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Rebirth in Buddhism refers to its teaching that the actions of a person lead to a new existence after death, in endless cycles called saṃsāra. This cycle is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful. The cycle stops only if liberation is achieved by insight and the extinguishing of desire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebirth_(Buddhism)
Meno_ wrote:Thanks for Your response and I would like to go on with it.
The idea oxcired occurred to me, that proof can be gathered other ways, using geometric patterns in the following manner.
The idea of energy transfer is indivisible within and without closed systems.
The conscious personality can be viewed as a combining of.triangular shapes , forming a circle, with a d(x) of ever shortening side, encompassed by
diminishing vertices enclosed by two isoscolese sides.
As the side which encompasses smaller and smaller of the circumference, that could be linked to the metaphore of humam types, subtypes as ego' s and personalities.
The subtypes will naturally be much more numerous, with increasing numbers as to more minute as the angles are traced to the vertices, with the point of the vertices form a virtual unity of ansolute identity with every point on the gross circumference.
This virtuality is both a hypothetical on- at the point of the vertices and at the circumferential periphery, where paradoxically and similarly, it is made up of points. These proximate points can be established by applying a lead point on the line, with an absolute of a virtual point.
The conceptual virtual, has to be requisite to the idea of a perfect circle.
We did a lot with this in prior posts, in relation to the idea of.the absolute conception as a necessary description to finding the d(x).
I don't want to dvelve here, only inasmuch as it also is an applicant to the idea of the ego becoming part of the circumference , as it decides more.subtly into more and more subtypes, in the process of evolving into absolute unitary all self inclusiveness.
As the finite number of near identical types becomes near undifferentiable, undiacernible, an appearance of a perfect circle gives rise to perfection as a.s substrate. Levin, the psychologist worked with this idea, albeit without success in trying to forge a mathematical surface definition of personally.
However the impasse between the geometry, the mathematics, the semantic positivism underlying assumptions (Wittgenstein), draw a picture of conceptual likeness to crisis modes near the curvature of the cixumferemce.
Again, this is a beginning , not any end to this process, and Cantor's difficulty with aligning the necessary conceptual tools at the infinitely reducible virtual absolute, with the actual limitationally drawn one, where
the limitations of.representing a stretching out of spatially stretched out continuum with time(the passing from one half of the isolated segment to the next halving) , becomes the feature of this process.
It is held that geometry has this conceptual difference at this point, similarly, as the conceptive approach into the ideas associated with black holes on macro and micro levels.
If, such is concerned, then if the cognition is basically a descriptive origin, then, at the point of a virtual crisis, it can at some point, divide into virtual certainty and.probable uncertainty. But at the point, where the derivation reached a point of disimtegrativr umertainty .
This but basic theory assumed to work on the most fundamental level
Now what could be envisioned as unique, at the very center of the circle, the virtual vertices of all integrated triangles, is the ideal or.absolute surface sum of all the triangles, and.rotated on an axis, to total and absolute.volume of an ideal sphere, the necessity again a demonstration of hyper.space as it dissolves.into virtual reality at the cemter.
Given the number of.types of.humans, at.the very periphery of.conscious limitless idea formation, in situ, is but a formative need to transcend the limit, of.acquired types of.defining characteristic ideation markers.within given psyches.
Here.is.where it gets interesting.
In humam development . a.process of differentiation then boumsedness of reified content, defines the ego, with the personalitu being the upper surface limit. With the opposite process, the contrary occurs, and a more.and more general typically define multiple conjuntions of types,
Where at some point the curve reaches beyond capacity of describing the integrative aspects of the process.
This point is so stretched, with the points becoming similar.to cosmic differences between objects formerly apprehended.as galaxies appearing as single stars, at a great distance, whereas on the micro scale, such observations can be created by more powerful electro microscopes.
What this implies is that.flows of.energy, through relative spatial temporal relations between observable points, may validate the intuitive origin of geometric point line relations6, where all lines are.constructions of near infinite points.
