There isn't really a muse thread.

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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:40 am

Water & wind. A sailors dream and also a formula for success, I think.
If you have water, fresh and potable, you're one third the way there. Plants; we might grow, don't need the water to be as potable as humans think, another third, If you've got wind, you've access to the cheapest conversion of solar energy to mechanical energy on the planet, and the sun puts out a whole lot of energy. Three of three, golden.

How can these resources be distributed equally rather than equitably. Who owns the rain? Let them pay for when there is too much plenty. Who owns the wind? Let them pay when it blows too hard. If it were shared we'd weather the storm.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:40 am

The Back-up Plan.

Parents. Please don't instruct your children to always have a back-up plan for when their dreams don't turn out, cause they won't, if you put your faith in back-up plans. A kid should have a parent that is both realistic and totally committed to their offspring's success. "Back-up" plan not required.

Mid life evaluation, I've spent my entire life living the back-up plan.

58 years in is a hole to dig out of. When did I get so beat up that I lost the interest to reach for plan A?
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:54 am

It's odd, seems as if their is the same requirement of faith, be it in self, or in a god, to find what ever one is looking for. It feels algebraically reflexive. Reducible to sign and cosign.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:47 am

As a spokesperson for god I make a terrible spokesperson.

Absolute knowing, and what it implies is a tough mouthful to choke down.

What if god isn't perfect? Merely vastly more aware than us? 13 billions years compared to our at best 150,000 years as a species, but maybe only as recently as 27,000 years old. If we can't even assess that accurately, what the heck do we 'know' about any conception of abstract perfection beyond the limits of our own concoction.

What is an example of any sort of perfection that is supposed to exist?

I have suspected for a while that a perfect god doesn't exist, but that doesn't negate the possibility that an imperfect god does exist. One that doesn't "know" anymore than we do, But as result of chronology is a lot more aware then we are.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:59 am

Welcome back. Good show.
I will not trouble you further.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:34 am

Smack in the middle of all sorts of new muses.

Kites. Yeah I know, a kids toy. But for some reason air planes and rockets as a kid, sailing in my middle years, it makes some sense, ...and there is plenty to keep the creative juices flowing.

Even perhaps more odd is the notion of an indoor kite. In outdoor kiting the atmosphere more or less moves through the kite. With indoor kiting the kite is made to move through the atmosphere. They both achieve lift which is what makes the kite fly. Guess i could be an atmospheric sort of fellow. An atmosphere sure can stir things up; gets stirred up too.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:28 am

My love for all things spring can only be measured by my utter disdain of a deep freeze. Four feet. The snow, low in shadows, lingers for ever. But here, the sap is finely and finally running in the Sugars. I feel like I am waking up.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:39 am

I am willing to meet anyone in the middle and stretch our circumference from there.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri May 04, 2018 5:37 am

Who clicks on this 'shit'?
The answer is yes and no, in no specific order.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Wed May 23, 2018 7:25 am

Great day. Late, but a fond spring ritual has caused these loins to roam. A walk about/drive about in pursuit of a mushroom. And I am a mushroom finder. I scoff at no hunting signs. I find.

Much appreciation to whom ever and what ever, appreciates it.

>four to the brow<
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:32 am

I am judgemental. Sorry 'bout that but It's no sin.

A smidgen of understanding takes you places. Some not so bad. Some require getting use to. Some just plain hard to stomach. Life ain't neat.

It's "good" what ever the flavor. Still learning to appreciate eggplant. In the mean time there is plenty to savor.

Politics are sweet.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:28 am

There are two practiced points of view along a continuum.

On one end is a philosophy of "All for one and one for all" and on the other end there is the thinking "Every man for himself."

Which is more rational?

Our ability to determine what is of value would be different given where along the spectrum one falls.

As there is a breadth to the continuum there is breadth to what has value.

At the extreme end of "all for one and one for all" is the thinking that "all" is not just the human species but all life. At the extreme end of "every man for himself" is a disregard for any other life then self.

