Mr Reasonable wrote:Nothing funnier than watching an idiot pretend to be the smart guy in the room.
Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.
Inconvenient Reality wrote:Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.
That's what you call "reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality"? And totally not emotional whatsoever I bet.
Mr Reasonable wrote:Like I said earlier in this thread, a point to which he's yet to respond...I think he's too emotional to have an actual debate. He's reasoning from his feelings instead of deriving his feelings from reason. I think I've said that a handful of times to him and he just keeps ignoring it. He's asking me for an argument when I must have typed 1000 words and I gave a relatively thorough analysis of the issue of gun control. He ignored that and posted a picture of a washing machine and said something about CNN.
He's just young, not completely mature, not completely educated and not completely emotionally stable. He's apparently deeply insecure and still in that stage where "winning", as in "beating someone in an argument" is more important than having a full understanding of a given issue. You can always spot these guys because they cling like crazy to one overarching ideal and everything that they express can be linked back to just that ideal. They're not reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality. Instead, they're trying to use rhetorical force, via a sequence of obvious fallacies to insist that the world is the way that they want it to be.
Wouldn't it be better to understand how things actually are?
Inconvenient Reality wrote:Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.
That's what you call "reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality"? And totally not emotional whatsoever I bet.
Silhouette wrote:Always believe clickbait titles and "revealed" truth in general.
Because of course there is only a single simple reason for issues such as mass shootings and those performing the shootings are typically leftist with their gun fetishes and fantasies of fame or infamy?!
FC, I used to regard you as a thinker - what happened? Since I returned you've turned into this alt-right sensationalist mouthpiece - I am presuming this is an extension of some profound ethical insight that you should turn out this way?
Fixed Cross wrote:You mistake having a conscience for "sensationalism".
Anyway, me and my sensationalist buddies won the battle, thank god.
You and your buddies can take over the stage again and yell politically correct murder, it wont be of any consequence. Hillary is running for Facebook.
Maybe The Rock will run.
Silhouette wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:You mistake having a conscience for "sensationalism".
Anyway, me and my sensationalist buddies won the battle, thank god.
You and your buddies can take over the stage again and yell politically correct murder, it wont be of any consequence. Hillary is running for Facebook.
Maybe The Rock will run.
If you're talking about the election, and I am no supporter of Hillary, then yes you and your conscientious buddies got the branding that you needed for the same tyranny that we'd have got either way.
Primarily thanks to Russia and the Syrian government. Russia was the first nation to real go for them.Fixed Cross wrote:Huh?
Isis is defeated,
Here Trumps hazardous move may well have done some good.the Korean War is resolving,
It's not Russia that is setting up weapon systems, chemical weapons factories, anti-ballistic missiles all in close proximity to the US. Nor has Russia been destabilizing countries near Russia to set up puppet governments and get control of resources there. And Trumps highly pro-Israel, let's find a way to have a war with Iran team - just look at their histories and goals, is also very destabilizing.Russia is no longer on the verge of starting WWIII,
It had that before.Israel is allowed its own capital,
Not hardly. I'm over here, privitization, centralization of power, consolidation of media, more 'free market' solutions, the whole neo-con agenda is just moving on just as it did in the US and Britain, only later. Parties that resist neocon economic policies are weakening every day. And even if Britain manages to actually Brexit -the jury is still out - they will be under corporate thumb.European countries are being liberated from Neocon yoke -
The first human world leader is then a sociopath. I wouldn't let a guy with those eyes near my family.Its a pity so many Americans have no clue that they have the first human world leader ever.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Primarily thanks to Russia and the Syrian government. Russia was the first nation to real go for them.Fixed Cross wrote:Huh?
Isis is defeated,Here Trumps hazardous move may well have done some good.the Korean War is resolving,
It's not Russia that is setting up weapon systems, chemical weapons factories, anti-ballistic missiles all in close proximity to the US. Nor has Russia been destabilizing countries near Russia to set up puppet governments and get control of resources there. And Trumps highly pro-Israel, let's find a way to have a war with Iran team - just look at their histories and goals, is also very destabilizing.Russia is no longer on the verge of starting WWIII,
It had that before.Israel is allowed its own capital,
Not hardly. I'm over here, privitization, centralization of power, consolidation of media, more 'free market' solutions, the whole neo-con agenda is just moving on just as it did in the US and Britain, only later. Parties that resist neocon economic policies are weakening every day. And even if Britain manages to actually Brexit -the jury is still out - they will be under corporate thumb.European countries are being liberated from Neocon yoke -
The first human world leader is then a sociopath. I wouldn't let a guy with those eyes near my family.Its a pity so many Americans have no clue that they have the first human world leader ever.
The jury is still out for me on what he is up to in Syria. I am not even sure he knows. Isis is also a Bush creation. The neo-cons are not just democrats.Fixed Cross wrote:Isis is Obonko/Clonts creation. Trump allowed them to be destroyed.
He reversed the most Satanic US policies in history.
I am not fan of Iran, but the warmongers in his council, those he chose that is, are neo-cons to the bone and they do not give a shit about the arab population in Iran or anywhere else. They do not care what damage a war with Iran would cause or how many more terrorists get created by such a war. But my jury is out on what he is up to, but his choice of advisors looks pretty fucked upIran is a genocidal state sacrificing more Arabs (about which they don't care) than anyone else. Tens of millions by now, the past 100 years.
