There isn't really a muse thread.

They are , but can be used interchangeably, whereby they have similarity, yet possess identity.
The identifiable similarity has some epoch which extended symbolism toward a higher , more extended level to incorporate both epochs.

I may even be bold to suggest a point at which such epochs differentiated existential use from the roots of it’s very origin.(dasein)

This idea may be furtive and sourced on intuition, but it may be worth to look at it. I do not think that both contextual differences originated on the same level.

Later I will look into it, or maybe You could?

What?

Gravity can be used two distinct ways, but the word came from a single root.

The intention, was probably not use in two fold manner in two distinct contexts. At some point added connotation developed.

That is my hypothetical which I did not have time to research, as not even now, but may have time later.
A grave matter is a serious matter, as related to gravity, whereas a heavy object does possess the same, albeit
an effective reaction to a pulling force of gravity.

From Thesaurus: comes this:

The word gravity comes from a Latin word that means “heavy.” Its first meaning in English was “seriousness and dignity.” It was first used as a scientific term for the force that causes objects to have weight in 1641.

The different contexts are separable , inducted through the passage of time , the meaning and use are not really separate in the sense of syntax but in the use of the word in different contexts.

The same meaning , ‘heavy’ pertains to both uses, for all uses stream from the same word. That the appear contextually different is also a misnomer, because as ’ heavy’ is applied into different uses, it bears the identical meaning.

How is that? The heaviness of anything can change the contextual quality, and not the other way around.

We can apply ‘grave’ to any intended association, thereby declaring it into as many effects as we are intent on doing. Some have become conventional meaning direct to the original Mean ing, others may become unconventional .

If I were to say that a flower had a certain gravity about it, as it hung sadly from lack of sunlight, such would appear totally discordant from ordinary conventional sense of the usage, but it will still retain the similarity to the word. The context need to have adapted the characteristic similar to the conventional one, where ‘grave’ is associated with a conscious solemnity. However such inconsistency will not negate the use from the definition of primary meaning.

New Muse.

Getting along with my fellow planeteers.

Am I nuts? What’s a ventilator? A set of bellows a couple of valves and a power source. Shit sounds sort of like a furnace without the heat. Couple of boards and hinges, some plastic bags and tubes and hot melt glue and a volunteer or three to man it. Free food to exercises. Flutter valves in combination and a piston, a human driven air compressor for ventilation.

Funny I went to fleet farm to buy vegetable seed. It was on sale and there was plenty, bought a couple of window box planters and potting soil; on sale. Passed through the guns and ammo department. Lines were long at the counter to register to buy a gun and the shelves were empty of ammo. Dumb.

So can’t breath come to me, nothing to eat come to us. We’ll make sure there is air to breath and food to eat and any help would be appreciated.

No guns or ammo required.

Bailing out the airline industry is nuts. Let them go under, and lay off their employees. We can feed them and keep us breathing without having to pay for the overhead of a corporate structure to keep it running. Who’s been doing it all along anyway??

It seems to boil down to the notion of, are we in this together or, is it every man for himself. Witness the result of each. They will end up in equilibrium like always, but make the choice just for kicks all the same.

I have hated you all and have loved you too. And visa versa, That’s nuts. In the all for one camp. Yeah!

I mean it’s a couple of liters of air. How much effort does it take to move that around? Pull up as you inhale push down as you exhale, and you are pretty much simulating what a human requires to breath.
Creating a pressure differential.

If you have a bicycle pump you’ve got the makings for a respirator.

A better mask.

A face mask that isolates ones eyes nose and mouth from the virus. It’s only known points of entry. Two one way valves, one in and one out, passing both incoming breath and out going exhalation through open cell foam disinfectant filters.

Prevent the virus from getting into a host to reproduce, and if infected prevents the virus from leaving the host capable of reproduction.

I am a clever bloke, best not come to me claiming what is ours is yours, as capitalists and robbers tend toward doing. I am just barely smart enough to fuck shit up.

Most certainly in the us camp, as long as “us” means you do not make the mistake that ours is yours.

And if push would come to shove a bellows is a ventilator. Provide as mush oxygen as you can. Let the lungs natural elasticity do the exhaling, or if two are present the second could compress the chest manually in rhythm. Inhale, exhale.

Hello Mowk.

My wife is on CPAP. If ever she gets it, it could serve as respirator. The only problem, it spews out the unfiltered exhaled air.

It has been looked at as an alternative, but dismissed as harboring too much risk.

