The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

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Does life make sense?

Yes.
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No.
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I don't know.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 3:39 am

You're a fucking idiot.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby James S Saint » Fri May 13, 2016 4:09 am

Random Factor wrote:You're a fucking idiot.

Says the comic strip philosopher.
:lol:
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 1:01 pm

You're an idiot because for all of your mocking and claims that I only embrace fantasy, i have more rational thought backing up all that I do than you will ever have. And now, people know you're not as stupid as you've been pretending to be.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby James S Saint » Fri May 13, 2016 1:07 pm

Random Factor wrote:You're an idiot because for all of your mocking and claims that I only embrace fantasy, i have more rational thought backing up all that I do than you will ever have.

Care to debate one of those "more rational" thoughts .. ON THE PROPER THREAD (if you can muster up the maturity)?

..such as that silliness about "1+1=2"?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 2:12 pm

No, I don't care to have any further conversations with you unless it becomes unavoidable.

You're the one who brought up the silliness of 1+1=2. I showed 3 examples where that wasn't always true and you proceeded to tell me that I existed only in fantasy and you refused to have any further theories to add to it, or anything solid to back it up. You continued to engage me in verbal battle and improperly placed your 'attacks' against my character. You became ambiguous about just what you believe in, clouded and murked up the thread in the process and when called on your shit, continued to try to make yourself look better by tearing me down without having anything actual to stand upon, hoping to throw confusion of the observers into the mix.

Regardless of your claims, you allowed your emotion to trump any bit of rational thought and the only reason you exercised was aimed towards knocking me down.

Tell me, because I assume that this is true: Do I put off such an air of superiority that you and others feel the need to knock what you perceive as ego out of me? Do I argue so well with thoughts beyond what you're used to that you feel the need to 'humble' me by placing me below you? Because, if that is the case, it's faulty practice. If you didn't put that much thought into it, you at least noted where I hit close to the mark with my assessments and my own retorts which were not attacks against your character but pinpointing truth and your reasons/motives for responding to me the way you do. At the point of being so trumped up on your own thoughts to believe yourself to be superior, as evidenced by how you respond, why do you then seek to deflate mine other than misperceiving my statements as an attack against you?

And, at the point of stating that I am doing the same; misperceiving your gestures as attacks against me, what is there to actually detract from that assessment when you fail to have anything solid philosophically to stand upon? And, if you can misperceive me as having an ego the same as yours and that I am doing the same, certainly you can understand that with such attacks of character as you've launched at me and others have launched at me, that this is an impossibility.

I get the feeling that due to your own negativity, bias, limited perception and perspective based in negativity, bias, ego, etc. that you and others do perceive me to be the same as you in that regard. And, there is nothing that I can do to convince you otherwise because you do not see yourselves as wrong.

I have asked you and others several times that if I am wrong, correct me. You do not. You continue to attack me. Instead of proving me wrong, you prove me right at least in the analysis of your characters and of my theories in psychology; which are not the joy and highlight of my philosophies or theories. I would rather talk about the universe, about things beyond the physical aspect of the world which are just as true and do tie into how our physical reality works just the same as the physical reality ties into those things and how they work. You would call them fantasy and imagination and that IS what is taught by modern society, but there is just a bit too much reality in those things for me to believe that to be true and furthermore, to allow you and others to bully and peer pressure into ceasing and desisting the believing of them or bringing them forward or to believe that they are as silly as you claim.

That I can tie these things together and bring them more into reality and think realistically at the same time as entertaining them is evidenced throughout my every action and reaction. I am not just a daydreamer with my head in the clouds imagining stuff just to imagine it, being lost in 'fantasy' to the point where I can not deal with and respond to the reality in front of my eyes. How you respond and how you react is evidence of this and evidence of you denying whatever truth is there because I accurately analyzed it, assessed it, and called you on it. If that wasn't the truth and if you were a truthful person; like me; you would defend the truth of yourself, you would actually want to and you would correct me as I asked you to with actual material instead of roundabout attacks meant to detract from the situation, drag off topic; out of context; and try to make me look bad by sounding reasonable and wise and knowledgeable when you hold motives and do abuse knowledge of psychology to do so.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 2:27 pm

