a new understanding of today, time and space.

so, we have a crisis on our hands… California has
basically shut down… not my work, but so many people
and children are at home right now… and the number
is in the millions here of people staying home…

what should be the “philosophic” response be?

why should people even turn to philosophy in this time
of crisis?

why should people engage in philosophy?

instead of say, religion or science?

how would I convince an average person that an engagement
with philosophy would be beneficial or helpful or even wanted?

I have laid out three possibilities, science, religion or philosophy…

science is a tool, a very useful tool, but nevertheless just a tool…
science can explain the how something works, but not why something
works… science can tell us the earth is 93 million miles from the sun,
and science can tell us that we live, planet earth, in that
zone where life can be created and exist… good stuff, but
can science tell us what does it mean that we exist and why?

we have religion that can be used to create meaning in our lives,
but religion is deterministic, which means, we don’t have free choice
in religions…god created the heaven and earth, god created
heaven and hell, we have angels and demons and we have sin which
according to the Christian religion, all people have, not much choice
there…note that it doesn’t leave much room for human beings when
this is god doing everything and creating everything…

some religions are as deterministic as Christianity, but even something
Buddhism where the goal is to escape being reborn, which people have
no control over, we continue to be reborn until we become “enlightened”
and at that point, we overcome being reborn… as if being born is
such a terrible thing… life itself is something worth escaping from…
because in this life, we suffer and the point is to escape suffering,
so what if we suffer… that is the price of existence and a price, I for one,
am willing to pay…

yes, religions give us why, but are they answers that offer us something
like free will or escape from determinism?

religions take responsibility out of our hands… and place it somewhere
else and that is to my mind anyway, unacceptable…

only philosophy can offer us some answers, however, I am not sure
philosophy will offer us solace that other possible solutions might offer us…

let us explore philosophy as one possible answer… however that must
occur later as I am late for work…

Kropotkin

we have the Coronavirus, hereby called CV and we
have to create some sort of response to this CV…

what responses are possible for us?

my last post was about Philosophy and so that is where
I shall start… Philosophy and CV…

how do we create a philosophical response to CV?

we first of all, explore the traditional areas of philosophy…

the 5 main fields of philosophy…

Epistemology: the study of knowledge, how can we know what we know…

Metaphysics: the study of “reality” that is beyond the scientific or mathematical
realms…

Ethics: the study of moral values…

Logic: the study of right reasoning…

Aesthetics: the study of art and beauty…

There is no obvious point of contact between philosophy and
CV in any of these area’s of study…

perhaps let us try this, what are the various schools/branches in philosophy?

we have, in the 20th century, various schools of thought, such as phenomenology,
existentialism, logical positivism, pragmatism and linguistic turn for examples…

can we find some sort of connection between CV and these branches/schools of
thought?

right off the bat, we can eliminate certain schools, logical positivism
and linguistic turn for example doesn’t apply to our question of what is
our approach to CV……

and we can reject phenomenology as well…

so we are left with pragmatism and existentialism…

pragmatism considers words and thought as tool and instruments
for prediction, problem solving and action and rejects the idea that
the function of thought is to describe, represent, or mirror reality.

existentialism is the tradition of philosophical enquiry which takes
as its starting point the experience of the human subject, not merely
the thinking subject, but the acting, feeling, living human being……

it seems to me that we could combine the two… we can be
practical and problem solve with some thought about
what we need to do to be safe during this crisis…

but we can also work out the acting, feeling, living human beings
that we are…

The Buddha began with the notion of suffering… we all suffer with
sickness, old age and death… but I say unto you, I don’t see sickness,
old age and death as suffering… I see them as part of the human experience
and necessary parts of the human experience…

we are biology beings… and as such, we are subject to the
trials and tribulations of biology beings… we get sick, we grow old
and we die… that is not suffering, that is existence…part of what
and who we are…

one such response to CV is simple, it is part of existence…
we get sick and it is part of our experiences…that doesn’t mean
we go out and get ourselves sick to experience, no, but it does mean
we don’t have to become fearful or frighten by sickness………

we have forgotten that sickness is a fundamental aspect
of existence. We will get sick in our lives… and there is no
getting around that

