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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby promethean75 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:44 pm

Dan's firm but fair... and not just with his girlfriend.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:46 pm

Nunchucks are just a stick with some give, that's all they are prom.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby promethean75 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:50 pm

I believe they evolved from a farming tool used to cut sugarcane or rice or something.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:02 pm

We're talking about their practical application in battle here.

And anyway, do you really imagine a bunch of chinamen swinging nunchaku scythes around when they can use a much simpler stick which pace they can easily control?
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:10 pm

prom get the chucks out we need a demo
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby promethean75 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:27 pm

Extravagant displays of weaponry skills before one's enemy should only precede an immediate combat situation for the purposes of intimidation. Other than that, a warriors capabilities should remain secret so that he remains unpredictable to the enemy. I would not want pedro to be able to study my technique on that account. In fact I should remove the video immediately.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Dan~ » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:37 pm

promethean75 wrote:Dan's firm but fair... and not just with his girlfriend.

Right now i have no girlfriend ._.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:41 pm

Dan~ wrote:
promethean75 wrote:Dan's firm but fair... and not just with his girlfriend.

Right now i have no girlfriend ._.


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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:42 pm

promethean75 wrote:Extravagant displays of weaponry skills before one's enemy should only precede an immediate combat situation for the purposes of intimidation. Other than that, a warriors capabilities should remain secret so that he remains unpredictable to the enemy. I would not want pedro to be able to study my technique on that account. In fact I should remove the video immediately.


I already have an accurate estimate of your abilities.

It is too late for that.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby promethean75 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:53 pm

Not if I become formless... shapeless, like watuh, my friend.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:45 pm

promethean75 wrote:Extravagant displays of weaponry skills before one's enemy should only precede an immediate combat situation for the purposes of intimidation. Other than that, a warriors capabilities should remain secret so that he remains unpredictable to the enemy. I would not want pedro to be able to study my technique on that account. In fact I should remove the video immediately.


no i want a demo of you using the chunks to harvest grain
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby iambiguous » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:16 pm

Note to the "yak yak yak" crowd:

This is the philosophy board. Smears created a thread for yakking: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 2&t=179879

See you there. 8)
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby iambiguous » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:48 pm

Zeroeth Nature wrote:So there are no slums with glue-sniffing kids getting organ-harvested in Brazil anymore?


Some parts of it:

https://youtu.be/RfnGQetbX-U
https://youtu.be/XeN0t2sZaP4
https://youtu.be/V26Pogm8ktk
https://youtu.be/xGubnVYQUck
https://youtu.be/1m5gxQh5jeo
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:56 am

phoneutria wrote:nope I am not confounding way of life with life
i'm straight up saying that abandoning my way of life equals death
my culture is me and i am my culture and that is what i live for
and to ponder on whether my way of life is really all that great
is the same as to ponder on whether my life is all that great


Who really knows what she means by this. At least until she offers some descriptive details of what her "way of life" entails from day to day, week to week, month to month...year to year?

After all, lots and lots of different people living in very different historical and very different cultural contexts can say the same thing.

And to what extent is someone's "way of life" merely the manner in which as children they were indoctrinated to think of it as everyone else does?

And what does it mean when she comes upon those who were indoctrinated to internalize completely different "ways of life"? And their value judgments come into conflict. In other words, to what extent is a "way of life" merely the embodiment of a particular set of customs, rituals, folkways, mores, laws?

How might "I" then be understood to be but an extension of any particular ethnocentric "we"...separate from [and superior to] all that are deemed to be "other"?