It becomes obvious through interacting with you, how you dropped philosophy; how you dropped thinking about anything other than bringing me down; that your main priority was to attack me, that you did not value anything that you brought forward or anything else that was said, either by you or by me. You do not value philosophy or knowledge if you can not put it to practical use directly, it is a toy-thing to you, something you don't take seriously. You dropped every single thing to attack me personally, to tear apart my character, to try to speak me into being stupid, into backing down and put all of your energy into that instead of actually providing the proof of what you were saying or adding more to the conversation to back up your exact thoughts on the philosophical thoughts that were brought forth. You reduced yourself to insults and such completely.

Why should I wish to further engage you in philosophical conversation or debate at such a point?
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Only_Humean » Fri May 13, 2016 2:51 pm

RF warned for ad hom. James, any more responding in kind will meet the same fate.

Please keep things civil.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 3:32 pm

Fuck off. You couldn't moderate an argument between a cat and a plastic bag, or a dog and a wet paper bag. I don't respect you or any of the other mods here. Why don't you follow carleas' example and just do nothing? Why do you fault those who are in the right, who have every right to freedom of speech and expression and why do you lump them in the same boat as the faulty? Don't warn me next time... Just ban me and make it permanent instead of adding faulty and inconsistent moderation and mediation to the mix. You got that, or do I have to break it down for you?
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 3:42 pm

Go ahead, 'make an example' of me, you piece of shit. You argue on other accounts and when it doesn't go your way, you hop on you moderator account and warn or ban.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby zinnat » Fri May 13, 2016 3:42 pm

See RF, that was precisely why I took a step back from you in the other thread. I realized that with what attitude you were having, it would lead to you getting warned or may be banned, sooner or later. And, I did not want that burden on my shoulder.

RF, there are three ways of interacting with anyone: listening, discussing and arguing. You cannot do any two at the same time. So, decide what exactly you want to do, and act and also expect accordingly.

RF, take a pause and calm down.

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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 3:56 pm

You don't understand, I don't want to be here. I am forced to be here as these bastards try in every way to drag me down. Its fate, momentum of immaterial motion. I want conversation, I'm not getting it. All I get is repeated strains of the same bullshit. You might say that since I don't want to be here, to just leave and its not that simple. You might similarly ask me who is forcing me to be here and there are a variety of answers with proof not accepted by the masses. I am tired of government agencies, of supernatural agencies working in similar ways, tired and sick of all this and they call me weak and pussy for taking and making a stand and you don't care. No one here gives a shit, so fuck them, fuck it. Call me a traitor, call me a terrorist, but I would support all those against you and those agencies that seek to control and keep others down and claim good things to be the same all because we have to be because they will not listen to truth and reason, refuse to budge and would destroy all that is still good just to shut it up and get their spoiled way. Fuck the 'free' eternity.
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(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 3:59 pm

You all pretend to know more than me, all pretend to give sound advice just to look good. You're not actually good, you u just care more about the appearance while you play it safe. You all can fuck off and die, for all I care.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby zinnat » Fri May 13, 2016 4:14 pm

RF,

Believe me, no one considers you a traitor or a terrorist here. Throw these things out of your mind.

Right now, logout from ILP and look for anything else on the net, and come back tomorrow with fresh mind.

Do not make any post now.

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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 5:01 pm

And yet I am a traitor, guilty of treason within the metaconscious mind and I am a terrorist in label. Stop.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Amorphos » Fri May 13, 2016 7:56 pm

Mm

I did later state that God cannot cause causality ~ at least that after the initial creation causality would follow its own path wherever that goes or is taken e.g. by us.

God forgot to add consciences, his faux pas.


Conscience is different according to how different a given culture is. A worshipper of Thor might not think the same things are wrong as say a Christian, and their consciences would be clear as they are acting like brave warriors, rather than psychopaths.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Fri May 13, 2016 8:01 pm

What the hell do I have to do to get banned, here? Seriously. I badmouth the mods, badmouth the admin, talk shit to whoever talks shit to me or deserves it. Other people who don't even do a hundredth of what I do get warnings and bans and probably wonder what makes me so special, since they seemingly can't differentiate worth a shit, based on how they argue. Just get rid of me already and exalt the trolls and haters. Fuck.
(Reality isn't so kind. Everything doesn't work out the way you want it to. That's why...) As long as you don’t get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain.

(Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views.)

What do you think? To tell you the truth... I worry too much about what others think of me. I hate that side of me... That's why I didn't want anyone to get to know me. I wanted to hide that side of myself. I hate it.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 14, 2016 12:01 am

Do not derail this thread.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 14, 2016 12:03 am

Arminius wrote:What about LOVE?

What about POWER or the WILL TO POWER?
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 14, 2016 12:04 am

Only_Humean wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Only_Humean wrote:Before I answer... do you mean does it make sense/have a goal/etc to me, or does it have a sense/goal etc to be discovered?

As you will. I mean whether life makes sense or not. You can and should interpret it as you like, but you should explain it.


I think life can make sense, or can be confusing and senseless. I think there is sense to be found, purpose to be had. But I think that philosophy can obscure things, like the toddler asking "why?" - the sense and purpose is in the concrete and the doing, and not the abstraction and the conceptualisation. In this sense, I may be the opposite to some earlier posters.

Life, our existence, is the given with which we have to learn to cope. We need to think, and think well, to do so. But thinking well is not the purpose of living; living well is the goal of thinking.

I agree.

For me philosophy of life is the most important type of philosophy.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 14, 2016 12:13 am

James S Saint wrote:Logic is merely the proper use of language ("dialectics").

Yea.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat May 14, 2016 5:29 pm

Arminius wrote:The Meaning of Life.

Does life make sense? If so: What sense does it make?

Is there any purpose of life? If so: What purpose is it?

Is there any goal of life? If so: What goal is it?

Please explain how you interpret the meaning of life.


You're trying to fill a little cup with the whole ocean here.
You might want to narrow down your questions to dribbles and drops.

Aside from that, different days might have different answers.
Different individuals might have different answers.

The word is LEGIONS.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby mysterio448 » Sun May 15, 2016 9:48 am

Arminius wrote:The Meaning of Life.

Does life make sense? If so: What sense does it make?

Is there any purpose of life? If so: What purpose is it?

Is there any goal of life? If so: What goal is it?

Please explain how you interpret the meaning of life.


I explained the meaning of life in this thread: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=190317
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Mictlantecuhtli » Mon May 16, 2016 12:21 am

James S Saint wrote:
Random Factor wrote:You're a fucking idiot.

Says the comic strip philosopher.
:lol:


Be careful, that's a Super Saiyan you're messing with.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Mictlantecuhtli » Mon May 16, 2016 12:23 am

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Amor,

I've been reading the brains of criminals since I joined ILP. :lol: 8) No need to literally delve any deeper into criminal brains. :evilfun:



On-topic content: Yes, life makes perfect sense since it's all God's fault. God bred inhumanity into each and every human being. God forgot to add consciences, his faux pas.

One begins to question god's perfection or the perfection of his design.
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Re: The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Mon May 16, 2016 3:28 pm

Arminius,

Aside from the above, how do I myself interpret the meaning of life?

It's like a code which needs to be deciphered by us all individually. Once we have received the key to that code and "have it", its letters become re-scrambled and we then have to decipher it all over again.

Life's meaning is not written in stone. It changes for us all individually. It's flowing and pliable. We are the ones who have to make sense of it all, individually speaking. It's darkness and light at different times and sometimes it shades of gray, pretty or ugly shades of gray.

There are times when life makes absolutely no sense for me. Others are the catalysts which do this to us. Sometimes through our behavior and decisions we do this to ourselves. But life doesn't make sense to us - we are the ones to make sense of life. Sometimes life is nothing more than a glob of clay. We are the sculptors to mold that clay, to see what we ourselves can make of it - this sculpture which becomes Life's meaning.

What was it Freddie said (paraphrasing) that in order to give birth to a dancing star, we must have chaos in our lives. I love that saying of his.
Life is chaos and the dancing star which is born or reborn at times is the new meaning of life.

Again, we are the ones to give our lives or Life itself its sense.

Life's meanings are Legion and we are its legionnaires.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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