Ethics of special rights

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Ethics of special rights

Postby general1107 » Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:22 am

Do you think its fair that natives get special rights and subsidies such as being able to hunt or fish as much as they want as well as well as recieve subsidies from the government?
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Postby Impenitent » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:07 pm

no, it isn't fair, the entire continent should be returned to them immediately...

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Re: Ethics of special rights

Postby Philosophic Caveman » Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:16 am

general1107 wrote:Do you think its fair that natives get special rights and subsidies such as being able to hunt or fish as much as they want as well as well as recieve subsidies from the government?

I think you are confused. It is not about giving special rights. It is about righting wrongs. It is about returning soveriegn rights to the original owners of the land. It is about returning rights that were stripped away without any representation. In America, rights that were taken from native Amercians by our own unique form of colonialism that was called "Manifest Destiny". Colonialism was a powerful detructive force in world history for justifying cruelty and denial of basic human rights. This restoration of rights and compensation for past wrongs, is it ethical? How could it not be?

Protected classes of people are those who have been the victims of past injustices. In U.S. employment law, for example, this includes women, children, minorities, immigrants, elderly, etc. Those who do not fall into a protected class of people, were not the collective victims of past injustices, and therefore receive no special protections under the law. In U.S. employment law, this would be white, native born males between the ages of 18 and 65. They are not part a protected class because they were never the collective victims of injustice as a targeted group but rather were historically the benefactors of these injustices. When dealing with protected classes of people, U.S. employers are encouraged by law to take affirmative action to attract qualified employees from these protected classes. Whether such social engineering works, is another question, but whether it is ethical seems hardly to be debateable.
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Re: Ethics of special rights

Postby sacrosanct » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:51 am

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