The accumulated personality -ego states, is compared.to a.Gestapo, of which boundary consideration have not yet reified, and in late life, an equally transferred.energy system will work to break down the particular.to the most.general configuration, in order to break down the ego into the simplest apprehension.
The psychological breakdown , literraly apprehends such a process, and it is a mode of.breaking this apprehension from it's conception, giving rise of reversing the different topological orientation , which at some point will appear as paradoxical
and moebius strip like. At that point the boundaries will reveal an open and.closed reversal, where the identity of opposites becomes at least conceivable , where the actual , situational phenomenon can not be separated further, and the psyche at this point will become reflexive and in an eternal mode of cyclical return .
At this juncture the prevelance of what 'comscious manifestation' can only derive from am inner.-outer undifferentiated source of energy.
That.this type of energy comes from am absolute source , appears to be the only way an impossibility of a nothingness can be.conceived, since all which appears is the opposite, being in a relative spatial temporal virtual world. In this sense, uncertainty is only a virtual manifested link between being and existence, either of.which can be a nihilized version of the other.
The pattern (geometric) presentation has reoccured in conceivably near infinite times , giving rise to conscious awareness through pattern and symbolic representation.
This occurred in yet another sleepless.night.
perhaps.Meno_ wrote:There are indications that Buddhism and Physics intersect psychologically at times, as a synchronous (Jung) transcendance,
Meno_ wrote:Thanks for Your response and I would like to go on with it.
The idea oxcired occurred to me, that proof can be gathered other ways, using geometric patterns in the following manner.
The idea of energy transfer is indivisible within and without closed systems.
The conscious personality can be viewed as a combining of.triangular shapes , forming a circle, with a d(x) of ever shortening side, encompassed by
diminishing vertices enclosed by two isoscolese sides.
As the side which encompasses smaller and smaller of the circumference, that could be linked to the metaphore of humam types, subtypes as ego' s and personalities.
The subtypes will naturally be much more numerous, with increasing numbers as to more minute as the angles are traced to the vertices, with the point of the vertices form a virtual unity of ansolute identity with every point on the gross circumference.
This virtuality is both a hypothetical on- at the point of the vertices and at the circumferential periphery, where paradoxically and similarly, it is made up of points. These proximate points can be established by applying a lead point on the line, with an absolute of a virtual point.
The conceptual virtual, has to be requisite to the idea of a perfect circle.
We did a lot with this in prior posts, in relation to the idea of.the absolute conception as a necessary description to finding the d(x).
I don't want to dvelve here, only inasmuch as it also is an applicant to the idea of the ego becoming part of the circumference , as it decides more.subtly into more and more subtypes, in the process of evolving into absolute unitary all self inclusiveness.
As the finite number of near identical types becomes near undifferentiable, undiacernible, an appearance of a perfect circle gives rise to perfection as a.s substrate. Levin, the psychologist worked with this idea, albeit without success in trying to forge a mathematical surface definition of personally.
However the impasse between the geometry, the mathematics, the semantic positivism underlying assumptions (Wittgenstein), draw a picture of conceptual likeness to crisis modes near the curvature of the cixumferemce.
Again, this is a beginning , not any end to this process, and Cantor's difficulty with aligning the necessary conceptual tools at the infinitely reducible virtual absolute, with the actual limitationally drawn one, where
the limitations of.representing a stretching out of spatially stretched out continuum with time(the passing from one half of the isolated segment to the next halving) , becomes the feature of this process.
It is held that geometry has this conceptual difference at this point, similarly, as the conceptive approach into the ideas associated with black holes on macro and micro levels.
If, such is concerned, then if the cognition is basically a descriptive origin, then, at the point of a virtual crisis, it can at some point, divide into virtual certainty and.probable uncertainty. But at the point, where the derivation reached a point of disimtegrativr umertainty .