the act or our being is about an equation…one of the basic definitions of
life is this: homeostasis which is the tendency toward a relatively stable
equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by
physiological processes…our bodies balance out… that is one working definition
of good health…out bodies have balance, balance in eating and exercise
and weight and work and play and activity and resting and intellectual thought
and physical action…the path to good health is through having balance
in our lives…being sick throws our balance out of whack… we are now
unbalanced… that is being sick…and to return to balance, we
must overcome our illness… we rest, we drink plenty of fluids,
we don’t exert ourselves…we take whatever pills or medicine the
doctor orders and we follow their orders…

now at no point have we gone outside of the human experience…
part of human existence is to maintain balance and failing that,
we become sick… this is not rocket science people…

the seven characteristics of life includes:

responsiveness to the environment;
growth and change;
have a metabolism and breathe;
maintain homeostasis;
being made of cells; and
passing traits onto offspring;

we simply accept the fact that we human beings will get sick…
we simply understand that getting sick is part of the gig of
being human and biological…

we don’t have to go out of our way to become sick although
some people do in fact, go out of their way to become sick…

our current and present response to CV is simply this…
we try to avoid it as best we can

and that being sick is a part of life… an unhappy but also
unavoidable part of life… so what is our philosophical response to
CV?

Next post

Kropotkin

this is the next post…

I think that the reason we have such issues is that we take our
positions ad hoc… which is to say, we make it up… unions, um,
I think that union are good or unions are bad… and we hold
individual, separate idea’s about people, events, idea’s…

instead we should hold a unified, whole complete picture
of who we are and what is out possibilities……

so, what is your response to the CV?

If we ad hoc it, then we have a hard time trying to work it
into our philosophical understanding of the world…

but, if we have a comprehensive overall, way of life understanding
of the world, then we can tie CV into that overall system…

let us take an example, Epicureanism: the system of philosophy
based on the teaching of Epicurus, and the greatest good is to
seek modest pleasures in order to attain a state of tranquility,
freedom from fear (ataraxia) and absence from bodily pain (aponia)

we use Epicureanism as our way of life, as our base understanding of
the world…it is easy to then create an understanding of CV into
an already existing system……as we try to avoid illness and avoid
passing that illness to others, so they can avoid pain, we can follow
the current recommendations of the state or the doctors…

we only have a hard tying new ideas and thoughts into
a patchwork of idea’s and thoughts and maps that we
have of the world and the universe……

in other words, our very beliefs are a patchwork of ism’s
and ideologies and habits and superstitions and prejudices
and biases…… we don’t have unified, overall “way of life”
thinking about who we are and what is the world and what are
our possibilities…

our idea’s and thoughts are a patchwork of various assorted
mix of ism’s and ideologies and prejudices and habits and biases and…

Why?

because most of us have never actually worked out what we really believe in…

we still hold to the patchwork of indoctrinations that we received as children…

indoctrinations we received from the family or the state or the media or
religion or socially…

our personal belief system is a patchwork of various mishmash of wildly different
idea’ and ism’s and ideologies…

there is ‘no rhyme or reason’ to the collection of beliefs we hold about
the world… we don’t have a unified, coherent belief system about the world

we don’t have a “way of life” understanding of the world…
everything is ad hoc…

this explains the wildly diverse and often contradictory beliefs we hold
both individually and collectively…

if you have a unified, coherent belief system which you practice
as a way of life, then it is easy to have a philosophical response to
CV or to respond to an ever changing environment or to think
about different idea’s or ism’s……

the problem lies within our failure to hold to a coherent,
unified belief system which we then practice as a way of life…

it isn’t about CV being the problem, it is about how we respond to it…

you can hold to a coherent, unified belief system and still be able to
adapt to ever changing conditions that life presents to us…

our philosophy, our history, our economics, our various responses
and understanding of the world is ad hoc… stitched together from
various sources and held together by duck tape and hope…

this is true individually and collectively…

and how can one respond philosophically to CV when all our
understanding of the world is stitched together from various
diverse sources?

what beliefs do you hold?

are they a coherent, unified whole?
or are they stitch together from wildly diverse
sources? are your beliefs ad hoc?

