I had little idea Stefan Molyneux is insane

For me its a visceral, survival kind of thing, politics. For the left it is generally a game, an ideological, abstract thing in the end. About ideas and not facts.

Of course certain basic concerns (poverty, police violence) are real, but they do not pretend to really want to resolve these, what they want is to overthrow destroy, what they see is the symbolic signifier of what hurts people.
They don’t go after the real causes. Unfortunately leftists always reach for the worst criminal oligarchic business people to back them. Its an error I think, to treat politics as an idealistic endeavour. An error which has no parallel in how costly it is.
I happen to have grown up amidst abusive leftist people, narcissistic psychopaths in some cases, inside of hard left politics inner circle. Abusive narcissism, as you would imagine the regime of say, Bresjnjev, is honestly a common trait amidst people working in left-wing politics.

Trump has my undying love, as being the first politician I ever knew (and Ive grown up in politics and have been a field and editing journalist, politics is close to me) who has diminished the level of abuse that goes on in the world substantially. That is pure and simple the only reason I love him and why I detest the ruthless, truthless and sanctimonious opposition he gets from so called social-minded people, even though I do not detest these people most of the time. I think they are simply unaware of how to process information in the context of politics, and I don’t think this is a character flaw, but a very normal thing. Politics is a form of magic in the showmans sense, whatever you are most clearly shown is certain to not be the case.

You are being shown Trump is a fool. Trump works hard at keeping that image alive. It is an important edge.
People who look a the ground, trust only tangible, first and multiply verified second hand experience, love him with a kind of wonder, for what he pulls off and what he endures.

Okay, basically you can say that for me, a hyper empath with knowledge form my first year of the scenes of professional left wing politics, politics is a kind of form of psychology dealing with the criminally insane and extraordinarily clever. Society is made up of a psychopathic structure at the level of conceptually driven representative politics. Lies aren’t just common, the capacity to lie well is rewarded most of all things, and to lie well at the cost of another is the true life blood of left-wing parliamentary and governmental politics. It has nothing to do with you, or local level politics - almost all local politics is decent. It has to do with people in national governments and in great publishing powers, Hollywood essentially.
I used to imagine myself a Hollywood filmmaker, had a portrait of Marx, playfully albeit, l on my mantle for a while, and was in a rap group called KGB. I collected for sea mammals and smeared christian Conservative party billboards. I was a leftist in heart and soul or so I would be characterized. Except I also had an eye for true accomplishment, and gradually I came to appreciate philosophy as the art of artistic and spiritual accomplishment, and that is how I gradually came to understand some of the positions on the right. Not long after, some stuff began to occur in my nation that drove some of these positions home to me… and gradually I turned more to the right, as a principle of rational ethics, which in turn slowly gave me power to understand that many people around me were not in a universe for sane people. And yet they operate so smoothly…

The ideological right of which Molyneux is a part is equally narcissistic as the left, and really a kind of Marxism of itself. A class struggle, a dialectic of capital and real people, - its the same thing.
The nationalistic right is decent folk. People who sing their hearts out with the difficult second verse of the anthem and actually mean that shit.

What I see on the intellectual left and ideological right as a general rule:
“of course im right because Ive thought it through.”

You cant think through life.
Politics is life, not an idea.
Lies work much better in it than truths, unless you are in a postion of executive power. Then alone does the truth work in politics, and only because you’re no longer practicing politics, but directly applying creative and destructive will. Truth is clearly of most value when a choice has to be made between creation and destruction. If neither can be accomplished, truth is very useless and is responded to with great annoyance all across the board. Below executive power, what matters is management of tendencies. Trump mastered this for his election. In executive power, if you want something done you have to call it like it is, exactly like in a card game. Truth is the best weapon if you know you have the highest hand.
Not all presidents represent their own presidency; many are figureheads as we know; the ones who did represent themselves have usually been very radical and very successful, the ones who didnt tended to ward over slow and costly wars that lead to nothing but the need for more and even slower war. A true presidency is rare - I think this is the first one since Delano Roosevelt; like him, Trump oversaw the end of wars and started impressive and robust economic growth. Unlike him, he did not seek to control the globe in an arrangement with other major contenders, but disentangled the web of superpowers and brought about a situation of many powerful nation states competing without engaging in any serious combat.

One of the reasons to disrust Molyneux is that he acts as if the right is not in executive power in the US; whereas many concerns are surely somewhat valid, he fails to be happy where it is appropriate. A sure sign of an ideologue.

