IAMB IS AN ASS…HERE’S WHY.
Right he would have been telling the tribe that either Xanti can demonstrate it to all of their satisfaction in the tribe or it is ‘in his head’. Two, for some tribes it might have been decades or lifetimes - like say with the Vikings on Newfoundland.
He’s ignoring the fact that in that particular case there was a delay of X length, but in other cases, there might be a vastly longer delay.
I doubt he wants to deal with the rape victim example, where people can know things happened, but cannot demonstrate it.
And at what point in the delay does he think we are in RIGHT NOW.
All things that are true will be shown to all rational people to be true within…what 10 years, 15 years…How long is he asserting?
Well, he’s not. Because he never thinks through the implications of his own assumptions. We have to point them out. As a rule. Then he counters, while never admitting or conceding a damn thing, with more assumptions. We have to keep pointing up new assumptions, since he never concedes anything, just comes with more.
He can’t take one moment to take responsibility for his own arguments, to wonder over them a bit. So, he creates vast amounts of work for other people.
And then there are situations where expertise mean that other observers will not have it demonstrated for them: the example of rogue waves. Now we are dealing with very long period of time where seafaring humans enountered huge solitary waves in otherwise relatively calm seas. There was no way to demonstrate this to all rational people. And once science arose, after centuries and centuries of reporting these ANOMOLOUS but real phenomena, scientists said the seafaring humans were exaggerating, hallucinating, lying or letting the emotions get to them, because there was no justification for this in current science. Note: many scientists and others opted to avoid the parsimonious agnositic position, and said the seafareres were wrong. Later technology changed with video cameras that recorded the waves, though it was only when satellite tech got good enough and the scienstists could see the damn things that they went back to their drawing boards.
Not once did many of them consider that given the different experiences they had from the seafarers, the lack therein, they were commenting as if they knew something which they did not. They were not experts and had, like iamb, no experience.
Iamb would have been telling people for thousands of years - before we had tech to prove it - that these rogue waves were all in these people’s heads. And I think in the end that makes him an asshole. Not so uncommon a kind of asshole but our primary example of it here at ILP of this kind of asshole.
Laziness. Not remembering when his ‘objections’ have long ago been countered. Always shifting the onus. Little dramatic playings to the gallery. Not even willing to consider his own behavior and assumptions. Denying he is saying things even when you can quote them. Expressions of incredulity, often where he should have asked for clarification, since he clearly does not understand.
It’s asshole behavior.