Kropotkin

so given my last post, what is Marxism?

an attempt to create a unified, coherent picture of
the world and our place in it… both individually and collectively…

and what is Socialism? an attempt to create a unified, coherent picture
of the world and our place in it.

and what is capitalism? another attempt but a failed one… failed?

why is capitalism a failure? because the key factor in capitalism is
this idea of the “hand of god” that somehow steers the system correctly…
this hand of god, the market forces, is a “Deus ex Machina” and nothing more…

the “hand of god” is a contrived plot twist that allows the system to
exploit and dehumanized people and their values……

as exhibited by our current economic situation…

we have the concept of supply and demand…
thus when we have many workers, wages go down,
but when we have few workers, wages go up…
and in our current economic situation… (well before CV blew up
the economic world) wages didn’t go up in the way it ought to have if
supply and demand were truly the way the system worked…

wages went up modestly when they should have gone up quite fast to
reach the supply and demand part of the American economy…

supply and demand doesn’t work in regards to wages and thus supply
and demand as a theory doesn’t work, and yet we still believe…

our ad hoc belief system has a hard time keeping up with
the current situation…beliefs, once believed in, become
hard as a rock part, of our belief system…

we hold our beliefs even in the face of evidence that disproves
that particular belief……. we are human in this way…

and this is true of beliefs we were indoctrinated with as children…

we have a young kid who is transitioning from male to female at work…
his name is Thomas but now he wants to be called Jazz… I am having
a very hard time making the adjustment… once I learn someone name,
I have a hard time breaking away from that name…being old means
we don’t handle changes well…

but that is different then holding beliefs… Thomas or Jazz doesn’t
impact my belief system…it is a temporary matter what he/she calls
themselves and I don’t really care…because it doesn’t impact my life

whereas holding a belief and finding that belief is wrong or misguided,
is impactful, very impactful in one’s life…and potentially life changing…
whereas learning to call a person Thomas or Jazz isn’t life changing for me…

however from Thomas/Jazz viewpoint, being called the right name does
have an impact… life changing? I couldn’t say… but it is impactful…

and that is the next point, viewpoint…some people are willing to go to war
over oil or resources or ism’s and ideologies but not everyone is willing to
go to war over the same thing… different viewpoints allow us to
take actions over different things… whereas some things don’t move me,
they might move you… I can’t say…

but if we hold different diverse beliefs, then at times we might go to
war over something and other times we might not, depending…
our belief system being ad hoc, will often then lead to us taking
actions at different points… we might fight at one point being called
a jerk, whereas at another time, we laugh at them for calling us a jerk…

our responses to events, people, ism’s and ideologies is wildly
different because we have ad hoc beliefs and ad hoc beliefs
don’t remain in one place…they are every changing and moving…

and so one day, we might be moved to action and another day, we might not…
depends on our mood and that is because we don’t hold to beliefs as a “way of life”…

beliefs for the modern man is simply what is convenient at the time…
not being for use yesterday or tomorrow, just useful today…

and we cannot build a coherent, unified belief system if our beliefs only hold
true at some points but not at other points…

so what is capitalism? it is a ad hoc understanding of how the world works…

Kropotkin

and now something completely different:

I was reading about Hypermodernity on Wiki and I came across
something that struck me…

Here is the first line of the thread:

“Hypermodernity (supermodernity) is a type, mode or state of society
that reflects an inversion of modernity in which the function of an object has its
reference point in the form of an object rather then function being the reference point
for form.”

Now look at the opening paragraph… what is missing?
and why is the thing that is missing is the problem with
modernism and philosophy.

Kropotkin

and I at this moment reading on Wiki about modernism and
it has the exact same missing item…

see for yourself…

then tell me, what is missing?

Kropotkin

It is because of a failure to account for the transvaluation inherent in the way the object is constructed: as construed.
transcendentally, or reductivelly,

K, how are things in the market, are lines long, are people impatient and panicking? Does that make Your job any more stressful? Here in Los Angeles its like a nightmare, I can not find potatoes or rice, !

these two particular articles and many more about
modern philosophy all are missing something…

the articles don’t begin with or end with people…

they talk about objects and reference points and form
and technology and information and matter… but it doesn’t begin
with the people…you hear about people second hand if at all…

and that is the problem with modern philosophy… it misses the most
important part of philosophy which is people…

philosophy, all philosophy must begin with people and then
spread out to objects, idea’s, matter, ism’s and ideologies…

modern philosophy begins with the world and then refers back
to the people and not the other way…

even such philosophers like Hegel, spent much time talking about
such things as spirit and history and matter, but what about
people?

the less said the better, at least according to every philosophy
after Kant… and of course there are exceptions… and they
are know as the existentialists…….

