Understanding Rush Limbaugh

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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:33 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:make a regulation that fixes it.

Show me one thing that works better unregulated.

How about NOT managing your garden. Don't pull weeds, don't till, don't select which species inhabit, don't be authoritarian. Just let the invisible hand of nature take its course.

How about NOT managing your car. Don't use the steering wheel, but let nature guide it.

How about NOT managing your kids. Just let nature raise them.

Show me something, anything, that works better with zero management.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:41 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:The only people shrewd enough, intelligent and determined and hard boned enough, to actually pose economics as a problem of regulation and actually understand the dynamics of the thing they are regulating, is the Chinese communist party.

I thought Trump was the ONLY one :confusion-shrug:

I know, in their hearts, that's what a lot of the more educated, more intelligent, shrewder Western left would like. Thanfully, they don't have the heritage of a 100 years of starvation and insanity that the communists in China have, so they aren't hard boned enough to get it done.

Communists! Communists! Communists! Quick, run in circles while screaming!

1. People that have feelings and haven't looked into the claims made by left or right. It is forgivable to believe the claims of the left before looking into them, to believe the stance of the left corresponds with the real world before checking, as the real world precedes thought and there is no reason thought should a priori correspond with how things actually are. I used to be this kind until, no thanks to your fancy Universities, I started looking into the claims one by one. Guess what there was a totally unexpected and unfailing 100% rate of?

Any group of intelligent people will always contain a much larger proportion of "leftists". There is no exception. Show me an exception.

2. Actual communists. These are hardcore people that I respect and admire, and are my enemies. Very few of those actually around (enough to make ass puppets of the first kind).

The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:11 am

Sorry, those posts are too hysterical for me to answer.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:31 am

Gonna start posting these here daily. Just to have a reference.



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The last video I had posted was incomplete.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby barbarianhorde » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:42 am

The mystery that remains which relates to the thing being not about facts but about psychology, is why soclalists do never migrate to any of the over a hundred socialists countries in the world but insist on living in the USA which has no socialist foundations.

You can argue it's expensive to migrate but really poor people move from socialist countries to the USA all the time. Then they try to make the USA socialist too. It seems a lot of effort for a result that could be attained just staying at home.

Hence I think the founding fathers were really on to something, deep down in the psyche. The pursuit is the gift. Not the happiness.

It has to do with mortality I'm sure.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:51 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Sorry, those posts are too hysterical for me to answer.

Yes, hiding from evidence is how conservatives roll :lol:

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Go ahead and hide and muzzle yourself from replying... it will just make it look like you conceded.
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And Rush is such a greedy prick that he won't let his podcasts stay on youtube for long, so you're posting dead links.

He's not interested in people hearing his message, but only in getting paid for spreading bullshit.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby barbarianhorde » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:56 am

Hahaha, no.
Come on Dipper you're the one getting all excited.

Take some time and follow the arguments.

Youre a smart guy but Rengel is a genius. And with composure. Pretty unique.

Or is giving credit a capitalist sin? ;)
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby barbarianhorde » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:10 am

Regulated economies have depleted their natural environments usually within a few decades. The illusion is that government officials are more virtuous beings than entrepreneurs. The capitalist at least is forced to value his resources.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:47 am

barbarianhorde wrote:Hahaha, no.
Come on Dipper you're the one getting all excited.

Sure I'm excited. The same dumb arguments over and over and over endlessly. And it's not just private dumbassery that people hold in the privacy of their minds, but this affects people I care about; this affects my community. These people are stupid, their ideas are stupid, and the effects of those ideas directly cause the suffering of people I love, and those ideas shit-up my environment by favoring poverty, uneducation, disease, suicide, drug use, and general crime.

I have an abundance of patience for people who humbly don't know something, but I have no sympathy for the arrogant who assert the truth of what they don't know, haven't studied, don't specialize in, and when generally measured against their peers have always been mediocre at best and therefore have no reason whatsoever to warrant such cockiness, like Rush.

Take some time and follow the arguments.

Me??? I'm the only one making arguments. Everyone else is high-tailing it to their safe spaces. Show me a group of smart people who are predominantly republican. It should be an easy task.

Demographically, the least educated counties vote republican and the least educated states vote republican.
Democrat senators are twice as likely to be in the top 1% of cognitive ability as republicans.
Silicon valley, hollywood, academia, doctors, scientists... anywhere there is talent, there are democrats. Republicans have the menial jobs like cops, truck drivers, farmers.
Oh and you can even see it in the military with officers being smarter and more democratic while enlisted men favoring republicans. And then the army and marines are more republican while the smarter navy and air force are less republican.

No place on this planet can I find an instance correlating intelligence to conservatism.

If you can find one, by all means, post it.

Youre a smart guy but Rengel is a genius.

Genius??? Oh like Trump?

And with composure.

Composure? Is that what this is?

Leftists: EVOOOOOOOOOLL!

Right Wingers: but-

Leftists: RACIST EVOOOOOOLLLLL!