This but basic theory assumed to work on the most fundamental level
Now what could be envisioned as unique, at the very center of the circle, the virtual vertices of all integrated triangles, is the ideal or.absolute surface sum of all the triangles, and.rotated on an axis, to total and absolute.volume of an ideal sphere, the necessity again a demonstration of hyper.space as it dissolves.into virtual reality at the cemter.
Given the number of.types of.humans, at.the very periphery of.conscious limitless idea formation, in situ, is but a formative need to transcend the limit, of.acquired types of.defining characteristic ideation markers.within given psyches.
Here.is.where it gets interesting.
In humam development . a.process of differentiation then boumsedness of reified content, defines the ego, with the personalitu being the upper surface limit. With the opposite process, the contrary occurs, and a more.and more general typically define multiple conjuntions of types,
Where at some point the curve reaches beyond capacity of describing the integrative aspects of the process.
This point is so stretched, with the points becoming similar.to cosmic differences between objects formerly apprehended.as galaxies appearing as single stars, at a great distance, whereas on the micro scale, such observations can be created by more powerful electro microscopes.
What this implies is that.flows of.energy, through relative spatial temporal relations between observable points, may validate the intuitive origin of geometric point line relations6, where all lines are.constructions of near infinite points.
The accumulated personality -ego states, is compared.to a.Gestapo, of which boundary consideration have not yet reified, and in late life, an equally transferred.energy system will work to break down the particular.to the most.general configuration, in order to break down the ego into the simplest apprehension.
The psychological breakdown , literraly apprehends such a process, and it is a mode of.breaking this apprehension from it's conception, giving rise of reversing the different topological orientation , which at some point will appear as paradoxical
and moebius strip like. At that point the boundaries will reveal an open and.closed reversal, where the identity of opposites becomes at least conceivable , where the actual , situational phenomenon can not be separated further, and the psyche at this point will become reflexive and in an eternal mode of cyclical return .
At this juncture the prevelance of what 'comscious manifestation' can only derive from am inner.-outer undifferentiated source of energy.
That.this type of energy comes from am absolute source , appears to be the only way an impossibility of a nothingness can be.conceived, since all which appears is the opposite, being in a relative spatial temporal virtual world. In this sense, uncertainty is only a virtual manifested link between being and existence, either of.which can be a nihilized version of the other.
The pattern (geometric) presentation has reoccured in conceivably near infinite times , giving rise to conscious awareness through pattern and symbolic representation.
This occurred in yet another sleepless.night.
Artimas wrote:I have never heard of him until now from you as well.
Will edit this on break or lunch.
I am not sure if his idea is the same as mine or if he intended it to be what I am trying to say. I feel all the knowledge and instinctive experiencing all the way back to the Big Bang is embedded in things up until this point now and will continue to be such. It’s a priori to us now.
Meno_ wrote:Artimas wrote:I have never heard of him until now from you as well.
Will edit this on break or lunch.
I am not sure if his idea is the same as mine or if he intended it to be what I am trying to say. I feel all the knowledge and instinctive experiencing all the way back to the Big Bang is embedded in things up until this point now and will continue to be such. It’s a priori to us now.
Nowedays identical narratives are never contemplated, let's say , extremely alike.(or establish identity per platform)
But now I am on an non prodactive break where writer's block treats it as non preferential next to the things need.to be done
I feel we have so much to talk about, and so much delineation is work to be cut out, and examined individually.
Meno_ wrote:Artimas wrote:I have never heard of him until now from you as well.
Will edit this on break or lunch.
I am not sure if his idea is the same as mine or if he intended it to be what I am trying to say. I feel all the knowledge and instinctive experiencing all the way back to the Big Bang is embedded in things up until this point now and will continue to be such. It’s a priori to us now.
Nowedays identical narratives are never contemplated, let's say , extremely alike.
But now I am on an non prodactive break where writer's block treats it as non preferential next to the things need.to be done
I feel we have so much to talk about, and so much delineation is work to be cut out, and examined individually.
Meno_ wrote:Yes briefly, for I'm in transit doing my chores, the extrinsic element in tacit knowledge implies an contraidication in terms of exclusion.