so to paraphrase Socrates, we must return philosophy to
be about people, not idea’s or forms or matter or spirit
or history…nope, people is where we must begin our
philosophy………and then spread out from there…

Kropotkin

K: here near San Francisco, it is no different… long, barren shelf’s and people
panicking big time… this idea of sheltering in place… people apparently
think it means to go to the supermarket… on the plus side, I have never,
ever had so many people thank me for going to work… nice to be wanted…

Kropotkin

In these tumultuous times, we often forget to
reconnect with who we are……

who am I and where do I want to go?

being and becoming…

these turbulent and rocky times shall soon pass into
night and we will still be faced with the existential
questions of existence……….

as they say, keep your eyes on the prize…

But in light of the times, we can make some
reevaluations…

we have been reduced to basic necessities…

Here in California, we have no place to go…
bars, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, everything
is closed down… the only thing that is sure to be open
are pharmacies and supermarkets…food and medicine…

we are beginning to see how we are connected to
the pyramid of Maslow… the lowest level is about
the basics of existence… food, water, shelter,
education and health care………

we are reduced to existing on this bottom level of
existence… those higher levels of esteem and love
and belonging are set to the side…put off till tomorrow…

we begin to see how we are engaged in those higher levels
of existence…with safety and love/belonging and esteem…
they are something above the bottom level of existence…

and given the times, what do things like promotions
and titles and wealth have to do with us, given our current
situation? does having a title or that promotion, protect
one from getting the CV?

Does having that title protect one enough to leave the house?

We must ask ourselves in these times of troubles, what is
really important? To us, both individually and collectively?

We are faced with an almost unprecedented situation and what
will we learn about being human in this crisis?

It is not enough to respond to this situation but to think beyond it
and wonder what it means to be human in any situation?

what am I to do? what am I to hope for? what can we know?

the Kantian questions of existence should become our questions
of existence…the Kropotkin questions of existence should also
be asked of ourselves…

what should we spend our energy on? what values should we hold?

as Newton and Einstein showed us, it often isn’t the answers we
should be working on, but the questions we should be asking…

the greatness of Newton and Einstein was about the questions they
asked, not the answers they gave…

anyone who says, I have all the answers, is a fool…

because answers given are the answers needed at this second…
in another second, those answers are often the wrong answers…
or they are irrelevant answers…….

answers often have the problem of being time sensitive and of the moment…

we must keep re asking the questions in hopes of asking the right question
at the right time………

when I was 21, I ask questions and my answers were right, at 21…
when I was 31, I asked questions and my answers were right, at 31…
when I was 41, I asked questions and my answers were right, at 41…

but those same questions and answers have no meaning, given I am now
61……

and are the questions of my youth, appropriate given the current status
of the world?

I don’t see how…

our age and experiences create a new set of questions that need to be
answered… as I age and become a victim of entropy… I
know that I cannot become that young man of vitality and strength
that I was 20 or 30 years ago…… so, who am I now?

we spend our lives redefining who we are, given our current
situation in time… I cannot define myself as I once did when I
was 21 or 31 or even 51…

What am I to do? what should I hope for? what can I know?
What values should I hold? what should I spend my energy on?

my answers are different today then they were 20 or 30 years ago…

and given the crisis we are in today, are my answers any different, given
what is happening today?

What am I to do? What should I hope for? what can I know?

It seems to me, that given our tumultuous age, the answers
to those Kantian questions are, today, different then they
were say, at the beginning of the year…just 2 and a half months
ago…

every new experience requires, demands a new accounting of
the basic questions of existence… What am I to do?
what should I hope for? what can I know?

the answers changes every single day…

it is not enough to set our beliefs on cruise control
and never think about it again… no, we must engage
and reengage with the basic questions of existence
every day because every day is a new and different day…

What am I to do? had another answer yesterday and will
have another answer tomorrow……

but we cannot exist “ad hoc”… which is to say created to met
a particular purpose and in a particular place…
when necessary or needed…

we must somehow have an overall understanding of our existence…

and that answer lies in our using philosophy or values that are used
to have a “way of life”… in other words, we use philosophy as
a “way of life”

and in doing so, we can create an overall understanding of existence
and we can also, if need be, adapt to the changing circumstances
that we find ourselves in…

What am I to do? if I hold to a “way of life” then I can find my
own answer to this vital question……

what are you to do?

is your answer “ad hoc” or is your answer, part of an
overall understanding of who you are and what is your
place in the universe?

