Karpel Tunnel wrote:Yout seem to be saying there is justice in the market, that Google will pay for this, Rome is on the decline. I am skeptical, but I hope you're right.
Serendipper wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:Yout seem to be saying there is justice in the market, that Google will pay for this, Rome is on the decline. I am skeptical, but I hope you're right.
I'm saying I don't know, but would like to explore the topic to find out. Friedman had his opinion and Donahue had his. Idk, I can see both sides. It's a puzzle that I can't solve and it's going to annoy me until I solve it
1. DuckDuckGo
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Mr Reasonable wrote:It's not google per se, it's the Trump administration's new policy on net neutrality.
I'm trying dogpile right nowSerendipper wrote:My experience with duckduckgo wasn't that great a year or so ago. Here is a search comparison viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193229&hilit=duckduckgo#p2677656
Perhaps it has improved.
The odds are google isn't going to care, just like sears didn't and verizon isn't, or how else would companies rise and fall?
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I'm trying dogpile right nowSerendipper wrote:My experience with duckduckgo wasn't that great a year or so ago. Here is a search comparison viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193229&hilit=duckduckgo#p2677656
Perhaps it has improved.
The odds are google isn't going to care, just like sears didn't and verizon isn't, or how else would companies rise and fall?
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Mr Reasonable wrote:It's not google per se, it's the Trump administration's new policy on net neutrality.
MagsJ wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:I'm trying dogpile right nowSerendipper wrote:My experience with duckduckgo wasn't that great a year or so ago. Here is a search comparison viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193229&hilit=duckduckgo#p2677656
Perhaps it has improved.
The odds are google isn't going to care, just like sears didn't and verizon isn't, or how else would companies rise and fall?
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Oh what such cray cray names.. these new search engines have.![]()
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Mr Reasonable wrote:It's not google per se, it's the Trump administration's new policy on net neutrality.
Could you expand on that....
Mr Reasonable wrote:Trump admin installs new fcc chairman. Amit something, he goes against the will of the people and allows isps to give precedent to the requests of bigger media companies. So back in the day, you could google something, for instance, "ford mustang", and click, "images" and you'd see all kinds of things from all kinds of sites that everyone uploaded in the images tab, so maybe you'd see someone's old beat up car, or some random dude's car in his driveway etc...because, technical shit aside, the internet didn't favor one content producer over another to the extent that it does now, and legally so because the new FCC guy ended net neutrality. Now when you google, "ford mustang" and click, "images", you'll just get a whole shit ton of stock photos. It basically consolidated power to verizon, at&t, etc and gave those companies a huge chunk of something valuable that used to be equal and free for everyone.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Hey, I am pretty selfish and if I can't get something as good I will drift back to Google. But it bothers me that what actually is a massive change - when we think of how many people use Google, how the new system will cause people to lose time, click on links they do not want, and how core the use of Google is for getting information - and that I see very little reaction and that people will likely just bow down to this, it is horrible. In a sense Google search has become part of our own cognitive processes. Well we all got just a little bit drunk or a little bit on the road to dementia and that will have huge ripple effects.
I also wonder if this is a taste of things to come, where the infrastructure in general will shift, frog in slowly rising to a boil water, to systems that subtly fuck us over more and more.
Things look good out there. Evne with the economic problems and so on, we are more and more stressed, more and more addicted - though our addictions have less of the drama of some of our older addictions - and more and more shallow. We are getting shallower and more stressed.
Mr Reasonable wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:Mr Reasonable wrote:It's not google per se, it's the Trump administration's new policy on net neutrality.
Could you expand on that....
Trump admin installs new fcc chairman. Amit something, he goes against the will of the people and allows isps to give precedent to the requests of bigger media companies. So back in the day, you could google something, for instance, "ford mustang", and click, "images" and you'd see all kinds of things from all kinds of sites that everyone uploaded in the images tab, so maybe you'd see someone's old beat up car, or some random dude's car in his driveway etc...because, technical shit aside, the internet didn't favor one content producer over another to the extent that it does now, and legally so because the new FCC guy ended net neutrality. Now when you google, "ford mustang" and click, "images", you'll just get a whole shit ton of stock photos. It basically consolidated power to verizon, at&t, etc and gave those companies a huge chunk of something valuable that used to be equal and free for everyone.
Gloominary wrote:When I type anything remotely controversial in the search box, instead of receiving a plethora of controversial channels and websites criticizing the establishment like I used to, I get channels and websites trying to debunk their criticisms.
For example if I type vaccines and autism, instead of getting loads of sites claiming that vaccines give you autism, I either get sites refuting that claim, or just general info about vaccines.
Serendipper wrote:Gloominary wrote:When I type anything remotely controversial in the search box, instead of receiving a plethora of controversial channels and websites criticizing the establishment like I used to, I get channels and websites trying to debunk their criticisms.
For example if I type vaccines and autism, instead of getting loads of sites claiming that vaccines give you autism, I either get sites refuting that claim, or just general info about vaccines.
That oughta piss off the trumptards
It should piss everybody off. Unless for some reason you think that corporations and those in power would never skew information or cover anything up. Or coming at it from another angle, that people should not be able to communicate freely.Serendipper wrote:Gloominary wrote:When I type anything remotely controversial in the search box, instead of receiving a plethora of controversial channels and websites criticizing the establishment like I used to, I get channels and websites trying to debunk their criticisms.
For example if I type vaccines and autism, instead of getting loads of sites claiming that vaccines give you autism, I either get sites refuting that claim, or just general info about vaccines.
That oughta piss off the trumptards
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