Existence is necessarily omnipotent

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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Certainly real » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:33 pm

WendyDarling wrote:When people don't understand what a word or idea means, how can it be said to possibly hypothetically exist? That is why peace will never exist, people have no clue what peace even is.


It's a meaningful word. It's hypothetically possible. Some communities may lack the will power or reasoning to sustain it effectively, but it's certainly hypothetically possible.
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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Certainly real » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:41 pm

barbarianhorde wrote:The mind can be changed by an experience.


Not beyond what Existence allows. A mind can't suddenly think of things that are hypothetically impossible. Nor can it ever become infinite from a non-infinite state.

They dictate the limit of what can be conceived, so also of "existence". Which is a concept, right? Im just trying to throw the obvious wrench in the wheel, the solipsist argument, see if you can deal with it.


Solipsism is blatantly absurd. It implies that you can have something go in and out of Existence. It implies a finite Existence. It has no place in reason.

I agree that you just proved you cant understand existence except as a mental concept!


Every meaningful thing is a mental concept. Every meaningful theory consists of meaningful statements and observations. No word, concept, story, theory or field of study can be meaningful if it contains paradoxes. Existence being finite is paradoxical. You can't understand Existence as being finite. It's not just limited to the mind, because limiting Existence to the mind (solipsism) is absurd. The problem of something coming from nothing cannot be allowed any place in any theory as it is meaningless/absurd.
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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Certainly real » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:45 pm

barbarianhorde wrote:Is Existence a thing?


Can it be no thing/non-existence? Existence is that thing which is all-existing. That thing is necessarily infinite/omnipresent/omnipotent/omniscient. It would be paradoxical otherwise.
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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Certainly real » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:50 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:Is Existence a thing?



Can you, in actuality, pour every ocean into one paper cup?



If that paper cup has sufficient depth, then yeah.
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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:59 pm

Certainly real wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:Is Existence a thing?



Can you, in actuality, pour every ocean into one paper cup?



If that paper cup has sufficient depth, then yeah.


Sufficient ~ enough, adequate? Here we are reducing Existence to something more or less mundane.

My sense there was that Existence would be reduced to almost nothingness if considered to be a *thing*.

I might consider it to be some ongoing Great Epic Poem, Great Epic Story, Great Epic Play on the stage of life.
Like Shakespeare said ~ "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages."
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake


“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience


“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake
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Re: Existence is necessarily omnipotent

Postby Certainly real » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:26 am

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Sufficient ~ enough, adequate? Here we are reducing Existence to something more or less mundane.

My sense there was that Existence would be reduced to almost nothingness if considered to be a *thing*.

I might consider it to be some ongoing Great Epic Poem, Great Epic Story, Great Epic Play on the stage of life.
Like Shakespeare said ~ "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages."


This isn't about whether something is entertaining or not. This is a matter of pure reason. Entertainment, poetry, music, and so on, are a different matter. I compose music (check out my music if you're interested: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 8XwwcBDK84
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