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Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:23 am
by thinkdr
I am not forcing anything on anybody.
Anyone who has read my writings - a few of which are referred to below in the signature - knows this is true. The theory of Ethics that I have helped to create advocates, and demonstrates the logic of, Autonomy, and individuality. It stresses how we are all, and each, unique. It shows that autonomy is one of the highest values.

If, as you note, shared worker ownership has been around for a long time, and the past deserves some respect, then why smear its Federation's promotional output, as "communist propaganda."
That is the kind of conduct we associate with former disgraced Senator Joseph McCarthy.

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:26 am
by obsrvr524
Children - the primary target of social justice warriors - are not given choice.

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:43 am
by thinkdr
obsrvr524 wrote:Children - the primary target of social justice warriors - are not given choice.


Those who don't give children a choice have authoritarian tendencies.

The Unified Theory of Ethics, when applied to parenting, recommends giving every child a choice.

Some comments here seem to be irrelevant to the topic ...which is Ethics applied to Economics.

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 am
by obsrvr524
thinkdr wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:Children - the primary target of social justice warriors - are not given choice.


Those who don't give children a choice have authoritarian tendencies.

Now you're catching on - maybe - aren't you the one saying that ethics should be a primary or high school course? - guess who is going to be teaching such courses - it isn't going to be you.

thinkdr wrote:Some comments here seem to be irrelevant to the topic ...which is Ethics applied to Economics.

Perhaps but you are the one who brought up objection to the issue of forced ethics - in economics - which begins with earlier programming of children and naive university students - along with their overwhelming communistic ethics brainwashing.

I don't think we can separate all of these things. We are living through a modern age world war - global authoritarianism vs national democracy. So far - democracy has almost entirely lost the game - the USA is no longer a republic - millions of people have been murdered in the war - millions more expected to be murdered by the apparent victor (all the while you have been sitting here in this quiet corner of the world - for years apparently - trying to sell your book on ethics).

Is it even economically ethical to ignore the reality of the world all around you just to sell a book?

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:00 pm
by thinkdr
Since I am not "trying to sell my book"; instead I offer links to my writings so that they can be read for free.

And since, observr has so much to express that is not exactly about Economics when systematic Ethics theory is applied to it,

And since observr has no idea what is denoted when I use the word "Ethics", and thus we are not communicating after all this time,

we may conclude that it is now time for observr to get his own thread.

The alternative is that he (continues to) hijack this one.



...Who needs such condescending remarks such as, and I quote him:
Now you're catching on

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:24 am
by thinkdr
Please remove - mistaken duplication occurred..........

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:37 am
by thinkdr
The title of this thread implies a question: What is the economic system that results when ethics is applied to the subject of economics?
Assuming you know what is meant by the word “economics,” the question then arises: What is meant by the term “Ethics” as Dr. Katz, a student of the profound philosopher, Robert S. Hartman, uses the term?
A good theory of Ethics will cover such topics as Morality, Integrity, Social Responsibility, Conscience, and Character formation.

WHAT IS ETHICS?
Ethics, as understood by the writer in the paper to which I a about to present a link,is the discipline that arises when persons are viewed as unique, as of high value, and as having a story to tell. They are seen as special in their own special way. {Admittedly, this is a novel usage. Yet as the new paradigm for Ethics is introduced in the following link, http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... CIENCE.pdf - [24 ages if printed out on both sides of each page]
the reader will see why it is reasonable to name it: Ethics.}
I wrote that paper about 20 years ago. Note also that the Unified Theory of Ethics has greatly evolved since then, as you can tell by getting acquainted with the more-recent items cited below in the References that follow.
The word “science” in the title of this 20-year-old essay is used in the original sense -according to its roots in ancient times - where it refers to something worth knowing. These days, I explain that the experimental branch of Ethics is Moral Psychology -- a field also known as The Science of the Moral Sense. The research done, alluded to in the opening paragraph, was done by these Moral Psychologists. See the article on this topic in Wikipedia. And tell us if you learned anything valuable when you proceeded to check out these links:

Your comments are welcome!

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:25 am
by thinkdr
Here, is a late-breaking update in the news:

Be sure to stay up to date by reading this report.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/97365371 ... tudy-finds

A scientific study found that the Stockton, California experiment really paid off.

Is it possible that giving people money is an efficient way to end poverty, not just temporarily, but more-permanently?
Is money the answer to lack of start-up capital?


Tell us your impressions of the findings contained in this report.


For details on the national program that gave the Mayor of Stockton the idea, see:
https://nationalseedproject.org/

For arguments on both sides of the issue, see
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2020 ... -everybody

I agree with Observr on the values of work; yet I want everyone of love their job. That would truly be Ethics applied to Economics.

Comments? Questions?

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:27 pm
by Alf
obsrvr524 wrote:... programming of children and naive university students - along with their overwhelming communistic ethics brainwashing.

That's the point.

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:55 pm
by thinkdr
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There are three major economic systems that prevail in the world today.

Regulated Capitalism, as is found in the United States, Britain, and most European countries.

State Capitalism (also known as Communist Capitalism) as seen in China and Vietnam.

Gangster Capitalism, which they have in Russia and in Hungary, where oligarchs comprise the administration that runs the country.


We recently (in 2020) came very close to getting Gangster Capitalism in the Unites States.


Your views?

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:58 pm
by Great Again
thinkdr wrote:.

There are three major economic systems that prevail in the world today.

Regulated Capitalism, as is found in the United States, Britain, and most European countries.

State Capitalism (also known as Communist Capitalism) as seen in China and Vietnam.

Gangster Capitalism, which they have in Russia and in Hungary, where oligarchs comprise the administration that runs the country.


We recently (in 2020) came very close to getting Gangster Capitalism in the Unites States.


Your views?

Not every economic system is capitalist, and capitalism does not necessarily have to do with the real economy.

There is no such thing as regulated capitalism, but only a system controlled by monopoly capitalists, in which the financial system forms its own system.

State capitalism is a mixture of capitalism and communism in that the state - the government - is capitalist, but commands communism from the non-governing.

Gangster capitalism can be both monopoly capitalism and state capitalism. Classical capitalism exists only for the middle class, which is why it is fought, exploited by monopoly capitalism (upper class) and by state capitalism (upper class) as well as by commanded communism (lower class). This will later lead to a new feudalism, has already done so in part.

By the way, you have confused Hungary with Belarus or Ukraine.

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:04 pm
by thinkdr
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Here are three links showing results of research done at the Wharton School of Economics and Business:

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/art ... ic-income/


https://www.sp2.upenn.edu/discover/pres ... the-answer


https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/i ... c-modeling



Your discussion of these findings? Tell us your views….

Re: Ethics applied to Economics

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:24 pm
by thinkdr
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Here are three links showing results of research done at the Wharton School of Economics and Business:

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/art ... ic-income/


https://www.sp2.upenn.edu/discover/pres ... the-answer


https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/i ... c-modeling

These studies are an excellent contribution to both The Philosophy of Economics and to Applied Ethics.



Your discussion of these findings? Tell us your views….