Kropotkin

one of the Kantian/Kropotkin questions is:

How does one gain “inner peace”?

that they are many, many possible means of human pursuit is
clear… for example, many have suggested that the answer to the
question, What am I to do? has to do with seeking pleasure or perhaps
avoiding pain or as the Buddha suggests, trying to eliminate suffering…
or as the founding fathers suggested, seeking “happiness” whatever the
hell happiness is…

does one gain “inner peace” via these possible methods or does
one gain “inner peace” by another means?

I would suggest that finding “inner peace” by those society’s goal
is a failure… for example, does a wealthy man have “inner peace”?

I have known many a wealthy person and believe me, they do not
have anything resembling “inner peace”…

I would suggest that the search for the modern ism’s and ideologies
requirements of wealth and fame and titles and promotions, do
nothing for one to gain “inner peace”…

but asking to gain “inner peace” as a goal, avoids the real question
which is this, is “inner peace” really “what I am suppose to do?”

is that really what “I am supposed to do?”…

are the questions of existence really answered by seeking “inner peace?”

at this point in my life, I have contentment… is that enough?

did I do anything extraordinary to achieve “contentment?”

no, not at all… I simply accepted that which is… I am old…
and at some point in time, sooner then later, I shall die…
I have accepted the things that the Buddha said caused suffering,
sickness, old age and death…and by accepting them, they haunt
me no more…

did I need to search the universe to reach this level of understanding?

Nope, I simply accepted…nothing more……

am I happy? I have no idea… but I don’t think happiness
is really what life is all about anyway…

why am I a philosopher?

because I challenge the basic assumptions of modern America…

the search for, as our founding fathers put it, “the pursuit of life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness” isn’t what should motivate us…

nor should this search for the modern “rewards” be the point…

the modern rewards one might seek is fame, wealth, titles, promotions…

But Kropotkin, if you remove or eliminate these things, what else is there?

what else should we be engaged with if not the pursuit of wealth or fame,
or titles or promotions?

the Kantian question: “What am I to do?”

try as one might, you can cannot escape this existential question of
existence…

“what should I hope for?”

is there a god or heaven or hell or angels or sin?

no Virginia, there is no evidence of any kind that
there is a god or heaven or hell or angels or sin…

why rely on unproven statements…

But Kropotkin, all statements are unproven…

the Kantian question: “What can we know?”

How can I know the “truth?”

what truth is, is found in our diverse and varied understanding of
the world… what “truth” there is, is different because our
viewpoints are different…… “What can I know?” is different then “what can
you know?” because we have diverse and different viewpoints……

my truth is different then your truth……

because my viewpoint is different then your viewpoint…

So, What am I to do?"…….

But Kropotkin, you are offering your “truths” as the “truth”…
no, no I am not… I am simply offering you one possible truth…

But Kropotkin, you are contradicting yourself……

good…

for the truth is only found in the contradictions of life…

Kropotkin, you make no sense…

and so what?

life doesn’t make sense… that is the real truth of existence…

I offer up no answers… I only offer up questions…

Kropotkin

double post… apologies

do we follow such people as the Buddha and Schopenhauer by
thinking that the only way to stop suffering is to end desire…

but desire, the wanting of something can’t be all bad…

I desire love… and love is one of the essential aspects of
life… without love, life isn’t worth living… but I desire…
and to desire is to suffer… or is it?

I also desire knowledge… is the pursuit of knowledge, also
the cause of suffering?

some knowledge is, in part, going to cause suffering…

the one I love, loves another… that knowledge will cause
suffering…….

but not all knowledge causes suffering…

I can “know” things and not face suffering…

the knowledge of my impending death can cause suffering…
but it can also cause contentment because I cannot under
any circumstances, stop my impeding death… I must, must,
accept my impeding death, be it one year from now or 30 years from now…

I don’t believe that suffering is caused by desire… it depends upon what
is desired and what is the knowledge gained…

I believe the desire for wisdom, although it may cause, may cause,
suffering, in the end, the wisdom we gain outweighs any suffering we might face…

desire is a tool… and just like any other tool, how you use it, will decide
upon the amount of “suffering” one faces when using that tool…

logic is also a tool as is math as is any discipline as history or economics
or philosophy or political science… its use will determine its fate…
and our suffering…

does desire cause suffering?

