Class Struggle

Unlike most people on this site, you’re a self-avowed racist. Unlike most people on this site, you’re a likeable guy.

Racism itself says nothing about the quality of a person. But why do you have to cover it up in pseudo-science? Why do you need to justify it? That’s what bothers me.

I don’t think it’s enough to simply get rid of fractional reserve banking, altho ideally we should start with that, the central bankers and the 1 10th of 1% have been looting us for far too long, over a century, they owe us trillions in reparations.

All great points.

When corruption has been mitigated, capitalism can do quite a bit of good.

New World Anti-Racism is double-speak.

Convenient when it suits you, but subjective and highly illogical. You can’t have it both ways. Family literally means familiar. And if you, and others, want to “mix it up”, then that will be the attitude of the results as well, mixed-up. How can a family stay ‘family’ when it becomes unfamiliar?

In the US, racial-ethnic “class” has been established between “WASP” and “non-white” or colored. Overclass, versus Underclass. Is it so simply why white does not intermix with black and vice-versa, as-if there was nothing more to it than “Racism”? As-if people don’t have legitimate attractions or repulsion?

Your arguments are commonplace. It doesn’t disprove my point.

European ethnic groups, countries, are so, for centuries upon centuries of warfare, in-marriage, and loyalty to one’s own kind. To pretend otherwise, is not persuasive. Jews, as your primary example? Do you want to be Jewish? I don’t. There are advantages and disadvantages to everything. Jews maybe ‘rich’, typically, but it comes with a price. As are the advantages and disadvantages of every other kind of people, clan, or tribe.

These are not necessarily bad.

The Standard-Of-Living in Western Civilization is still climbing exponentially.

1stly, Gypsies are also mixed race, so are Latinos.
2ndly, Jews have always been clever, even before they left Judea and became more miscegenous.
They wrote the bible, and while the bible is of course a work of fiction, it’s still clever.
3rdly, Jews are clever, but not that productive, Marxism, the Oedipus complex, fractional reserve banking, usury, Hollywood, porn and progressive education and media isn’t what I’d call productive.

To further Gloom’s point, Jews/Semites/Abrahamic ideology leads to Nihilism and Regressivism, not Progressivism.

Asceticism is the cure for Nihilism. Jews prey upon the Goy/Gentile/Host through various forms of parasitism.

If the relationship becomes too imbalanced, then bad things happen (Nazi-Germany, 20th Century Europe).

Culture and race are as real as body parts and geological features are.
There’s no (precise) border between cultures and races.
There’s no (precise) border between body parts like shoulders, arms and hands, or geological features like hills and valleys, deserts, forests and plains, doesn’t mean body parts and geological features aren’t wholly, mostly or in some important sense, separate, their own entities, doesn’t mean it’s not meaningful to give them names, think of and treat them differently.
Race is as real as dog breeds, more real in fact, in some cases human populations have been totally separate for dozens of thousands of years, according to scientific estimates, whereas some dog breeds have only been relatively separate for centuries or even just decades, but for ideological reasons, scientists don’t have a problem with dog breeds.

Science doesn’t operate in a political economic vacuum.
Science is big business and politics (as well as social mores).
If you look carefully enough, you can spot where big business and politics has contaminated science and separate the wheat from the chaff.
For example, you’ll hear them say our existing racial categories are rough, insufficiently rigorous and systematic for science.
So what?
Do what you do with any other field of inquiry, refine the categories.

Planets are social constructs, there is no (precise) border between where asteroids end and planetoids begin.
They had a vote on the definition of a planet and recategorized Pluto as a dwarf planet, because they discovered too many other planets in the Kuiper belt for their tastes (shit we can’t have dozens or hundreds of planets, right?), very scientific.
But that’s how science has to operate, it can’t separate itself from human cognition, customs and language (not at all and at least not fully respectively), which vary from person to person and people to people, which’s why we sometimes find scientists believing one thing in one country and the contrary in another.
Practically everything is in some senses a social construct, and really they know that, but they still won’t go any where near race.

Racial categories are sufficiently rigorous and systematic for forensic anthropologies to make use of, since they can tell a Negroid apart from a Caucasoid just by examining a single tooth, 98 times out of 100, which’s why law enforcement employs them.

Take any two native Irishmen and lo and behold, they’ll have significantly more in common with each other than a native Irishmen and a native Nigerian or a native Irishmen and a native Chinaman will have, who would’ve surmised?

While they’re a minority, scientists like Philippe Rushton and Richard Lynn have done good work on race science.