Hello Meno_.
My wife has been on a CPAP machine as well. I’ve looked at it from the respirator perspective but I’m not seeing how that would work.

To the best of my awareness the ventilators used in hospitals simply filter the exhaled air and I don’t know what size particle that filter was designed to trap. That’s one of the problems requiring the use of PPE in the care of individuals hospitalized. I think it is a problem of isolation at the source. Masks and filters for that matter simply attempt to stop the spread through entrapment, yet make no attempt to render the bug incapable of reproducing else where.

If sick and must wear a mask, that person is forced to re-inhale the problem causing virus over and over again. It would seem like that could be making it harder to recover from. What would, I think be helpful, is a mask that traps the bug and an renders it incapable of reproducing on contact within the “trap”. For those not infected, a mask that entraps the bug and renders it harmless before it is breathed into the lungs to reproduce. If we could do that it would not be the bug it is.

Many countries have gone so far as to go out in the world and attempt to sanitize the outside surroundings.

The effectiveness of an N-95 mask. When properly fit, is designed to catch 0.3 micron particles, 95% of the time. *

I’m not thinking making your own mask out of denim and curtain lining is going to provide much protection. But maybe if you used a HEPA vacuum cleaner bag you might have more luck.

Another note is the virus travels on larger molecules or clumps of cells like mucus, and even T-shirt cotton when folded a few time can catch material that large. Like I said it would be helpful to render the bug harmless as well in these forms of traps.

Just saw an article about converting a BiPAP device into a ventilator. But not a CPAP device.
usnews.com/news/health-news … entilators.

But I suppose if you could rig the air pressure though some sort of external mechanical oscillator, a breathing rhythm could be produced from the constant air pressure produced by a CPAP machine . Add a HEPA filter or two, and you’ve got a primitive ventilator. The device would need some controls to regulate things like air volume and delivery pressure, breathing rhythm, pause time between cycles.

A new mask design. An airtight fitted mask with a one-way valve in it. This would allow for a filter comprised of cotton fabric lined with a HEPA material to filter incoming air, paired to an exhalation filter designed to “kill” the virus and retire it in place.

The mask would be constructed of a material that can easily be disinfected and it’s filters replaced as circumstance requires.

Get these on the faces of every possible carrier. And attack the remaining virus population on the outside of living organisms where it can’t reproduce.

The Gov. of New York city shared that a N-95 mask sold for 79 cents in January and they are being sold on-line in march for over 7 dollars. Well that is an example of capitalism in play scrabbling to make a quick buck or seven, a greater and greater return on investment. Nothing other than any capitalist does. And just now, that is crooked? WTF?

It is what is happening in the professionalization of sport and those franchises.
It is what is happening in entertainment in general through the idea of a “star” is born. And the financial influence of an Academy Award.
It is what is happening in stock fund management in the financial sector.
It is what is happening now when our government uses it’s citizens taxes to support corporations that are too big to fail. Corporations are just people with vastly dissimilar assets.

And just now buying low and selling high is crooked?

“And a god looked at all that he created and exclaimed it is good.”

Just what sort of imagination does one require to make some sense from that?

Bend and stretch; exercise.

In the most extreme examples of ventilation requirement a tube is inserted into the patients air way that requires blocking it entirely to prevent the respiratory system from collapsing. In those cases feeding can only be accomplish via the bloods circulatory system. That’s when the shit gets critical.

So far I’ve been through two Covid screenings and the question is now in the hands of my primary care provider. Have been home since our state issued a statewide “Safer at Home” order, but only started wearing a home made mask within the last week. Sure would suck if I’m been responsible for spreading it around.

I’ve been to the grocery store twice, (most recent trip wearing a mask. Fleet Farm once, no mask, (before the recommendation), Home Depot once, no mask, (before the recommendation), Local Liquor store once, wore a mask, Local pharmacy twice, once to find out they were sold out of thermometers , second time wore a mask to find out they were sold out of Oximeters, and got may hair cut once, prior to showing symptoms.

Still have a dry cough, shortness of breath, and fatigue. Haven’t had a fever in over a month.

A nurse got back to me with the doctors recommendations. There isn’t a reliable test yet to determine if I’ve developed antibodies. And if I am over it there wouldn’t be a virus left that currents test could detect. Some experience permanent lung damage so the symptoms remaining are consistent with that. She suggested blowing up a balloon once a day as a way to check if my lung capacity has been affected and monitor the symptoms to see if they get worse, and of course she suggested quitting smoking.

Interesting to note that all four of my grandparents lived through the Spanish flu pandemic.