It is the reaction of people like this that are of most interest to me insofar as they are willing to consider the points I raise in my signature threads.
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:27 am

Zeroeth Nature wrote:Well, that's good to hear. By the way, I didn't ask if my way of life was really all that great; just yours (plural). After all, you spoke of "our old way of life", which I took to mean the traditional Brazilian way of life.


well, the traditional brazilian way of life (as I see it)
is families with little ranches who grow their subsistence and barter the excess
and it has always been a very informal thing
but there is always an expectation of trust
perhaps it is the informal nature of our commerce
that might have given way for corruption to become so pervasive
(i am speculating here)
as rules and regulations are enacted to impose upon these informal trades
and people find ways to bypass them
and if taken to the extreme
they become this pervasive culture of conducting businesses under the table
and it's looked away, ignored, taken to be a part of how things are done, left unpunished
i suppose the place where I find myself in conflict with my compatriots
because this is not what I mean by the old way of life
i want that trust to exist
the earnestness of doing things proper
even while I think those regulations shouldn't exist to begin with
all they do is create the environment for corruption to exist
(save for some exceptions)
but anyway I am probably talking to myself here nobody cares about brazil
whatever


I was. So there are no slums with glue-sniffing kids getting organ-harvested in Brazil anymore?


of course there are
do you not have drug addicts in the Netherlands?

yeah we have slums and we have poverty
even though we just came out of 14 years of rule by Lula and Dilma Roussef's socialist party
and truth be told there isn't a single properly conservative party in Brazil
not sure if there has ever been one
i mean there was the military dictatorship
but i guess were were more facist like than conservative
I don't know, don't quote me on that
but yea
even the most right leaning politicians here
would look like flag waving communists to an american
so I dunno pretty amazing how we still have all this poor people right?
i mean, if the socialists have the right idea

so maybe if we can't keep people from stealing
it might be the better option to just take all their power away
let everything be run by companies that are competing with one another
so they're forced to provide good service for the least cost to get the clients
and tell most of these career criminals in public office to fuck off once and for all
might be worth the shot since the other alternative has had plenty of time to show that it failed

but lol no the organ harvesting thing is bullshit
murder here is the same as everywhere
it gets investigated and the suspects get a trial and all that
that said
if you want to willingly sell a kidney
given the above about informal trade
i can probably hook you up with someone on the down low

i am joking ollie, laugh goddamit


Well, I'm not so sure about that last bit. You have a very cynical view of your enemies, I think. Anyway, yes: let Bolsonaro combat the corruption! You guys have my blessing, in that regard at least.


nonsense
i also have a very cynical view of my friends
but anyway i'll take those blessings


Because of the difference in scale, yes.


so my point was
governments have always been the greatest purveyors of war
in fact wars are one of the main pathways to funneling public money into private hands
which is why they love it
i mean in the US, just because the politicians aren't literally stuffing money in their underwear
that doesn't mean they're walking out with nothing
when they contract all our money away to lockheed martin and boeing
so I think you only fear mobs more than you fear governments
cuz you don't live in one of dem ass backwards sand nigger countries where they offshore the wars to nowadays
(yes that was a hillbilly impersonation again, lighten up)


Still a bad map.


the reason i posted that was to show that:
1. europeans are hypocrites
2. europeans don't care about the environment
3. europeans use the media for propaganda

your only response to that was that it is a bad map
does that mean you concede to those points
or that you do not care to disprove them?

Right, let Bolsonaro do that instead...

No, I meant the shaming tactics.


let Bolsonaro... shame Brazil... into protecting the Amazon?
sorry that makes no sense


that's it?
is that all you have to say to all that?
did you forget to add something along the lines of
"indeed it does appear as though the G7 is completely full of shit"?


Nope.


well
see 3 points above


I believe Nietzsche when he says, "nobody lies as much as the indignant do.—" (BGE 26.)


indeed!
so tell us what's up with ollie
that he's so indignant these days?
getting into piss fights online...
jeez


Nice tactic, turning things back around on me. But I'm not indignant. I mean, on the non-meta-plane I may act indignant, but that's simply the logic of my new political position. On the meta-plane I'm perfectly Zen...


heck me too i'm zen as fuck
thing is
you sounded like you wanted to say something harsh about bolsonaro
but then you didn't bring actual criticism forward
other than some very vague emotional opposition
and you also ignored most of what i posted to counter some of that
so I gotta wonder whether you don't care about the subject as much as you made it sound
or you just don't know what you're talking about
in any case
if you prefer to leave it as it is
namaste, biatch
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:28 am

promethean75 wrote:Not if I become formless... shapeless, like watuh, my friend.



