Death

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Death

Postby Ben JS » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:46 am

[context: someone told me they were frightened of death, and it's affecting them a lot - so I've compiled this as a kind of offering... ways that I make peace with our mortality]

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To make peace with death.
To accept death.
To not be controlled by death.

Why?

To enable living.

Death's only power is in contrast to life,
as it is the absence thereof.

If life was a hideous thing that no one wanted,
death's value would appear great.

One's distaste for death, is a testament to one's regard for life.

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Death is perhaps one of the few things with utmost certainty you cannot change.
Thus:
To what purpose is energy devoted to it?
Unlike other problems, one can safely disregard contemplation of death,
as absence of which will not give rise to any further consequence -
you can't mess up your own death, your body will take of that for you.

Once you've came to accept death, and how you will respond to it,
further contemplation isn't necessary, as it is unchanging and
has no further words to say beyond it's initial ones.

And when you're dying?
Bugger death.
Contemplate life more.
Enjoy the sweet nectar 'til the final drop.

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You'll never experience a moment of death.
All you'll ever know is life.

Once you were not.
To which you will become again.

Then it's back into the hands of the cosmos.
To which it's mysteries are quite beyond us.

Chaos.
Infinite chaos.

Put a monkey at a typewriter for eternity.
That monkey will write the autobiography of the cosmos, repeatedly.

What's an eternity to a finite being?
A window, a glimpse, a snapshot.

One is aware, thus one can be.
When one is able, one is.

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It's healthy if we aren't nonchalant about death.
It keeps us cautious and vigilant of the things that may do us harm.
Our resistance to the concept of death protects us from it's causes.

But death isn't the monster it is often portrayed as.

If life did not end, life would not have evolved.
All the diversity we see in life required death.
It is a vital part of the system.

It's the cost of life.
The price of admission.

The book's final word.
The film's final frame.
The song's final note.

Would you never experience if you knew it would end?

A life's final thought.

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Scarcity increases the value of that which we cherish.
I think the scarcity of our time, compels change in us.

The pressure / weight can refine us.
Turn our lives into something rare and precious.

A diamond is a chunk of coal that did well under pressure.” ― Henry Kissinger

Our lives can be a fleeting dance to the resonations of the cosmos.
A celebration of the sublime - an affirmation to existence.

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The cherished memories.
Places of purity and beauty.
They sing and dance with my heart - my soul.
Their resonations could fill an eternity with warmth.

I'd do it all again.
I wish to do it all again.

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We each are given our time in the light.
To spread our wings and fly.
But a moment is reached where one must land to rest.
To clear the skies for another.

And when we're of the earth,
we can fuel their journey.

To leave seeds from our existence.
Perhaps where a plant may grow.

To create a welcome home.
As was given to us.

We'll always be here.
We're all the same energy.

Energy fluctuates, but never truly dissipates.

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The content don't fight restlessness, so the content will be influenced.
The restless play musical chairs with those at rest; the vibrations resonate with all.
In this process, the restless become rested.

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Death sits across from me.
I don't know what to say.
I look at it directly.
It's been sitting there calmly the whole time.
I've tried desperately to ignore it.
My mind is consumed by it.
All my actions are guided by it.
My identity is the remnants of what has endured it's gaze.
Life, creativity, growth, love, joy.
You're a second father.
You're unrelenting.
You force me to react.
I'm better that I know you.
But damned if you're my core.
I deny it.
Your power is with what you can take away.
I already have my core.
It's not you.
I know you.
I will continue to make fuel of you.
Formerly known as: Joe Schmoe

ben [founder of ILP - not myself] wrote:I think it is eloquently fitting that my farewell thread should be so graciously hijacked by such blatant penis waving. It condenses my entire ILP experience into one very manageable metaphor.
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Re: Death

Postby Ben JS » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:21 pm

[shameless spam]

The ending was a poem I wrote here on ILP in 2014, posted here - Second Father

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I'm interested to hear feedback as to your reaction to my ramblings, even if it's simply to say I'm an idiot and to shut up.

Or you can share your own thoughts on death, or your reaction to it - all is welcome.

Now I will indeed shut up about it, unless another graces this thread with participation.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far, or to whatever degree you did make it.

peace
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Re: Death

Postby MagsJ » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:11 pm

Shut up Ben! :D
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Death

Postby MagsJ » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:20 pm

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Death visits me sometimes, or tries to at least..
but is only able to loiter.. for a short while..
..and yet, I don’t think about it much.. if at all..
even though death seems to like the look of me,
..and so be compelled to visit, from time to time.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Death

Postby Ben JS » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:23 pm

Hey Mags - thanks for being here, friend.

MagsJ wrote:Death visits me sometimes, or tries to at least..
but is only able to loiter.. for a short while..
..and yet, I don’t think about it much.. if at all..
even though death seems to like the look of me,
..and so be compelled to visit, from time to time.


This gives me the feeling of death as an old acquaintance.
Who crosses paths with us, from time to time, before the big meeting.
But one lives their busy life, and soon forgets about the visits at all.

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Thanks for sharing.. a very lovely read.

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A eulogy - How Did They Live? wrote:Not how did they die, but how did they live?
Not what did they gain, but what did they give?
These are the units to measure the worth
Of a person as a person, regardless of birth.
Not, what was their church, nor what was their creed?
But had they befriended those really in need?
Were they ever ready, with word of good cheer,
To bring back a smile, to banish a tear?
Not what did the sketch in the newspaper say,
But how many were sorry when they passed away.

Charlie Daniels' - A Brief Candle wrote:A brief candle; both ends burning
An endless mile; a bus wheel turning
A friend to share the lonesome times
A handshake and a sip of wine
So say it loud and let it ring
We are all a part of everything
The future, present and the past
Fly on proud bird
You’re free at last.

James S. Saint wrote:No one is actually afraid of death itself. What people are afraid of is loss. Loss comes and goes as does gain. So if you are going to make peace with something make peace with the tides coming and going concerning gain and loss.

But never fight a battle until you have already won it. In that effort, you will make mistakes and have to try again from your new situation that you hadn't intended. But equally never presume that a loss really is a loss until the losing is already over, because equally, you will make mistakes in presuming a loss before your game was really over. At all times attend to the reality of the actual situation without presumption and you will be as alive as anyone could be. There isn't actually any room in the living mind for death to earn attention.
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Re: Death

Postby MagsJ » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:21 pm

Ben JS wrote:Hey Mags - thanks for being here, friend.

MagsJ wrote:Death visits me sometimes, or tries to at least..
but is only able to loiter.. for a short while..
..and yet, I don’t think about it much.. if at all..
even though death seems to like the look of me,
..and so be compelled to visit, from time to time.
This gives me the feeling of death as an old acquaintance.
Who crosses paths with us, from time to time, before the big meeting.

Too often.. for comfort’s sake.

My doctor said that that was something I would have to think about and come to terms with.. and I (subconsciously) did exactly that today, and my optimism came flooding back, and my joie de vivre.. along with it.

But one lives their busy life, and soon forgets about the visits at all.

When I’m on the periphery, I pour a very very large rum and take to my bed, where I remain until such a time arrives that I am no longer on the periphery. Tho I haven’t experienced the phenomena for some months now. :D
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ
I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Death

Postby Meno_ » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:36 pm

Hello guys. In my humble opinion , There is NO death. Only in the mind.


And that opinion comes closest by people who take spirits just before it's supposed to happen, and let's remember the close association between 'spirits' and 'souls'.
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