All that being said, I’m not just a racist because of my interpretations of science, but because of my interpretations of my experiences and how I feel.
Race is instinctual, intuitive, we’re born with a racial sense, a way of separating the (extended) self from otherness.
For example, some progressive mothers raised in progressive homes have mixed race babies and can’t identify with or care for them, because they don’t look, and presumably behave like them.
They feel terrible about it, but some of them can’t get over it.
Even progressive blacks seek black friends and neighborhoods to live in, and the same is true of progressive whites, Hispanics and Asians.
And much to their chagrin, scientists are starting to discover that diversity in fact leads to social breakdown and decay.

Racism isn’t (strictly) a social construct invented by white capitalists in the early modern period, many population groups from antiquity such as the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and Babylonians had all sorts of theories about race.
They believed Africans, Asians, Mediterraneans and Nordics had certain physical capabilities and psychological characteristics.

And there’s nothing, hateful about any of this.
Israelis want to go on being Israelis, Koreans want to be Koreans, Japanese want to be Japanese, not because of hate, but because of affinity.
White Americans and Canadians wanted to be white until 1965, when they opened the floodgates and let the 3rd world come pouring in.
And many of them still want to be white.
Many Europeans want to remain white, but their politicians had other plans.

Both culture and race, and class are important, not arbitrary.
They matter, and you don’t have to focus on one to the exclusion of the other.

What represents (Economic) class?

It’s willpower, translated into the form of “Upward Mobility”. Females are most attracted to males who are “moving up in the world”, meaning, going from poor to middle, or middle to upper, or upper to wealthy. Most males don’t necessarily want to move upward. Because “the system” is rigged against males. Males systemically suppressed and pushed down. This is the nature of human competition. People compete for jobs. People work for money. To raise yourself, is to struggle. Thus there are two main ingredients to “Class Struggle”. Willpower and Cunning (intelligence). It’s a matter of Motivation, Risk Taking, Luck, and Skill. The males who are highly motivated and diligent, will generally move up over time. The demand is always highest throughout business for hard-working and loyal employees. This is why I refuse to believe in generalizations.

Most poor are so, because they are unwilling to work, and unwilling to move upward. It is a lack of motivation. You can “blame education”. You can blame almost anything. Most of the poor come from broken homes, broken families, and do not have structures in place, to motivate them. They are told from age, they are stupid, worthless, “will never amount to anything”, and they eventually culled into it. They believe it. They feel rejected by society. And they are. People reaffirm this everyday. You can’t, magically, make them care, or even really care for them.

The Middle Class would rather take in whipped dogs, off the street, than take a homeless person into their home. Why? Because homeless are less valued than stray dogs and cats.

Put that in your head, and let it sink in, before confronting the issue about “Class Struggle”.

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watch this one Gloom

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I’m amazed by all the antisemitism here, really. Jews aren’t productive. They’ve won 20% of the Nobel Prizes, they have a pretty strong history of inventing: lazers, stainless steel, the flash drive, drip irrigation, the flashlight, ball point pens, and jeez a hellava lot more, whatever we think of vaccinations in general and as produced today, I’m glad polio and some other diseases are gone…They are well represented in medical positions. They created Christianity for that matter, also. I mean, shit, my sense of them, having grown up in a complex neighborhood was they tended to work their asses off academically, perhaps less than the Asian students, and then go into many productive fields. Hell, it’s part of the complaint about them. That their culture pressures them to succeed, at least in the US.

Progressive education comes out of Locke and Rousseau, Christian Germans like Johann Bernhard Basedow, and the strongest formulater in the US and affecting also Canada would be John Dewey, I don’t think these are Jews. If we are going to blame jews for Marxism, yes, I know Marx was Jewish, we then have a hard time blaming jews for porn. Jews certainly didn’t invent porn, though they were overrepresented in the industry, now it’s a free for all. And while Marx came up with Marxist theory with a nice Protestant boy, Engels, sure, but the biggest supporters of communism have been Russia and China, and while Jews had a role in the former they then faced more and more antisemitism by what is supposedly their production, communism. fractional reserve banking came out of Dutch Goldsmiths, perhaps Jewish goldsmiths were a majority. I dunno, but it was part of a system of relations that were accepted broadly by gentiles.

They are a people with a specific history and culture which lead them, in their diapora into certain fields and not others, also for reasons not just to do with their culture but due to the treatment of others and restrictions put on them. To call them not productive seems to me just silly.

Some Jews are very creative.
Some Jews are very destructive.
I’m just presenting the other side here, Pedro was coming off like a Jewish supremacist.

For whom?
Not for the middle and working classes.
Really there is no middleclass anymore, it’s dead, but at least we’ve got some flashy phones and tablets to help placate us.