You can not be a serious lover of liberty without having a deep happiness about the sheer valour that your leader has displayed before the gods. Its awesome, frankly.
It makes a lot of things right that seemed hopeless. It grants that will might indeed be the same as love wherever it governs of its own devices, and that our species is capable of far more than what we represent coming out of the Christian Era. Christ, the ultimate representative, the sublimation of eros into politics - Trump is beyond that magic, he doesn’t have that shine and sanctity - he just is immensely pleased, clearly, that he has made it to be president of his great country. He is not worried about deserving it, he did it all by himself.

He did have Bannon when it counted, but in the 80s he was already talking about running someday, on the same issues.

You have to understand, men did not often accomplish such things by their own family resources, at all. Usually men to take over the world-power had backing by several old organizations.
Trump was fought to the very last moment by the Republicans. He is not beholden to anyone. Actually, it seems.

On the other hand, the movement that is raging for EQUALITY is a bode of the coming age of Aquarius, no doubt. The elections after the coming ones will tell us how we should be considering that for real; Pluto moves into Aquarius then for the first time since 1776, which would mean nothing if it weren’t simply how things are.

Having said ALL that,

Yes, chaos.
Gotta embrace it.

But, when your guy is president, you cant be all about it. Its your turn to make some sense, some Apollonian building. Its pretty hard work I must say. Being right.

Do you now feel sufficiently distanced and absolved from “agreeing with people on the left here”?

I admire the grounded approach that you take towards life and achievement, though I don’t think pragmatism versus intellectualism is what defines “the right” from “the left”. I say pragmatism versus intellectualism instead of “facts” versus “ideas”, because I think the right follows ideas based on fact, and I think the left follows ideas based on fact. The difference is in scope - how far ahead you’re trying to look and plan for. Among both leftists and rightists there are internal squabbles about who is grounded and who is in the clouds. Right here in this thread you accuse SM of not being happy for what he has as a rightist enjoying executive power in the US (and Canada - he’s Canadian, right? Well, and nearly the entire western developed world) - as his sin of being an ideologue in spite of the practicalities for which he lacks gratitude. Just the same on the left, you have reformists trying to pragmatically move how things are one step up at a time in the direction they want to head, versus revolutionaries who are trying to scout ahead to where such stairs are actually leading, suggesting it’s not heading in the right direction afterall and suggesting a better staircase to climb instead without sufficiently considering the practicalities of how to successfully get there.

What I’m trying to do, rather bizarrely, is to not run as far as I can up a staircase and shout about a promised utopia at the top, but to rather ungracefully stretch myself between an appropriate grounded happiness with how things are and somewhere up the staircase that I’ve scouted and deemed the best to climb, as far up as I reach. I look ridiculous half reaching for the ground as best I can and half stretching up into the clouds. As such, I’m going to lack your earthly pride and dignity, but for a leftist I am trying to hold onto all there is to be grateful about rightism as well as look as far beyond it as I can without (hopefully) disappearing up my own arse. To flawlessly follow up on such a vain hope, I’ll draw upon the not so ancient piece of history, “The Incredibles”, by casting myself more like Elastigirl than a Mr. Incredible… Syndrome is my enemy too, but no, that doesn’t mean we’re married :-"

From here, I see Trump as a fool who puts no work into it at all, such that I feel far too much pity to even be able to look at him - and yet I also don’t see evidence of the proud jingoism of many presidents before him, which was also clearly present in his competitor in the last US general election. You too easily attribute it all to a heroic figurehead, and perhaps I too easily attribute it to his lack of competence to seriously even consider wargames - and the direction was probably where everything was headed anyway (perhaps the best argument ever in favour of the Republican desire to incessantly elect the biggest idiots in power to best mock the state and thereby justify dismantling it). Abductive reasoning should not so easily be accepted on either of our parts - even as a journalist, I cannot believe that you’re so close to politics to have secretly been witness to an accidental break in his Trumpfoolery. But that’s probably more words than I’ve wasted on the subject than I’ve ever written and now I feel like I need a shower.

So to sum up, I may not be intellectually grandiose, but I am very tall - and as someone who likes to think they have at least the tip of their toe on the ground, I can confirm that it’s not such a bad thing to have the odd thing in common with the view I get to enjoy from up here. Give yourself a break from all this rationalisation of being so sharply distinct from a group that hurt you in the past.

Dude Im very sorry to see you read, or took in, nothing that I wrote.

But not surprised

Honestly from where I am standing you are astonishingly cruel and indifferent, being given so much opportunity to see what is happening, and proudly choosing not to, and mocking the one man who does something about it.

