Kompromat

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Re: Kompromat

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:58 pm

Here is an interesting [and rather comprehensive] take on Trump and Putin

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... of-us.html

Trump has bent over backward to defend Vladimir Putin at America’s expense, and the question is why. Journalists have explored the worst possibilities: Trump is a Russian agent, Trump conspired with Putin to tip the 2016 election, Putin is blackmailing Trump with a raunchy sex tape.

In this article, I’m going to take the opposite approach. I’ll assume none of that speculation is true. I’ll stick to the public record. I’ll set aside the question of collusion as most people understand it—a conspiracy during the election—and I won’t postulate any hidden motives. I’ll present the minimum we know about Trump and Russia. The minimum is enough to merit impeachment: Trump is working with Putin to protect Russia and cripple the United States.


Here the focus tends to be on Putin the narcissistic authoritarian appealing to Trump the narcissistic authoritarian. The two just, well, bonded. Only, unlike George W., they weren't at all interested in getting the measure of each other's "soul".
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Kompromat

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:38 pm

"Over a barrel":

https://apnews.com/4ac772445073491aa7d3ca9e558e0144

Again, for some, it comes down to what is deemed to be most humiliating barrel that might be. And you all know my own rendition of that.
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Re: Kompromat

Postby iambiguous » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:48 am

Consider this argument: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/opin ... e=Homepage

We are clearly getting closer and closer to finally pinning this down. It is only a question of how explosive the truth turns out to be.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Kompromat

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Uncharted territory indeed...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-fbi-of ... y?ref=home

So, if the above does in fact turn out to be the worse case scenario for Trump, what on earth could Putin and the Russians have on him?

I figure it's got to be either the piss tape or lots and lots and lots of rubles.

Or...

Could Trump actually be a Russian spy?! A mole who had been compromised many years ago?

Let's face it, who really knows now where this will all end up?
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Re: Kompromat

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:35 am

There are probable and less probable scenarios.

The most probable was hinted at recently as one which implicates both The Republican Party and Trump's own predeliction toward setting an agenda to an undefined platform.

It is , as if , the large scale foreign policy issues , have been held at bay for a long time now, creating a specter, similar to what the pre WW2 planners had in mind, with the old apologists, when cementing Chamberlain's 'Peace in Our Time', still reverberating, whistling through the darkness of Wilson type neutral separatism, the exaggerated context of a personal grayish area.

Much of this is well understood , yet the risk is there that the lessons were not well learned.

It is quite possible that the only collusion will consist of a vast symbolic conflict over the Wall, within which ramifications of over the top searches for wider meaning: as , using
separatism to cover all manner of social conflict as springboards to political assessment and action , may be eventually settled , as a norm.
That is , the Wall, signifies an absolute measure , by which all else will be measured.

Once that is funded, most every thing may fall into place.

The grey area will understandably be resolved by black and white necessity.

It would be very surprising for Mueller to come out with a direct finding for obstruction of justice, for the same reason , that it might too severely estop the too far gone Republican Agenda. But an impeachment show ing a lackluster and borderlinely cooperative President with a pre-existing Russian maleformed cyberplan, (with 2 more years of extended litigated window to knock the wind out of sentiment )is a possibility.
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