. Byron died after contracting an unknown illness in Greece in 1824. And prior to her husband’s death, Mary Shelley lost three young children to illness. Decades later, she returned to the Villa Diodati and to her memories of her fateful summer there.

“There were the terraces and vineyards, the upward path threading them, the little port where our boat lay moored,” she wrote of the visit. “I could mark and recognize a thousand slight peculiarities.”

She continued:

“Was I the same person who had lived there, the companion of the dead? For all were gone … storm, and blight, and death, had passed over, and destroyed all.”

What Mary Shelley couldn’t have fathomed is that both the fictional monsters that emerged from the summer of 1816 and the monstrous legends of their creators are, 200 years later, very much alive.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Berkley Babes » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:41 pm

heard it was really about upper class living off the labor of the lower, sucking their life blood, specifically the fear of Jewish bankers all those years ago ...
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Re: Vampire -the last man

Postby Meno_ » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:02 pm

Just off the essential cuff:

The main thing here is not fear, of any kind, especially of loss of Freudian economy, but that of the sensed fear of loosing romantic idiom.

Perhaps as reminded eons ago, that idiom is unaffordable nowedays, and the last men have to spend enormously, from essential capital, only to insist on some measure of a differential , to gear up the insulant power to will some kind of reserve.

The art for it's own sake, evem, had to me made into a wild surmising whisper , but them such sparks have always demonstrated a tendency to find high ground, and dry to. any reception of it's ouv're, only presumption has a tendency to light up the allusive (ellusive) fire.

I I was to have the choice betweem being consumed for it, or give up that effort for fear, I would gladly, apart from those to whom I am totally committed.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:22 pm

I-d say Igor!

Now treccking back , from the galactic heights of the citttie, thought, well, nationalism redux, toward the unthinkable .

Where may bee, the founders of the original.

Constitution. Well ok cause they did nit 4 see china asleep, the dragoon, they always being a what you see what you get nationalism, a nationalistically coffined communistic east, winning at the objective end say Mao.

They so clever with our American enterprise to unite all nations via massive material industrial military hierarchy, liberalism, as a. constitutional marxian WESTERN manifest will get lost in the ions of hierarchical dynasties thousands of years old wrestling with newbee maggots like westerny philosophies.

As Christianity being a bait, Buddhism became the line and sinker is it any wonder, ?
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Re: Vampire

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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:22 am

Vampires are the antagonists of The Last Man on Earth. They are undead humans who were infected with and succumbed to Europe's Disease.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:33 pm

The "vampire" metaphor changed over the centuries.
More recently it has transformed from a representation of usury and socioeconomic parasitism into a romantic erotic ideal, when the parasites gained control over American creation and distribution of socioeconomic imagery.
Parasitism is now sexy and desirable.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:36 pm

Lorikeet wrote:The "vampire" metaphor changed over the centuries.
More recently it has transformed from a representation of usury and socioeconomic parasitism into a romantic erotic ideal, when the parasites gained control over American creation and distribution of socioeconomic imagery.
Parasitism is now sexy and desirable.

Indeed, there is partial truth to what You say, however the paratisism has an arcytipical encimpassment- transcendentially delimiting the old metaphor.

Such delimitation, reduces the ancient fear of magic, sourced from Babylonial through Persia and Egypt.

Magical attributes recurred many times and a wide array of interpretations through satyric and witchery sources.

The glamor of today''s manifestation , has always taken de-limited metaphor to magically unproven realms. Witchcraft has also become manifest in terms of admirable qualities, as the appearance of the 'good which' has become fashionable in women's liberation for example, to overcome gender bias.

The anti-semitic reference, also prevalent through the European presence of politically indiginipus conflict through identity wars of expanded nationalistic concerns , focused and dissipated through religious wars, reified new arcytipical models, that persisted from antiquity.

In the retroanalysis from American slavery reduced to slavery of inginious people generally, and sourced to the political sacrafice of the Jew: Jesus.

The reason Christ was sacrificed was basically political. , and through a very long road of dealing with the problem of ancient slavery. I personally don t believe that the Jews killed Jesus , but that their general concern for their security, drive them to restrain the political insecurity that rubbed off of Pontius Pilate's role in a very chaotic Roman Empire, hence the stage set in a newly formed empire became critically and optically sensitive.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:04 pm

I've told you try too hard to appear as more than what you are.

Nevertheless, I never said they invented the metaphor, nor magic...they appropriate and corrupt, refashioning symbols/words into ways that facilitate their chosen survival and reproductive all parasites do.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:08 pm

neither are weaknesses and superstitions invented by those that exploit and manipulable them in others.
What they do is learn how to cultivate them and direct them in the ones they want to dominate...see Gypsies.
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Re: Vampire

Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:11 pm

Lorikeet wrote:I've told you try too hard to appear as more than what you are.

Nevertheless, I never said they invented the metaphor, nor magic...they appropriate and corrupt, refashioning symbols/words into ways that facilitate their chosen survival and reproductive all parasites do.

Hard to gage appearances, more, or less. At any rate i have assured You before with the problem of positioning one's self in an appearently 0 sum situation.
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