Well, perhaps progressivism isn’t all bad.
We’re dealing with 3 primary ideologies here, matriarchal socialism (equality, hedonism), libertarianism (liberty, of course) and patriarchal socialism (equity, asceticism), sort of like how there’re 3 primary colors, red, green and blue, and then there’re different hues and mixes.
Each one can become corrupt and imbalanced.
We’ve had globalism and (crony) capitalism (and compromise) since the 60s and the 80s respectively.
They had a good run, but became very corrupt.
I think it’s time for more nationalism and socialism (and conflict), the right emphasizes the former and the left the latter, but overall we’re going to see more of both.
North America is going to be most resistant to these changes, because it’s always been the bedrock of globalism and capitalism, whereas landlocked Hungary is pioneering them.

These things wax and wane.
History never repeats, but it rhymes.
I think we’re going to see a rhyme of the early-mid 20th century in the mid 21st.
We had Pax Americana after WW2 for nearly a century just as we had Pax Britannia for a century after the Napoleonic wars, but we’re headed for socioeconomic, political and perhaps even military upheaval, and we’ll just have to wait and see who, if anyone, emerges victorious, maybe no one and nothing will.
Really the Anglo-American world has been dominating for a few centuries, but there’s continental Europe, Russia, China, its reign isn’t going to last forever.

Jews can prosper under red, green or some combination thereof, but they can’t prosper under blue, especially a deep, dark blue, which’s why they always resent and resist it.
Many Jews are red or green on the outside, but blue on the inside, or blue for themselves, red and green for everyone else.

Yea, but if we didn’t have such a shitty, neofeudalist economy, more poor people would be able and willing to rise above their poverty.

A lot of these middleclass people wound up poor during the financial crisis, so a bit of karma there.

That’s only because homeless people will purposely pee and poo in places you won’t know about… like behind the couch or end table. Dogs and cats on the other hand will pee and poo anywhere, and you’re more likely to find it.

Ah yes, the ol’ steal the White Man’s inventions, discoveries, and science routine.

When Jews aren’t stealing European/Whites’ money, they’re after our intellectual properties and achievements too.

Interesting video.
In 2016 you had run-of-the-mill neolibcon neofeudalists like Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, libertarians like Rand Paul, some Christian fundamentalists on the fringes, some white nationalists on the margins, and then you had protectionists like Donald Trump.
In 2016 you had social democrat Bernie nearly overtake neofeudalist Shillary.

Protectionism is a form of national socialism.
Both the left and right are moving away from (crony) capitalism to socialism, but the left has the cajones to admit it, the right does not.
The left claims it’ll go after the corporations directly, increasing taxes on the richest 1% and spending on the poorest 99%, whereas the right claims it’ll go after them indirectly, after the blue collar (il)legal immigrants and refugees they hire and outsourcing.

Both the left and right are at least talking about putting an end to regime change wars for Israel, the oil and opium barons.
Both the left and the right are moving more to socialism, but the right won’t admit it yet.
But the right is moving to national, paternalistic socialism, the left global, maternalistic.

I think the fundamental point was that the 2008 financial crash, then held the US and world economy hostage, bailed out by Obama and the Feds, bailed out by the US public, the bill fronted to the US taxpayer, has caused a deep resentment between Populace and Elitists. Thus led the charge for an Anti-Establishment candidate. Trump filled the slot, but as outlined, the US voter would have chosen anybody who called themself ‘populist’ and hit the correct talking-points.

Meanwhile, the Establishment is stronger than ever. Trump didn’t hit the Wallstreet financers or banksters. Trump reversed, and pushed the US embassy in Israel.

He talks about Nationalism on one hand, but then pushes Internationalist agendas on the other. Now, the average voter has no clue what’s going on. The DNC has no leadership nor platform. While the Republicans are simply riding the ‘Trump’ train, with no clue nor idea where it will end.

People are sick of globalism, and capitalism, not only crony capitalism but the utopian capitalism Rand Paul proposes, otherwise he would’ve been elected instead of DJT.
We’ve had the best, and worst of globalism and capitalism since Johnson in the 60s and Reagan in the 80s respectively.
People want nationalism, and socialism, the right emphasizes the former, the left the latter.
People want populism, they’re sick of the elite on the one hand, and diversity on the other.

Right, Trump is pretty full of it, I’ve been saying that for years.
Hopefully more radical candidates will emerge, and be elected.

Now bureaucrats and socialism can be corrupt too, not just corporations and capitalism, but these things are cyclical, they usually start out good, or alright, and then get bad over time, so the pendulum always sways back and forth.