What about a sense of intrinsic value?

My personal philosophy sides near the extreme end of "all for one and one for all". That is going to require I value things quite differently then an individual that subscribes to the idea of "every man for himself" where something is of value only if it has potential for exploitation for the individuals personal gain.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:38 am

Fancy that. I have posted a thousand, and now I am a philosopher, ILP says so. Who am I to argue?
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:57 am

If I can exercise a choice I'd rather be a symbiote then a parasite.

But even the parasite is here for balance.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:51 am

Symbiote would fall pretty deep into the "All for one and one for all" paradigm and a parasite does seem to fit fairly far into the "Every man for himself" end of the spectrum.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:12 am

My sole reason for any sort of participation on this site is some sort of insight into why I engage is this valueless thought.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:00 am

The person willing to kill another for the least amount will drive the value down for everyone else. Supply and demand. The going rate seems to have bottomed out at free.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:50 am

May be?
But let's look at it differently. The emergence of an awareness of is.

Not all humans experience it. Let's face it we could all be witness to the same event and we'd all see it differently. Have we tried to classify it categorically. There is effort in process. So I don't have a lot of time to wait on the process.

This is what I have managed to cull so far.

Responsibility? That has got to be some way big meta sort of question.What are we really actually responsible for?
The answer is individually very little. A unique idea, without an externally experienced trigger. What, ideas arise from a vacuum? Hardly.

A notion of freewill? What are we actually able to choose from? Big question. Not all that hammered down.
That unique quality of individual experience will drive me nuts. Despite all evidence to the contrary, why do you still believe; because of personal experience.

So given the ambiguity of the prior two statements that seem pretty universal we end up with all this variation. So frustrating.

But I am pretty sure I'm not responsible for anything that happened before, given any sort of notion of cause and effect, I was born.

What existed prior to me has precedent. I am responsible to exist with it. It is not mine to do with as I please.

So what do you think is yours? What are you individually responsible for?
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:51 am

Just in case you haven't noticed.

We don't own the world we belong to it.

You aren't even a you you're an us, but you just will yourself not to see it.

Them shades aren't working for you: dimming your senses.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:09 am

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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Meno_ » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:01 pm

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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Meno_ » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:06 am

Mowk wrote:My sole reason for any sort of participation on this site is some sort of insight into why I engage is this valueless thought.



Why do You engage? Why do I ? Of you will, I will read ALL of Your forum and tale it from there. OK with You? Later.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:43 am

Dandy.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Meno_ » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:43 am

Mowk wrote:My sole reason for any sort of participation on this site is some sort of insight into why I engage is this valueless thought.



But why valueless when every shred of anything has some of it. O read it in entirety and there are parts which demark others. Bit have to rehash cause reading was only a surface beneath which.?.?

At any rate every book has a cover and yes we've spoken before albeit briefly.

For a start.
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Re: There isn't really a muse thread.

Postby Mowk » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:04 am

I question my sense of value. What is it to have value? What scale would accurately measure it?

What makes a species valuable and which don't have value? 99% of the life on this planet has gone extinct, and it's just replaced by something else. That sort of implies that life itself is more valuable then any species or what they think.

I've watched a rabbit nip off flower buds along a row. The rabbit doesn't eat them, just chews off the flower buds. Oddly enough this makes the plant produce more flowers, and as a result more seed, giving it a better chance for survival. I can't see how the rabbit benefits from this behavior. It doesn't eat the plant or it's seeds. Is it a learned behavior? If not, how the heck did it become instinctual?

How can something as transient and fleeting as a thought have value? The ideas is only 1% of the work. Clearly what has the value is all the work that goes into turning an idea into something more then just an idea. Thoughts aren't much different. Sometimes they are impossible to hold on to. Slippery little buggers. In the middle of a sentence, poof, and they can be gone. And you are left with that dumb look on your face, as you realize you really did forget what you were thinking.
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