… and Jesus?
Hey Greatest,
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of religion, nor a practitioner, but I do accept that the rise and evolution of religions throughout history was inevitable as our societies grew and competed. To say “they are/were useless” is stress-inducing, because gives you a worse view of people in general than you need to have, and we all belong to the group ‘people’. 
I hated religion for a long time. Denied it, bargained with it, accepted it, now I’ve come to a point of forgiving it. I still know it’s all baloney, but eh. You gotta move on.
Can these gods cure the coronavirus?
Lol… of course they can!
The thing you put to the gods is “can you make everyone’s dreams come true?” Implied here is that nobodies consent is ever violated as well.
That’s the North Star of gods.
Watch how many cower!
Good (topical) question. =D>
If gods existed, then they would be committing sin… by their own definition, in letting pain and suffering abound all around them without coming to the immediate aid of the suffering masses. Or is it one rule for them, another for us?
Or lol, why did they create corona virus, or any virus, in the first place.
Oh right, we sinned probably.
But then, why did the gods make us to be capable of sin…?
Oh right, that would violate free-will.
But hang on. Gods don’t have to obey paltry human logic. So they could have engineered a universe where humanity has free-will, and yet still cannot sin. Because mysteriousness.
Those gods yeah. Tch. What a bunch of bastards.
That’s a good question !!
The thing about gods is that most of them are quite impotent, the only power they REALLY have is destruction… the easiest thing to do in all of existence.
They demonstrate their “power” through torment and destruction. The ONE GOD doesn’t exist yet. The truly powerful god.
I know gods and goddesses exist now. They dictate their plans to our spirits, it’s a demented case of control that makes them this way (planning all of our lives at their discretion)
Everyone, ultimately wants to learn and be on their own terms… a god giving us that is the TRUE demonstration of power… the rest is garbage.
Nah they couldn’t do it. It’s logically impossible. A god’s omniscience would prevent it from happening.
If a God knows that in five minutes you’re gonna go to the refrigerator, one of two things logically follow.
a) you’re not free to not go to the refrigerator in five minutes.
b) you are free to not go to the refrigerator in five minutes, and God was wrong about what he thought would happen.
if b, we ain’t talking about a god here, because gods are omniscient and aren’t able to be wrong.
Great. Tell the WHO and CDC … and Trump and Congress … and the Stock Market. Don’t waste your time on China. They don’t believe in gods.
Turns out they might not help me either. I’m an atheist of most gods. As far as I know you haven’t named all these gods you’ve met. So I don’t know if I’m an atheist of them or not.
Of course I don’t know firsthand experientially, but I understand that heaven has freewill, and sin ain’t a problem there.
But then, according to tradition, there’s the fallen brother of Jesus and his band of fallen angels.
So the evidence so far is, God is unable to create anything of perfection, and without sin.
And so we’re inflicted with the sin of viruses. Proving, that even God himself is not without sin. I guess, like father like son … made in his image … a sinful image.
Paltry human. God laughs at your logickmancery. God creates a weight so heavy He Himself cannot lift it. Then He lifts it, hallelujah !
Or ofc. he’s just Xarblgarp the very powerful alien. I dunno. [size=40]hallelujah…?[/size]
Jung’s proposition that the gods are archetypes of the collective unconsciousness as evidenced by world mythology, dreams and other spontaneous imagery makes sense to me.
Yes!
Felix, I know that I am not the most intelligent being in the world by far but I think that you have insulted what intelligence I do have here. lol
Are you telling me that you thought that I believed this was “real”? Even when I believed in God, I knew this was myth, kind of like a fairy tale actually. We just cannot “swallow” everything that is told to us.
Perhaps the writers of the bible put that down to keep us lowly human beings in tow hoping that we would think that if we went in search of knowledge, we would evolve and rebel and the powers that be would not have much control of us. They wanted us to think that we just might burn in hell. lol
I’m sorry you felt insulted by my words. I was merely analyzing the garden of Eden story structurally instead of looking at the characters as if they were historical persons. The writers of the Hebrew Bible didn’t have the Christian view that people would burn in hell for eternity. That interpretation was superimposed on the story later by Christian theologians.
child in time,
Why do you say this?
That statement kind of points to God as a puppeteer in my opinion. If it was inevitable that they ate from the tree, it seems to me that they had no free will in the first place.
Well, perhaps in a sense, they did have free choice and made it. What responsibility belongs to God since this entity had knowledge of what they would do? You might think that a discussion between the three of them would have been fair before their God kicked them out of paradise.
Again I am interested in knowing why eating from the tree was inevitable? Basic curiosity of us humans? The inevitability of the Word having to come to pass?
Felix,
No need to apologize as I was not the least bit insulted. I kind of thought that it was funny and I was surprised.
This I did not know though. So where did they have them going after death?
I’ll jump in again to simply state that the human narrative on earth is excrement… it’s shit.
Our task is to obliterate that. Not by eating the shit and getting used to it (which many people on earth will brag about)
But to get rid of the shit entirely.
Then we can laugh at all these people who think they’re more badass than everyone because they acclimated themselves to eating shit!
“Dude, you ate shit! You didn’t have to! LOL! How stupid do you feel now!”
I’ve seen many posters on this board brag about eating shit.
A place called Sheol which was much like the Greek Hades
OK. Glad you didn’t feel insulted.