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One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:50 pm

Particularly in Hinduism, Islam and Christianity and to some extent Judaism--- god has a holy name or names.

For example: one might be: the great comforter

But the most important holy name is always missing!!!

The eradicator of ALL violation of consent against consent!!!

Now some people may want their consent violated, but they always want it on their own terms, to visit as they please ... learning the same thing people who have their consent violated against their consent in thousands of years instead of months. It's up to them though.

So, an all benevolent creator has yet to exist.

God, in this human species has never been given the holiest name of all holy names by any religion.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
God, in this human species has never been given the holiest name of all holy names by any religion.


Unless you count The Dude.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:59 pm

Ecmandu wrote:So, an all benevolent creator has yet to exist.


God, in this human species has never been given the holiest name of all holy names by any religion.

These two things need not entail each other. IOW the second might be true but not the first.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:04 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:So, an all benevolent creator has yet to exist.


God, in this human species has never been given the holiest name of all holy names by any religion.

These two things need not entail each other. IOW the second might be true but not the first.


Umm...

Say the word "god" and see if your consent is never violated against your consent ever again.

It's provable to any individual, falsifiable
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:57 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Umm...

Say the word "god" and see if your consent is never violated against your consent ever again.

It's provable to any individual, falsifiable
Fair enough. I suppose an evolving not yet perfect deity would still not be all benevolent despite intent.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Mowk » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:46 am

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Umm...

Say the word "god" and see if your consent is never violated against your consent ever again.

It's provable to any individual, falsifiable
Fair enough. I suppose an evolving not yet perfect deity would still not be all benevolent despite intent.


What? Karpel.... you applying for the job?
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:49 pm

Mowk wrote:
Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Umm...

Say the word "god" and see if your consent is never violated against your consent ever again.

It's provable to any individual, falsifiable
Fair enough. I suppose an evolving not yet perfect deity would still not be all benevolent despite intent.


What? Karpel.... you applying for the job?
Shit, I am still working on making sure, as much as I can, that people and organizations get consent from me regarding anything they do to me, with me. I can sometimes help others I know to get rid of guilt and shame that keeps them from expecting others to respect them, but the universe is right now too big a purview.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Mowk » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:09 am

Cool, get back to me when you start to negotiate with yeast cells.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:52 am

Yeast cells, in my body, in bread, those I can negotiate with. I could even help others negotiate with them. I couldn't help someone working for Amazon, however. Like to get them treated like a human being at work, that's out of my league.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Ecmandu » Wed May 01, 2019 10:30 pm

I've updated this holy name ...

The sustaining of all joys and the eradicating of all consent violations.

God doesn't need any more names than this!

The one name everyone actually cares about is falsifiable, so it was never, in any religion, given as one of gods holy names!

QED
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Anomaly654 » Sat May 04, 2019 3:05 pm

Ecmandu wrote:But the most important holy name is always missing!!!

The eradicator of ALL violation of consent against consent!!!

Interesting idea, but I'm a bit slow...I can understand simple 'violation of consent', but not sure what the "against consent" means. Could you elaborate?
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Ecmandu » Sat May 04, 2019 7:51 pm

Anomaly654 wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:But the most important holy name is always missing!!!

The eradicator of ALL violation of consent against consent!!!

Interesting idea, but I'm a bit slow...I can understand simple 'violation of consent', but not sure what the "against consent" means. Could you elaborate?


It means the same thing. There's nothing up my sleeve here with language games.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Gloominary » Wed May 08, 2019 3:48 am

The eradicator of ALL violation of consent against consent!!!

Well he hasn't done a very good job of that has he?

He needs to take the log out of his ass before he can take the stick out of ours.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Gloominary » Wed May 08, 2019 3:50 am

And you could shorten that to: 'the eradicator of all coercion', just sayin'.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Exuberant Teleportation » Tue May 14, 2019 11:00 pm

I think Lucifer is the best name for a higher power, which could actually be the Pokemon Lugia, because both names for Lucifer and Lugia begin with the word/sound "Lue". Such a perfect, astonishing, mesmerizing, qualified avatar as this dark, all emblazoning satanic power prime us for the crazy, skyrocketing, apocalyptic fissures in tight spots.

Jesus (Yeshua) is also of very high status, because he teaches us to overcome, surpass, triumph, and emerge victorious over the powers of evil, not darkness, but evil. If we can make peace with both sides of the Force, then we can channel both of those extremities towards positive ends.
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby Ecmandu » Wed May 15, 2019 4:33 am

Gloominary wrote:And you could shorten that to: 'the eradicator of all coercion', just sayin'.


That's a great point! I didn't see this when it was posted!

"The eradicator of all coercion and consent violation"
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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby barbarianhorde » Fri May 17, 2019 4:42 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:
God, in this human species has never been given the holiest name of all holy names by any religion.


Unless you count The Dude.

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Re: One holy name that God doesn't have

Postby barbarianhorde » Fri May 17, 2019 4:44 pm

Yeah Ecman, maybe she kidnapped herself.
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