Or is giving credit a capitalist sin? ;)

You made a good point and I said "good point!" I haven't seen a good point from him yet. When he makes one, you can be assured I'll be the first to congratulate him.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:02 am

barbarianhorde wrote:Regulated economies have depleted their natural environments usually within a few decades. The illusion is that government officials are more virtuous beings than entrepreneurs. The capitalist at least is forced to value his resources.

There is no incentive for a capitalist to not dump waste into rivers and exhaust the land in the name of profit. Only regulation can stop that behavior.

It looks like you might have a dog. Did you know they grind up pets from the pound to make dogfood? Do you really want to feed that to your pet (plus the pentobarbital that killed the animals)? Only regulations can stop that behavior.

If not for the USDA, there's no telling what we'd be forced to consume.

How Does a Euthanasia Drug Keep Ending Up in Dog Food?

But some experts say it’s pretty obvious where the contamination could have come from.

“For pentobarbital, or any barbiturate, to get into pet food it means that animal products are being included that do not come from carcasses that entered USDA-inspected slaughter houses (because they only take in live animals),” Cailin Heinze*, a veterinary nutritionist and assistant professor of nutrition at Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine at Tufts University, told Gizmodo via email. “The carcasses must have been killed using barbiturates (or possibly treated with barbiturates shortly before being killed). This would be most common for ‘pet’ animals, particularly horses. There are renderers that will pick up dead animals from farms and basically cook them down to make new products. It’s a way of recycling, albeit a somewhat distasteful one.”


So do you want to protect your dog or the capitalists making your dogfood?
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby barbarianhorde » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:27 pm

Dude man dude
That capitalism conducts some mean cruel shit is NO reason for you to assume regulations conduct any less cruel shit. I point you to exhibit 1.... China.
Exhibit 2.... USSR

Exhibit 3 , Nazi Germany.

Where they did what they do to dogs here to humans.

I am bafflestounded by how many examples still aren't enough.

Come on man. Stop playing.
I lost so much family to regulated economies it's always hard to grasp how lightly people advocate them.
But I guess you know that's just the way of humans.


At least you can appreciate I see birds sticking heads in the sand in other places than you do.
:(( ;)
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:31 am

barbarianhorde wrote:Dude man dude
That capitalism conducts some mean cruel shit is NO reason for you to assume regulations conduct any less cruel shit. I point you to exhibit 1.... China.
Exhibit 2.... USSR

Exhibit 3 , Nazi Germany.

Where they did what they do to dogs here to humans.

I am bafflestounded by how many examples still aren't enough.

Come on man. Stop playing.
I lost so much family to regulated economies it's always hard to grasp how lightly people advocate them.
But I guess you know that's just the way of humans.


At least you can appreciate I see birds sticking heads in the sand in other places than you do.
:(( ;)


Right, so you would rather not regulate dogfood manufacturers. What is the noble cause warranting neglect of consideration for your pets?

Because of republicans, I have to wear a seatbelt or get pulled over specifically for not wearing one and get robbed at gunpoint. Because of republicans, I have to carry car insurance. Because of republicans, I cannot talk on the phone while driving. Because of republicans, I cannot buy beer on sunday. Because of republicans, I have to pay sales tax. I cannot think of even one infringement on my liberties NOT inflicted by republicans. But at the same time, it's the republicans who will not regulate dogfood. Right-wing objectivists are a disease!

All. Dictators. Are. Right. Wing! All! Not only has there never been a leftwing authoritarian, but it's not even possible. They just switch the labels to spread confusion. It's all bullshit propaganda meant to demonized the thing that would otherwise help you.

A "Red Scare" is promotion of widespread fear by a society or state about a potential rise of communism, anarchism, or radical leftism. The term is most often used to refer to two periods in the history of the United States with this name. The First Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War I, revolved around a perceived threat from the American labor movement, anarchist revolution and political radicalism. The Second Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War II, was preoccupied with national or foreign communists infiltrating or subverting U.S. society or the federal government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare

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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:20 am

barbarianhorde wrote:Dude man dude
That capitalism conducts some mean cruel shit is NO reason for you to assume regulations conduct any less cruel shit. I point you to exhibit 1.... China.
Exhibit 2.... USSR

Exhibit 3 , Nazi Germany.

Where they did what they do to dogs here to humans.
Here you are comparing countries with extreme methods of regulating with the US that has a lot of regulation, but not none.

This doesn't help us figure out the balance point.

And any capitalist system is going to have tremendous regulation around how one acquires property, what others can do with that property or not, what is property AND contracts. There will be a vast set of bureaucracies regulating contracts. Lawyers, judges, inspectors, and the vast set of rules around contract law.

I don't know what pure capitalism would be.

I mean, banks can't function without unbelievable regulation of people not in the banks. The bank says, I just sent your company 50,000 bucks. You now owe me money - even though nothing changed in the banks vaults. The banks need police and courts to regulate all the other agents behavior inrelation to the bank.