I appreciate you not assuming I am an anti-semite. What a world where someone can imply that I would seem to be, but at least leave the door open, and I feel grateful. It is so easy online to just state that the other person is X, when it is not the only option. Israel has supported all sorts of fucked up regimes in Africa and South America, for example. They destabilize other countries in the region and they COUPLE WITH THE NEOCONS and Saudi Arabia destablize not only the Middle East but superpower relations. Their internal policies are racist and not just against arabs but against the 'wrong kind of jews'. I don't conflate governments with the people in the countries. If you are american I would not assume you were a neo con. And Israel tries to enforce pc speech laws all over the place in the world and quite effectively.I don't know if you are an ideological antisemite, but otherwise I wouldn't know what is wrong about being pro-Israel. The Jews have a tiny sliver of land for which they fought and suffered three millennia. For some, quite a lot of people actually, this is too much already. They should have nothing. I don't think so.
It had that before.Israel is allowed its own capital,
I figured, just pointing out the obvious.Im talking about the Embassy move.
It did nothing to their opinions, likely hardened them.Breaking the hypocrisy of subhuman regimes judging what another nations capital should be on account of their "morals". An end to a great nausea. Just one of the bits of sanity Trump recovered for humanity.
Not hardly. I'm over here, privitization, centralization of power, consolidation of media, more 'free market' solutions, the whole neo-con agenda is just moving on just as it did in the US and Britain, only later. Parties that resist neocon economic policies are weakening every day. And even if Britain manages to actually Brexit -the jury is still out - they will be under corporate thumb.European countries are being liberated from Neocon yoke -
If US is the US this would be news to the neocons. Together they have wandered through the middle east destroying countries together, share policies in relation to the other superpowers, and got together happily with France to try regime change in Syria, which led to the refugee/migration crisis, the rise of Isis, making Russia more nervous than it should be and more. And Brexit also made nationalists happy in other Eu countries.Britain is already islamic. But Britain was never part of Europe, it was always trying to destroy us.
The nationalist parties are pawns in the driving social democrats towards neo con economic policies, the increased power of Brussels, and people being at war with each other rather than noticing and focusing on what those in real power are doing. What will happen I do not know. And I am oversimplifying, just as I think you are, if incorrectly. There are a lot of forces in play. Nationalist parties in the EU just set up for alt.right alt. left battles as have taken place in the US. A big fucking distraction from which there will come increased surveillance, increased policing, more neocon economic policies and noise over signals.For the rest, Trumps win has emboldened all the nationalist and sane parties. It will still be a long struggle, but we stand to win it now. Not necessarily peacefully, but thats okay.
First, even if that were the case, no one can deny how fucked up and reptilian (not in the Icke sense) his eyes are. SEcond, I just don't see what you are claiming. But that would be great. I hope you are right, but I see very little direct accomplishment, just increased tension.Interesting, a sociopath who saved more people from hell than any other human in history.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:The jury is still out for me on what he is up to in Syria. I am not even sure he knows. Isis is also a Bush creation. The neo-cons are not just democrats.Fixed Cross wrote:Isis is Obonko/Clonts creation. Trump allowed them to be destroyed.
He reversed the most Satanic US policies in history.
I am not fan of Iran, but the warmongers in his council, those he chose that is, are neo-cons to the bone and they do not give a shit about the arab population in Iran or anywhere else. They do not care what damage a war with Iran would cause or how many more terrorists get created by such a war. But my jury is out on what he is up to, but his choice of advisors looks pretty fucked upIran is a genocidal state sacrificing more Arabs (about which they don't care) than anyone else. Tens of millions by now, the past 100 years.
I appreciate you not assuming I am an anti-semite. What a world where someone can imply that I would seem to be, but at least leave the door open, and I feel grateful. It is so easy online to just state that the other person is X, when it is not the only option. Israel has supported all sorts of fucked up regimes in Africa and South America, for example. They destabilize other countries in the region and they COUPLE WITH THE NEOCONS and Saudi Arabia destablize not only the Middle East but superpower relations. Their internal policies are racist and not just against arabs but against the 'wrong kind of jews'. I don't conflate governments with the people in the countries. If you are american I would not assume you were a neo con. And Israel tries to enforce pc speech laws all over the place in the world and quite effectively.I don't know if you are an ideological antisemite, but otherwise I wouldn't know what is wrong about being pro-Israel. The Jews have a tiny sliver of land for which they fought and suffered three millennia. For some, quite a lot of people actually, this is too much already. They should have nothing. I don't think so.
It had that before.Israel is allowed its own capital,I figured, just pointing out the obvious.Im talking about the Embassy move.It did nothing to their opinions, likely hardened them.Breaking the hypocrisy of subhuman regimes judging what another nations capital should be on account of their "morals". An end to a great nausea. Just one of the bits of sanity Trump recovered for humanity.
If US is the US this would be news to the neocons. Together they have wandered through the middle east destroying countries together, share policies in relation to the other superpowers, and got together happily with France to try regime change in Syria, which led to the refugee/migration crisis, the rise of Isis, making Russia more nervous than it should be and more. And Brexit also made nationalists happy in other Eu countries.Britain is already islamic. But Britain was never part of Europe, it was always trying to destroy us.
The nationalist parties are pawns in the driving social democrats towards neo con economic policies, the increased power of Brussels, and people being at war with each other rather than noticing and focusing on what those in real power are doing. What will happen I do not know. And I am oversimplifying, just as I think you are, if incorrectly. There are a lot of forces in play. Nationalist parties in the EU just set up for alt.right alt. left battles as have taken place in the US. A big fucking distraction from which there will come increased surveillance, increased policing, more neocon economic policies and noise over signals.For the rest, Trumps win has emboldened all the nationalist and sane parties. It will still be a long struggle, but we stand to win it now. Not necessarily peacefully, but thats okay.
First, even if that were the case, no one can deny how fucked up and reptilian (not in the Icke sense) his eyes are. SEcond, I just don't see what you are claiming. But that would be great. I hope you are right, but I see very little direct accomplishment, just increased tension.Interesting, a sociopath who saved more people from hell than any other human in history.
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