it depends upon what you desire and how
you what means you use to gain that desire…

Kropotkin

as I work in a grocery store, my hours got crazy busy,
I shall be back in a few days, maybe mid-week…

Kropokin

:text-bravo: :text-thankyouyellow:

Heroes, one and all! [-o<

K: thank from your very tired friend…

Kropotkin

I am back earlier then I thought because of an illness…
I was really hot and was sweating at work and my breathing
became difficult and those are classic CV symptoms… so immediately left work…
I saw my doctor and she sent me to the hospital for test…it turned out to
be an infection…for which I am taking antibiotics… but nothing serious like CV…

but I have a couple of days off and… here I am…

Voltaire once wrote in his Dictionaire Philosophique:

“Everything is governed by immutable laws… everything is prearranged…
everything is necessary effect…”

this type of thinking is Newtonian… classic thinking of the universe
as being a watch and god is a watchmaker…

and even Einstein believed in this type of universe… “God do not play
dice with the universe” or the universe isn’t ruled by chance…
and yet, modern science, from the theories of evolution to
quantum mechanics suggest that the universe is ruled by
nothing more then “the toss of the dice”…evolution
has as it basis, probability/chance………

how do we reconcile the idea that the universe has laws,
basic laws which cannot be violated, Gravity for example
and still have a probabilistic universe?

This is the basic scientific question of our time…
how do we reconcile a watchmaker universe with
a universe that is probabilistic?

let us take entropy for example…

entropy is a basic fact of the universe… but entropy is a law, yes,
but it is random in its actions…we cannot escape entropy but
we cannot predict or know in what fashion entropy will work…
we can of course know how entropy works when we drop ice into
a warm glass of water… that is basic entropy at work…

but let us take the entropy in our bodies… that is random…
the way I age is the function of several diverse actions…
both from my actions, eating or exercising properly and from
outside sources like air pollution and the type of work I do…
and from my inner, bodily functions like the way my cells
operate which is independent of my voluntary actions and
the outside sources like pollution……

I cannot predict how my body will engage in entropy, which is
to say, how my body will age…I look very young for being 61…
and yet my inner “body” has some issues… bad back, bad knees,
bad hips… I am clearly aging… or engaging in entropy as it were…

I cannot predict how my body will function in a year or two…
I can tell you it will be worse or rather said, it will become
more entropic… going from order to disorder……

and at some point, it will become so disordered, I will die…

but how do we reconcile the human entropy with the universal
laws of gravity?

remember, even a watch suffers from entropy… going from order
to disorder… just very slowly…and that is another little brick in the
wall… the rate of entropy is different for different bodies, be it
biological or mechanical or natural…… biological being human bodies,
mechanical being cars and natural being the solar system…

so let us take the current crisis as a study in entropy…

we have ordered systems, be it economic or political or
social… what the virus has done is slow down the or stopped
the amount of order within those systems… when the
medical system is overwhelmed as it is right now,
it moves from being ordered to disordered…when the
economic system that the right wing loves so much, becomes
disordered by everything shutting down, then the system
becomes disordered…

we can see entropy at work in the world today when
various systems become disordered from the effects
of the CV…

that is entropy… when a system goes from ordered to disordered…

it will take energy… in the form of actual energy, to types of energy
which is time, money, effort, and the participation of people to
reengage, to take a disordered system/systems and move them to order…

and so once again, how do we connect the universal laws of
such theories as gravity to entropy?

one might suggest that even such theories as gravity isn’t immune
to disorder and entropy… perhaps gravity itself is slowly
and slowly enough for us not to be able to measure it, perhaps gravity
itself is engaged in entropy… it slowly grows less… perhaps we have less
gravity now then we did a million years ago… in which case, at some point,
because we don’t have the knowhow or technology to repair it,
gravity itself becomes disordered… and becomes more chaotic…

we might have less gravity and thus the laws of the universe might not
be universal and constant… they too suffer from entropy… the movement from
order to disorder…in which case the universe itself will some day simply
die from too much disorder… just as our bodies eventually die from
the transition from order to disorder……

