This was just the vaguest bit of crap ever. After a fairly complicated quoted paragraph, you refer to ‘this’ which is God knows what, using a term with ‘intellectual’ as if that is somehow clearly distinguishing it from other types of thinking or language and then adding ‘contraption’ a pejorative term in your schema (and in other people’s). It’s a trap. Ask me a vague implicitly critical question with no clear referent. It’s just fucked up communication and a lack of responsibility taking, as per usual. Your selective use of this ‘accusation’ and the concept’s incoherence…I am sure they escape you.
Bullshit. I do not need to be some kind of omniscient to deal with, including confront, objectivists. That’s nuts. I gotta fucking lie in my bed until I ‘grasp an ontological understanding of existence itself.’???
Prove that bit of idiocy. There’s your objectivism. Put directly and idiotically.
Stop right here. Stop whining for answers and look at your own answer.
Your version of
WE must X before we can live.
BEcause let me tell you, I have to deal with objectivists all the time. Government agencies, workplaces, companies, people in these places and without. You may be a bit on the hibernated side, but still, you must also. Unless I moved into the wood and live off land no one gives a shit about, I have to…I have to confront and deal with objectivists and others…to live.
There is your anti-life position that you breach most days including when you post here. You fucking shoot objectivist fish in a barrel.
I am alive, with incomplete knowledge and I would not say I grasp the ontological, etc. of existence, etc. But for you if I engage in life, there is something wrong with me. My contraptions and comforts. Now, yes, on occasion you will present a kind of wishing you could, but in general you actually think that we are supposed to demonstrate to all rational people - see my post above to Phyllo about that category - or we cannot deal with and confront objectivists. Well, no. I don’t give up and wait for this epipheny. And obviously neither do you.
You want perfection and complete knowledge before life and you resent anyone who decides to do the best they can to pursue their goals and preferences - those who couch them in moral terms and those who do not - and who do not collapse into being fractured and fragmented because they do not grasp…etc. It is an anti-life position which you think
bears
no
onus.
We do. It bears and onus.
The first sad thing is what you’ve done to yourself with this idea. The truly horrible thing is you try to propagate it.
This is all after one inch of your post.
You think putting forward a philosophical position as an objectivist means say X is true and I know it.
That’s a philosophically naive idea of what happens in communication and what language does.
You have been putting forward an objectivist position in a mixture of implicit and occasionally stated, and utterly undemonstrated ideas for, what a decade? Via who you assume bears the onus in many situations. Via assumptions that are implicit in your posts. Via what you think you need not answer. The weird assumptions in your categories.
It all presents an ontology and a set of morals. Anyone who pushes back on it gets a couple of responses: they are afraid of your ideas and/or to criticize your posts is not demonstrating the way every rational person ought to live and if there is an afterlife and/or they aren’t suffering enough so they have a contraption that comforts them that you do not have. You being, implicitly, the brave solitary man who faces what seems like the truth of our not knowing. And a man who can drive away the cowards with the clarity of his thought and reduce otherwise intelligent people to…failures to be clever.
Untouchable. Iamb and his posts and assumptions are off limits for criticism.
Alright metaphorically anorexic person, I accept, Iamb, that you are not going to change how you think of your problem and it’s source and the only possible solution. You are always going to think if you lose just a bit more weight you will feel ok. It’s been a couple of years at least since I realized that I am talking to your addiction as the AA types say. You found the objectivism that you will carry to the grave, because it is utterly closed. Fine.
But its proliferation. That I will likely react negatively to still.
And the rude self-contradictory way it unfolds in interaction with other posters here.