call me "woke"

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call me "woke"

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed May 05, 2021 7:48 pm

I was born into a set and fixed situation....

my family was upper class and well connected... I had a
"privileged" childhood...and had my life stayed that way, would I
have become aware? I doubt it....because of circumstances, I/we
fell to the bottom of society... my sister and I were able to eat lunch because
of food programs that gave food to the lowest income family like ours....
we moved 14 times in 10 years over 4 states..
I was born hearing impaired, and that too separated me from others...
my life has been an exercise in standing outside of society and the "mass" of people...

to be part of something, society/the state/the culture means to be connected to
something.... but I had no connection to the state/society/culture.....
but it wasn't until high school that it dawned on me that I was different from
most people...I was handicap, I had moved many times, we lived in working class
poverty...where was my connection to middle class America?
the connections that drive the conservative is having some religion or being
white or being an American....... I didn't understand what the difference in
was in being white or having a religion or being an American... I have never
been religious, I never believed in god or other metaphysical trappings....
I didn't noticed or to say another way, I wasn't "woke" to the difference between
being a person of color and me.... I didn't notice the inequalities of the universe....
it didn't occur to me that being poor or white or colored or being an American
was something different then other people faced... I had only myself to compare
to the universe.. I didn't see I was different then other people and they were different from
other people... I never noticed the differences.....I only saw people, not
their differences or similarities...... just people...

during high school, I became aware of, I became "woke" to the differences
between how we see other people... I became "woke" to the racial, sexual identities
that people have.... before high school, it never dawned on me about racial matters
or to understand our sexual identities... that people might love the same sex or a different
gender, never dawned on me....

as I entered my twenties, I began to see that people were classified...
I began to see people as economic, political, social members....
I saw that workers, the working poor were dehumanized and negated as
human beings because they were the working poor....in my twenties,
I became aware of, I became "woke" to the injustices that society forces
upon people because of race, creed, color, sexual orientation, social status,
their titles, wealth or their relationship to power and their fame...

it wasn't by their nature, to be good or curious or character that society/the state
reacted to, it was their accidental traits that the society/the state reacted to...
being white or wealthy or famous or an America had nothing to do with anything
people did, it was inherited by people....an example is Kim Kardashian... she
was born into a wealthy family and achieved fame by being friends with Paris Hilton...
people react to her based upon accidental traits, not by anything she did....
and we react to her based on the accidental traits of being white or being famous....

or to say this completely differently... we react to people based on accidental
traits, being black or being poor or not being an American.....we react
to people's accidental traits with biases, prejudices, superstitions instead of
reacting to people character or their actions or even their words....

being "woke" means I am not reacting to people's accidental traits of
being white or being poor or being an American... I am aware of them
by who they are instead of being aware of them via biases, prejudices or
superstitions...... I react to the person, not to my bias or prejudice or
my superstitions of people....that is what it means to be "woke" I react
to people based upon who they are and not for their accidental or
to my bias, prejudice or superstition of them....

call me "woke" because I see people for who they are, not who I think they
are or what my biases, prejudices or superstitions think they are...

I am aware.... I am "woke"

and I quite proudly call myself "woke".... for I am aware of the differences
between people and I don't care what those differences are.... a person is still
a person, regardless of their accidental traits of existence.....

call me "woke"

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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed May 05, 2021 9:53 pm

Ill just keep calling you nazi, is that okay?
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed May 05, 2021 10:05 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Ill just keep calling you nazi, is that okay?



K: being called a Nazi by a clueless person doesn't mean much?

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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed May 05, 2021 10:08 pm

But it doesn't make a difference what you or I call you.
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Dan~ » Thu May 13, 2021 5:13 am

I think I am a little bit woke too.

At some point it becomes obvious that people aren't being properly evaluated.
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu May 13, 2021 2:23 pm

Dan~ wrote:I think I am a little bit woke too.

At some point it becomes obvious that people aren't being properly evaluated.


K: are you becoming aware of who you are and who other people are?

being "woke" is about being/becoming aware.. so anyone who is aware, is
"woke"

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Re: call me "woke"

Postby iambiguous » Thu May 13, 2021 5:16 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Ill just keep calling you nazi, is that okay?


Just out of curiosity, what would you call me?

And then we can take what you'd call me and explore it more, oh, I don't know...substantively?

Then in that exchange you can elaborate as to how what you call me is derived from your understanding of value ontology, astrology, Nietzsche, the old gods and all of the other components of your philosophy of life.

A new thread of course. Shall I start it?
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Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Sculptor » Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Ill just keep calling you nazi, is that okay?


Pot callin g kettle black.
Is it okay if I call you a cunt? You seem to identify as such.
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Sculptor » Thu May 13, 2021 5:44 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:But it doesn't make a difference what you or I call you.


That's because nothing you say is of any importance.
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Re: call me "woke"

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 7:18 am

Sculptor wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Ill just keep calling you nazi, is that okay?


Pot callin g kettle black.
Is it okay if I call you a cunt? You seem to identify as such.


he's jewish i think so im not sure if this really works because i don't think there are jewish nazis but i mean i could be wrong
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