I have heard scientist talk about the end of the universe in which
the atoms, the very atoms themselves no longer bond because of
disorder and that is the end of the universe…… when the universe
can no longer have enough order to maintain itself in a cohesive manner,
that is the universe itself becomes disordered, entropy will one day
win out and rule the universe…

so the very laws we see as universal and unchangeable are really just
at a temporary state of seeming to be universal………we just aren’t
able to detect or measure the rate of entropy in the universe yet…

and according to science, it doesn’t exists if it can’t be timed, measure,
weighed, or scanned……….but how do we time or measure or weigh
or scanned a process that is always in process or happening?

every single system in the universe has a different rate of entropy…
a different rate of disorder going on within that system…

my rate of decay or disordered into old age is different then your rate
of disorder and decay… we cannot time or measure or weigh that…

so the problem still stands… how do we reconcile the different rates
of disorder and decay in the different systems?

Kropotkin

Hi. Mr. K here is something gravitation that might ignite a connection of Newton with a metaphors of Einstein:

Oh Gravity,
Take me with you
Void me of all emotions
Oh Gravity,
Let me free
Detach me from these strings
Break the chains that bind me
Oh Gravity,
Help me forget
Give me a moment of peace
Oh Gravity,
Devour the melancholy in me
Drown me in your emptiness
Oh Gravity,
Put out the fire in me
Erase the darkness within me
Pull me away from these shadows into the world of light
Oh Gravity,
Let me sink
Let me disappear
Oh Gravity,
Take me away from here…

Post script: my first job in LA was a bagger in Safeway, then during the union strike, I became a butcher trends -. Could not stand the cold! But I stuck with it until the strike was over.

let us say I am familiar with Safeway… down south
it is called Vons… and leave it at that…

Kropotkin

it is our rate of understanding of entropy that also changes…

when I was younger, say 40, I could tell I couldn’t do the things I did
when I was 19 or 20…but it didn’t dawn on me that that was entropy or
as we humans call it, old age. Now that I am 61, it is quite clear
I am well in the midst of entropy or old age…

my understanding of who I am/was and what my place is/was,
has changed as I have gotten older…

if I try to explain to a 20 year old, what it means to get old,
they would have no idea because they don’t have the
experiences or knowledge to understand me…

but if I explain what is love or what is some bodily need, they
would understand because it is something they have knowledge
of or have experienced themselves…

to most people, what I write is gobbledygook because what I write
is outside of their knowledge or experience…I seem to be really dumb
or quite obscure because what I write doesn’t fit into most people experiences
or knowledge ……. but no matter how I try to reduce it or bring it down to
earth, until they experience it, people will never get what I am trying to say…
and that is ok……

my knowledge and experiences are just that, mine…
and I don’t need or require that you understand that knowledge
or experience…just as you don’t need me to understand your
knowledge or experience…

but I can get you to reexamine and reevaluate what you believe in
and what you take to be “your” values and biases and superstitions
and prejudices and indoctrinations………are your values and understanding
of the world really “yours” or do you hold those indoctrinated values of
childhood given to you by your family and the state and the media and
the church?

that is really the choice I am giving you…what are your values
and are they really your values or have you simply carried on
those childhood indoctrinations?

a good, a really good example of someone who has never examined
their values is IQ45… he still lives by and understands the world by
his childhood indoctrinations…indoctrinations of family and state
and church and social groups and society…….

I began my reexamination of my values because of the contradictions
I discovered between what I was told and what I found out about the world
was… I found that my indoctrinations of childhood and my experiences
of the world were different…and by examining my own values, I could
reconcile those contradictions between the theory of my indoctrinations
and the reality of my life…… I fashioned my understanding of the world,
based on my experiences of the world instead of the indoctrinations
I received as a child…

I reexamined my values given to me as a child and found them wanting…
those values were unable to offer me an understanding of the world
that matched what I found on the ground, in reality…

and so I had to adjust my values to match the experiences
and reality of what I found…

I was told about god, but in my experiences, I found
I had no need for god… the belief in god didn’t help me
with understanding my own possibilities or my reality…

it interfered with it and so I became an Atheist because it
better matched my experiences and understanding of the world…

I adapted my values to match what I experienced and saw in the world…

the disconnect people feel in the world is because their childhood
indoctrinations don’t match the reality, the experience they find
in the world…the disconnect is between their childhood indoctrinations
and the reality on the ground… but they don’t reexamine their values
because that forces them to admit that, possibly, their understanding
of the world is wrong… and we hate to admit we are wrong…
that is human nature…

Kropotkin