However the tacticity, of considered in purely mechanistic-logical determinants, fails the transposition of it's meaning as internally determined.9
In fact a transcendentality requires an unidentifiable center, once an exclusion (the inner logical matrix) becomes the point of view from which objectivity - necessarily - emerges.
As a consequence , a trans(a)scendancy becomes the modal requirement.
If it does, the difference becomes based on Leibnitz' problem with indistinction , due to non apprehension of differentiated variables.
Simply, it will be beyond quantifiability
So tacit knowledge must be a transendental objective, incorporating both intrinsic and extrinsic factors.
Freedom and determinism have to be qualified . What comes to mind at this juncture is responsibility. Towars what, is the bigger question, and it can be treated as an X, for the time being.
Now , if , cybernetic intelligence is a natural extension of humanity, then as a center, it may derive an exterior causation , not included. But I doubt that such difference mattered in a literal sense. What do You think? And mind You, I mentioned Polanyi an-passant relating to my very strange dream. I'm still digging the archives for it.
Meno_ wrote:Indistinction is the effect of identity of indiscernables , distinctive features can be hidden between many levels, as You imply, of convoluted epochs of reality. The idea that even in hiddenness, in a submergence from one form of reality to it's unconscious manifestation, toward the sub-conscious, the levels at some points can exercise apparent continuity, but not within absolute cohesion, or overlap.
The idea of an absolute therefore is not demonstrable because the elements or epochs forming absolute identity will become indistinct, by virtue of non differentiability.
The god then, in any definable form , can not be perceived even in dreams.
That "iT" underlies ALL consciousness, is then indubidable.
There is no doubt in my mind , that an absolute has to inversely impend the progression.
The hiddenness as invisibility masks as a nothingness, which is full.
No proof possible , but the zero sum of all approximations does in fact approach 1.
That to Cantor this also presented to a total block, need not serve as a deterrent.
[/Artimas wrote:[quote="artimas]"A one thing but has many, many faces, similar to that idea but much beyond being solely human faces."[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Meno_ wrote:Artimas wrote:[quote="artimas]"A one thing but has many, many faces, similar to that idea but much beyond being solely human faces."[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/
Between the tragedy of many gods wearing masks presenting their perceived roles, and that of acting them out, elapsed some two thousand years of learning to go from presenting to representing knowledge through understanding.
And what have we learned? That we forget how to see the original.
The middle ages' insividually guild produced unique semblance to none, can not have reproduced gods as well, for the means of production changed its forgot the embeddedness of the manifold representation of the many taken singularly, devolved into the single creator the producer of the unique as a perfect representation .
God became the embedded producer of forgotten production.
He could not but project the loss of individuality, into a retro projection unto the hiddenness of the god.
Innate intelligence dictated and pre formed even Einstein , that no thing =(nothing) is ever lost.
That was the birth of tragedy, the negation of the law of contradiction.
That they shall see the battle cry , of Nausea, the inauthentic actor, leading masses of innocent sheep to the slaughter of the inauthentic.
And it is for this, that it is worth , to regain out of this conflict, the only available method: of renewal of the lost, recycled,as now reaffirmed, as methods of skillful recovery of a Paradise.lost.
The only possible way personally, is to dispense and throw away that what is not truthful, and methodically attached , and coveted , put it to rest, so as to make actions as reflective to godly love as much as possible.
The tragedy of this godless reduction can and mist be turned around by the reappearance and adoption . the acceptance of the manyfaced godman, whereby the birth of tragedy to a singularity may be shown to be as quixotic as it was intended to be.
To achieve this, all will be forgiven and the singular hidden. This journey, may delibitate if not realized to be a state of being, rather then a simulated singularity.(man)
If correctly practiced and realized , it becomes a soul train for wearied travelers.
The key is tob accept the manifold overlays of reality as given .[/quote]
Meno_ wrote:https://youtu.be/6g5ZF6DUrHI
Perfect antidote against the capital of alienation: nostalgia of primal (subconscious membership)
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