Note: the above is NOT me saying banks should be regulated. I am saying that the way banks create money and demand returns and also invest money, that whole thing requires for the bank's interest tremedous regulation of other people's actions and expectations, including courts, police and in the US has also included armies going into places that decided to ignore these regulations: see the IMF or when countries nationalize shit.

Capitalism cannot exist without vast regulation. I don't mean, Capitalism gets mean and nasty without regulation. I mean, capitalism cannot exist without it.

A corporation is based on a charter giving it rights and freeing it from certain limits. That is a set of regulations that others must honor.

Stock markets.

Employee contracts.

Inter business contracts.

And everything that makes sure people act in certain ways.

REGULATION.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:53 pm

Yeah I know regulation is making sure people act in certain ways. That's the bloody point man.

Wherever regulation increases the population loses power. Because, grown up logic. Will to power.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:00 pm

"All. Dictators. Are. Right. Wing! All!"

Well this is your problem right there, barbarianhorde. This is what you are trying to reason with.

That, that is the message of Rush. enough of this shit, sane men! Stop willingly running full speed into concrete walls of dumb! There are better uses for your energy.

S'all I'm saying. But carry on, I'm not unsympathetic to what you are trying to do.
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:22 pm

Understanding Rush Limbaugh? Is current events?

If the goal of all this is to motivate me to sort of stop writing, I will admit it worked.

You all may have a point anyway. My original goal was just to share some thoughts, but violent pushback has a way of motivating me to write. Sometimes I don't even notice until 50 posts in.

Anyway, see you around.

You liberal cocksuckers.

(it's a joke, chill out)
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby promethean75 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:09 pm

wait dude! i used to listen to rush limbaugh all the time when i was in solitary confinement. not because he had anything earth shattering to say, but because the only other radio stations i could pick up in my cell played cRap music and that godless redneck noise they call 'country music'.

but i enjoyed it for what it was.... enjoyed the 'spin' he put on things. i enjoy any kind of 'spin' i can get, because all the 'spinning' confirms my conviction that politics is a joke. it never bothered me that he's an overweight prescription pill addict capitalist crony pig who's so used to his limousine pulling up to the door that he'd run out of breath merely walking across the parking lot. his personal embarrassments didn't bother me. i was in it for the leftist bullshit he called out... and that's the job he did. duddint mean the right is any cleaner, but the right need not be clean for a conservative to call legitimate bullshit when he sees it from the left.

i remember how often on the air he was promoting that children's book he wrote... something about paul revere and the greatness of the american nation or some such nonsense. you could hear it in his voice as the sweat rings from one of his three necks soaked into his collar because the air conditioning in the studio was set to 68, which is like an oven for a fat man; 'fuck i need to get this book sold so i can make some money. ratings aren't what they used to be. that sonofabitch hannity is taking all my listeners'. lolzzzz....
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Re: Understanding Rush Limbaugh

Postby Serendipper » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:49 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:"All. Dictators. Are. Right. Wing! All!"

Well this is your problem right there, barbarianhorde. This is what you are trying to reason with.

Rightwing
Religion
Authoritarianism
Claims of knowing absolute truth (objectivism)
Consolidations of power/wealth

They all go in the same category.

Leftwing authoritarianism is an oxymoron like a bright day in the middle of the night.

Leftwing is maximal dispersal of power among the people such that the people have the most control over their government.
Rightwing is least dispersal of power such that the people have least control over their government (electoral college, state delegates, the senate, etc.. that's rigthwing ideology = the people are too stupid, so the rich elites will tell them what to do).

The House of Representatives is the only democratic power the people have and it's the most neutered.

That, that is the message of Rush. enough of this shit, sane men! Stop willingly running full speed into concrete walls of dumb!

Ignoring evidence - check
Refusal to address points - check
Redirect from the topic to the "condition" of the person (ad hom) - check
Arrogantly beating chest for winning - check

Yup, that's a Dittohead!

There are better uses for your energy.

Exactly! The odds based on demographics overwhelmingly favor you being an old white guy, and if so, why not go fishing or do something in your retirement besides meddling in another generation's future by advocating policies agreed by intelligentsia based on a century's data to be a principle cause of suffering? Why do you care?

Dear Dittoheads:
Why are you all white?
Why are you all old?
Why are you all under-educated?
And why do you all care?

That's the last piece to this puzzle.

The average life expectancy for males is 76 years. The Boomers are 54 to 72. Why spend time calling professors stupid?

"I realize you’re under a bit of a penalty because all our professors are stupid liberals, but that’s the best we can do." https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015 ... ain_folks/

Coming from a guy who flunked out of college:

Because of his parents' desire to see him attend college, he enrolled in Southeast Missouri State University but left the school after two semesters and one summer. According to his mother, "he flunked everything," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#Early_life

It doesn't get more arrogant than that!

What is the cause for this unsubstantiated braggadocio and why is it specific to uneducated white seniors?
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