Nihilism is a psychological reaction to reality.promethean75 wrote:if 'nihilism' were an objective phenomena and accessible to scientific inquiry, you'd be able to pin it down like you want and say something intelligible about it. but because it represents something only explicable through one philosophical narrative or another, what it 'means' can be any number of things.
Skepticism is warranted in everything, because there is no absolute and so no possibility of omniscience.all one can do is find the most common features of the available narratives and use those as a very limited, very generalized description. if you wanted only to do this, instead of constructing grand narratives about it (which for the above reasons is a waste of time), you'd simply describe a nihilist as someone who doesn't believe that a vast majority of philosophical statements are true. moreover, that even considering those that are true, they still provide no definitive guidance for human action.
there are natural nihilists and then there are seasoned nihilists. the natural nihilists never had the capacity to recognize the confusion inherent to the philosophical language game and begins as a skeptic (without knowing how that skepticism is warranted). the seasoned nihilist has 'been there and done that', has intimate experience with the philosophical language game, and then finally steps back from it with a genuine understanding of why that is a reasonable thing to do.
You have no power to shut anything down. you are merely a gadfly - Will to Powerlessness.promethean75 wrote:Yuo have no power to shuit anything down.
You but keep in mind that all this stuff is at the level of propositions - a nihilist is critical of the proposition to produce any certainty beyond the immediacy of experience, as well as the problem of the epiphenomenal nature of qualia (that they have no causal effect on actions) - and as such one doesn't 'act' like a nihilist. meaning, you cannot spot a nihilist and say his apparant behavior is because he believes x. therefore, a nihilist is indistinguishable from anyone else. a nihilist certainly does 'act as if there are values' and 'find things very much meaningful.' only, he doesn't bother himself with explaining of justifying any of this because to do so would involve the implication of the very thing he dismisses; the philosophical narrative.
don't mean to shut this thread down before it even gets started, but there is nothing more to it than what I've explained.
Are you s...sure?Karpel Tunnel wrote:Student of S or S himself?
That those are the options? No. Wanna answer?Aegean wrote:Are you s...sure?Karpel Tunnel wrote:Student of S or S himself?
Aegean wrote:Answer what question?
Student of S or S himself?
Well, that's an answer, actuallly, thanks.Aegean wrote:I don't speak geek code.
I don't even know what 's' means.
A letter?
Spiderman?
Superman?
Schopenhauer?
Gotta check in on your various 'its' in the sentence. The nihilist projects into reality the absolute that his own philosophy denies the possibility of?Aegean wrote:An organism rejects fluctuating ordered/chaotic energies to begin the process of self-organizing, we call life.
Skin/membrane, exoskeleton the flexible 'boundary' of its continuous repulsion of undesired other.
Self-consciousness emerges as a separation of ego - lucid self - from self - unconscious, automated processes. Detachment of mind, or part of mind, from body, which is the start of nihilism.
What is nihilism?
The defensive reaction to reality, projecting into it what it denies existence to, i.e., the absolute.
Yes. the noetic is projected into reality to "correct" its absence.Karpel Tunnel wrote:Gotta check in on your various 'its' in the sentence. The nihilist projects into reality the absolute that his own philosophy denies the possibility of?Aegean wrote:An organism rejects fluctuating ordered/chaotic energies to begin the process of self-organizing, we call life.
Skin/membrane, exoskeleton the flexible 'boundary' of its continuous repulsion of undesired other.
Self-consciousness emerges as a separation of ego - lucid self - from self - unconscious, automated processes. Detachment of mind, or part of mind, from body, which is the start of nihilism.
What is nihilism?
The defensive reaction to reality, projecting into it what it denies existence to, i.e., the absolute.
I don't know which one you label #2.IOW 'it' nr. 1 refers 'reality', 'it' nr. 2 refers to nihilism?
by nihilists, not, say, religious people?Aegean wrote:Yes. the noetic is projected into reality to "correct" its absence.
IOW 'it' nr. 1 refers 'reality', 'it' nr. 2 refers to nihilism?
I don't know which one you label #2.
The second it, the red one.The defensive reaction to reality, projecting into it what it denies existence to, i.e., the absolute.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:by nihilists, not, say, religious people?Aegean wrote:Yes. the noetic is projected into reality to "correct" its absence.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:The second it, the red one.The defensive reaction to reality, projecting into it what it denies existence to, i.e., the absolute.
He concludes with a defensive annihilation of all ideas as equally in error, and because there are no absolutes he easily finds a gap to exploit and to dismiss all ideas.
In the either/or dichotomy of simplistic binary logic, what even animals are capable of, the dilemmas arise, and the solutions presents themselves as emotional appeals, and moral options.
The Nihilist taking the only thing he can understand, his own absolutes, his own emotions, and simplicity as a guiding light, assumes that whenever a superior probability is presented it is an expression of an absolute certainty, or of an omniscient truth.
This is also a defensive method, dismissing all superior perspectives on the ground that they are not absolute truths, or accusing them of proposing an absolute truth which is indefensible.
Now their own simplicity can hide behind the common ground of imperfection, for that which is not perfect must be equal.
Either/Or.
With no omniscience, no God, all is relative.
Degrees vanish in relation to a fluctuating world.
All is either/or, and since what is left is nil, then some settle for nil, while the majority, of the more hypocritical kind of Nihilist, settle for emotional justifications - in the absence of absolute knowledge, the deciding factor are emotional.,
Here, because emotions are shared, common, base, all find congruence in the lowest-common-denominator or they are monsters with evil intents.
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