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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:31 am

lol that reminded me of that stupid parody vid of the matrix with the fart sounds
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:38 am

just popping in here to vote for nunchuck videos in this thread
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:40 am

fuck yeah
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby phoneutria » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:52 am

*starts a faint chant*
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:14 am

"yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak"

"yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak"

"yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak"


You know, once they get started :lol:
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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:16 am

shut up loser this is a numchuck thread now

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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:22 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:shut up loser this is a numchuck thread now



He asked for it!!

I'm sitting on my couch, watching a video of the alabama/lsu game while smoking a bong and waiting for chinese food to be delivered. I was thinking of getting someone over here to clean the place. This is usually what I'm doing, I've seen this game about 130-140 times now. Or I'm in the bathroom someplace, bored and using my phone to post on message boards while I poop.

I'm sitting on my couch, watching a video of the alabama/lsu game while smoking a bong and waiting for chinese food to be delivered. I was thinking of getting someone over here to clean the place. This is usually what I'm doing, I've seen this game about 130-140 times now. Or I'm in the bathroom someplace, bored and using my phone to post on message boards while I poop.

I'm sitting on my couch, watching a video of the alabama/lsu game while smoking a bong and waiting for chinese food to be delivered. I was thinking of getting someone over here to clean the place. This is usually what I'm doing, I've seen this game about 130-140 times now. Or I'm in the bathroom someplace, bored and using my phone to post on message boards while I poop.

I'm sitting on my couch, watching a video of the alabama/lsu game while smoking a bong and waiting for chinese food to be delivered. I was thinking of getting someone over here to clean the place. This is usually what I'm doing, I've seen this game about 130-140 times now. Or I'm in the bathroom someplace, bored and using my phone to post on message boards while I poop.

I'm sitting on my couch, watching a video of the alabama/lsu game while smoking a bong and waiting for chinese food to be delivered. I was thinking of getting someone over here to clean the place. This is usually what I'm doing, I've seen this game about 130-140 times now. Or I'm in the bathroom someplace, bored and using my phone to post on message boards while I poop.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: phoneutria and iambiguous don't contend

Postby Zeroeth Nature » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:55 am

First off, Dan, thanks for taking your moderating job seriously.

Second, I want to make some things clear. To begin with, here are some things I already posted on page 1 of this thread:

Zeroeth Nature wrote:
If human beings suddenly became rational, a population of billions—which I consider completely ridiculous in any case—might indeed be sustainable. But if anything, it's irrationality that's on the rise. Therefore, the population needs to go down, and fast. And I'm not in the first place thinking of the Chinese, the Indians, or the Muslims...

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html
(The 1%'s ecological footprint is as large as that of the world's poorest 50% or something.)

The species requires the sacrifice of individuals on a large scale—especially now. Getting 7+ billion people to live sustainably is a pipe dream.

Against white Christians, for white Christmases.


What I wish to make clear is the following. One reason why I'm in the first place thinking of white people is that, otherwise, things would be too easy; and another, that it's the least politically incorrect—which is not something I care about directly, but which may make it easier to gain people's approval... (The second of these reasons is meant to at least somewhat balance out the first.) But the main reason is that Christians should be the first to go, and then especially Protestants:

On the night of November 11th, I wrote:[P]erhaps the poorer "Christians" are the more "real" they are, but ultimately all of "Christendom" is fake except those very rare people (by no means necessarily culturally "Christian") who are truly Christlike. Why? For two reasons: 1) Catholicism, whether Roman or Orthodox, "is precisely that against which Jesus preached—and against which he taught his disciples to fight" (Nietzsche, WP 168); and 2) the further a "Christian" deviates from Catholicism—into Protestantism for example—, the less of a true believer he becomes: for a true believer does not need reasons to believe or not to believe, in relics and rituals for instance. Thus Nietzsche, whose father and both of whose grandfathers were Protestant parsons by the way, writes:

"The Protestant parson is the grandfather of German philosophy, Protestantism itself its peccatum originale [=original sin]. Definition of Protestantism: the hemiplegia [=paralysis of one half] of Christianity—and of reason... [...] One should be harder on Protestants than on Catholics, harder on liberal Protestants than on true believers [strenggläubige]. The criminal nature of being a Christian increases with the extent to which one approaches science. Consequently the criminal of criminals is the [Christian] philosopher." (The Antichrist.)


