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Trust

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:45 am

Do you trust your partner?

Are you paranoid that your partner may hook up with some random person given the opportunity? People are attracted to excitement and in those moments when inhibitions are lowered and there is a spark it can override a person's customary caution and in one foul swoop change everything. Of course, there is the person who thinks, I am smart enough not to get caught out and maybe that is true and if the now is more powerful than the past, it is entirely possible he or she will be unfaithful given the opportunity. The idea of living for the moment and that right now is all that exists and only do that which makes us feel good is alluring, but it can actually ruin people's lives, living for the moment is the reason people leave marriages.

So how does this affect a relationship or what is the driving force to take a chance on a one night stand when you are involved in a permanent other relationship. The truth is this type of casual sex is only meant to temporarily satisfy an immediate need for sex.

You could get hurt if you sleep around, or you could have fun and enjoy yourself for that night and then let it go, with no regrets.

One night stands are not for everyone.
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Re: Trust

Postby promethean75 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:35 pm

in promethean75's republic it is written in the fourth dialogue that a man, whom for which there is no opportunity to establish a family, should not be encouraged to observe the institution of sexual monogamy, and should instead indulge in as many sexual adventures as possible, provided he has a healthy libido and is not inhibited by moral conventions. in the second section of the fourth dialogue it is said that a monogamous relationship founded on 'love' rather than a foundation for proper breeding, is pure folly, just as a romantic relationship between man and woman founded on sex rather than intellectual commonalities, is also disingenuous.

in a civilization where there is no longer any explicit effort made to practice eugenics, the science of human reproduction is no longer critical or important. if the higher man finds himself born into such an age as ours, in which for whatever reason he is unable to establish a family in the appropriate environment and under the proper terms, he is to become a libertine defector and pursue his sexual interests without principle and for sole purpose of hedonistic gratification only.
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Re: Trust

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:16 am

promethean75 wrote:
in promethean75's republic it is written in the fourth dialogue that a man, whom for which there is no opportunity to establish a family, should not be encouraged to observe the institution of sexual monogamy, and should instead indulge in as many sexual adventures as possible, provided he has a healthy libido and is not inhibited by moral conventions. in the second section of the fourth dialogue it is said that a monogamous relationship founded on 'love' rather than a foundation for proper breeding, is pure folly, just as a romantic relationship between man and woman founded on sex rather than intellectual commonalities, is also disingenuous.

Plato is generally skeptical about the possibility of defining what is virtuous by general principles.

One can desire as good something that in fact is bad.

in a civilization where there is no longer any explicit effort made to practice eugenics, the science of human reproduction is no longer critical or important. if the higher man finds himself born into such an age as ours, in which for whatever reason he is unable to establish a family in the appropriate environment and under the proper terms, he is to become a libertine defector and pursue his sexual interests without principle and for sole purpose of hedonistic gratification only.


Eugenics policies is a violation of basic human rights, the right to reproduce, furthermore eugenics eventually lead to a loss of genetic diversity.

There is no mention above of temperance and as advocated by Plato, self-restraint is one of his four core virtues and echoed by Aristotle.
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Re: Trust

Postby MagsJ » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:20 am

Oh to be all too human..

..but, then again, some of us aren't.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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Re: Trust

Postby Artimas » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:36 am

A Shieldmaiden wrote:Do you trust your partner?

Are you paranoid that your partner may hook up with some random person given the opportunity? People are attracted to excitement and in those moments when inhibitions are lowered and there is a spark it can override a person's customary caution and in one foul swoop change everything. Of course, there is the person who thinks, I am smart enough not to get caught out and maybe that is true and if the now is more powerful than the past, it is entirely possible he or she will be unfaithful given the opportunity. The idea of living for the moment and that right now is all that exists and only do that which makes us feel good is alluring, but it can actually ruin people's lives, living for the moment is the reason people leave marriages.

So how does this affect a relationship or what is the driving force to take a chance on a one night stand when you are involved in a permanent other relationship. The truth is this type of casual sex is only meant to temporarily satisfy an immediate need for sex.

You could get hurt if you sleep around, or you could have fun and enjoy yourself for that night and then let it go, with no regrets.

One night stands are not for everyone.


One has to understand love fully to make a relationship work and be functional. Get with someone who wishes to share you with you and them with them. Not because you simply are attached or desire them. One must love themself first before they possess the ability to love another as to prevent insecurity from arising, insecurity and attachment are the issues, not love or a having a relationship. One must be wary of the differentiation. One must be honest from the beginning instead of insecure and full of deceit. One must want the best for themself and the best for their partner truly, by being open and honest one may better determine these conclusions and make the best possible choices for both parties.

Paranoia stems from insecurities, insecurities from attachment, ones own ideas and fears, not necessarily the other. If you know they cheat then why be paranoid? Why stay at all? They have broken trust and it cannot be repaired until a long time passes with being alone or with another.

Even nothing, is something.
If one is to live balanced with expectations, then one must learn to appreciate the negative as well, to respect darkness in its own home.

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Change is inevitable, it can only be delayed or sped up. Choose wisely.

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Re: Trust

Postby promethean75 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:00 pm

shieldmaiden wrote:Plato is generally skeptical about the possibility of defining what is virtuous by general principles.


no man i wasn't talking about plato's republic. what do you think this is, throwback thursday? his shit is obsolete. i was talking about my republic... which is way better than plato's.
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Re: Trust

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:30 am

i was talking about my republic... which is way better than plato's.


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