I am astonished at the weakness of my fellow humans these days. I am trying to resign to it, but the crimes that Trump is contending with are so intensely ugly…

Your idea that I said all that to distance myself from having agreed with people own the left tells me something of why you have your conviction - out of a sense of fashion.
It would wrinkle your suit to look into the matters I bring up.

No friend, you’re not tall. You’re tiny. At least where it concerns social responsibilities and investigative qualities.
Could also be that Im gigantic. Or both.

Gosh this is all so depressing. The left.

Are you paying attention or not?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSjrYWPxsG8[/youtube]

Yeah, this is pretty depressing. I’m sorry I’m not allowed to disagree with you without offending you.

Unfortunately this’ll probably just rile you up even more, but I guess this is what you get for trying to communicate over too long a distance.

Urwrong: I am man, don’t worry about that.
I probably gave the wrong message downplaying Molyneux’ removal - even the act of saying something to which fascists agree was a huge drain on my system. And of course it is a cowardly move to ban this dude as shitty as he is while you’re allowing the live streaming of rapes and murders.
Good thing Agadmators whole channel wasn’t deleted, so far.
Seeing the date of this video, I suppose his podcast was deleted the same night Molyneux got his channel deleted, which happened, according to youtube, when they activated a set of stricter criteria.

All this said, the company is a private company and all uploads to them are basically gifts to them. Technically, you cant say much about it, they can legally do what they want with what we give them.
I used to get tens of thousands of views within weeks for videos before it got taken over in 2008. Immediately, my streams of views stopped. I could be lucky if I got 50 views. Sometimes the viewcounts ran backwards, kek.
Ive never liked any of it. Ive never been unaware of crude censorship of everything except hypocrites. It has gone on long before youtube existed. I cant stop it though, though Ive tried what I can.

You are allowed to not do research, but if you go down that lethargic, ethic-less road, you are not allowed my respect.

You are allowed to twist my words, but that does not win you my respect either.

Guy, I don’t care about your respect Just tryin’a talk about a thing.

It was kind of you to let me checkmate you though, you’re a good sport.

No man, all you ever do is for the respect of others. “I am tall” - lol. And you said that several times in a few days.
You don’t even seem to recognize the word “research”. From that, it is quite clear you are beginning to crack.

Maybe in a year you will have forgotten that you ever proudly supported a child sex trafficking ring, thats what happens when leftists wake up.
Ive cracked many leftists before you. Its dirty but satisfying work.

Well Sil, not all you do is to win respect, but your content always is slanted heavily by vanity. Your content in mathematics is most substantial, though vain as hell, your content in politics is least substantial of all, pure vanity. And because politics is about extremely serious issues, such vanity is truly something I hope you will overcome.

And if you do I hope you wont quite be like Rose McGowan and do a 180 without even noticing it. I hope you will remember what you stand for now, and search your psyche for the causes. There will be tremendous growth for you in that.

I dunno, I’d quite like to try out a 180. It doesn’t bother me if I notice it, it only bothers me if there’s better reason to do it than to not do it.

For now I’m content with a curious squiggle though.

Ha. Stay curious. Enhance curiosity.

Thats really all I hope for any mind.

Since fakebook, google and twitter have received billions in government subsidies, it’d hardly be a violation of free market principles to either break them up, take our money back or regulate them, decensor them, free market principles have already been violated, so fuck em.

^^^ to kick what is already falling.

In historical materialist terms this is an expression of the doubling down of systemic contradictions. Feeding back into the structure the contradictions it generates so as to force a synthesis of conflicting forces.

These recent battles over media rights and shit are the praxis of the unique conflicts ‘at work’ in the capitalistic process.

That’s the real reason why fakebook etcetera are so PC in the first place, because government, and the financial elite have massively prop them up, government has had a cultural Marxist bias for some time while being economically corporatist.

Big tech knows what government giveth they can taketh, they’re careful not to bite the hand that feeds, so they fall in line with the PC.

They fund burn loot murder and plantifa too, they use these faux revolutionaries to maintain and expand their power.

The financial elite has been using crony capitalism and Marxism to take over da earf since 1815 & 1917 respectively.

Government needs to end its ‘libel’ protection through social-networking platforms.

Make the platform responsible for libel, defamation, harassment and see what happens. They’ll be sued into the ground immediately.

At least threaten them, and allow them to backup. If they don’t, bring down the hammer.

Trump already made one threat. Next he should go after yahoo and google domains.

Big tech, social-media, have a choice to make. Adhere to Free Speech, and ‘balance’ left and right, liberal and conservative perspectives, or, if they censor one side, then they cannot retain government protection.