Now of course Protestants tend to be white, whereas Catholics tend to be brown (among which "race" I've decided to include the Portuguese, the Spanish, and even the Italians). And yes, I know there are many black Christians as well.

What will probably happen, though, is that hundreds of millions of poor blacks, poor browns, poor Chinese, poor Indians, poor Muslims, etc. are sacrificed first, just because it's easier. And that's not insurmountable for me, as long as the Christian ideal is utterly and completely destroyed, too:

"One should never forgive Christianity for having destroyed such men as Pascal. One should never cease from combating just this in Christianity: its will to break precisely the strongest and noblest souls. One should never rest as long as this one thing has not been utterly and completely destroyed: the ideal of man invented by Christianity." (Nietzsche, WP 252.)

"I regard Christianity as the most fatal seductive lie that has yet existed, as the great unholy lie: I draw out the after-growth and sprouting of its ideal from beneath every form of disguise, I reject every compromise position with respect to it—I force a war against it.
Petty people's morality as the measure of things: this is the most disgusting degeneration culture has yet exhibited. And this kind of ideal still hanging over mankind as 'God'!!" (WP 200.)

Lastly, for now, what about Judaism? After all, at the bottom of page 6 of this thread, I said:

'I'm against objectivists like Trump whose actions threaten to bring an end to the Holocene (and thereby to the ideal conditions for human life on earth, not to mention many other species). And the roots of this anti-life movement lie in Christianity, which gave rise to the countermovement to itself called modernity, with its technology that's led to global warming etc.'

Don't the roots of Christianity lie in Judaism? Well, yes, and in Platonism of course. In fact, the roots of Judaism as we know it, itself lie in Plato! And indeed, all of Platonism has to go—exoteric Platonism, that is. And, for that matter, exoteric Vedanta and the like as well (see BGE Preface), what with its belief in eternal souls! (I consider myself an esoteric Vedantika as well as an esoteric Platonist: for me, Atman = Anatta and Brahman = Sunyata.) So in a way it's not so bad if large numbers of poor, simple Hindus and Muslims are sacrificed first. But as for the Jews:

"Some Christian or post-Christian form of monotheism, and with it the death of serious politics, has triumphed everywhere during the last two millennia. If isolated pockets of warrior piety exist today they are pitied as 'backward' or 'underdeveloped' peoples, that is, people whose 'sexist', 'chauvinist' or 'racist' prejudices require replacement by Christian-liberal ideals. The Jews, and only the Jews, never were reconciled to this replacement. They remained aware of the terrifying emptiness of apolitical, cosmopolitan solutions. Nietzsche believed that the Jewish instinct constituted by this illiberal awareness prevented whole-hearted acceptance of any religious or secularized monotheism. For the Jews, monotheism never was more than a means to return to polytheism's serious (political) world." (Neumann, "The Case Against Liberalism", emphasis mine.)

"Although victorious Judaism had one main war-god, it acknowledged that other peoples had their gods and it itself had various lesser gods. This polytheism was a luxury which defeated Judaism no longer could afford. It desperately required an omnipotent god who could create ex nihilo, transforming ultimate political annihilation and degradation into salvation. Since this god could not be limited by anything outside himself, he must be the one omnipotent god. [...]
Since the monotheism needed to restore the old political polytheism reduces everything, including that polytheism, to nothing, even—and especially—it cannot restore the old warrior piety. Under monotheism, nothing is more than a toy to be willfully created or destroyed by divine omnipotence. Nothing is serious because politics no longer is serious. Apparently omnipotent monotheism can do anything except create a world in which warring political gods can be taken seriously. At best, such creation is childish amusement." (ibid.)

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