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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:39 pm

This is from one of σάτυρος's claque on the KT Desperate Degenerate thread:

Kvasir wrote:A weak mind will build illusions for a reason. They offer a palatable coping mechanism for future stability of dissappointment or self-betrayal. Illusions offer mortar in the foundation of their identity; where if the integrity of that foundation is compromised or subjected to certain elemental abrasions, they will still have what is left to keep it erect and standing despite severe damage; it will still be viable to give them comfort. But What they lose, consciously or unconsciously in the event of this invariable conflict, is an irretreviable part of themselves, which is what the illusions are based on: self-illusion. To fit the world into thier construction, and when it doesn't fit, that construction's foundation is undermined, but it doesn't crumble, because the illusions simply morph into delusions, making its weakness mutated.


I bring it to your attention only in order to emphasize once again that this is what passes for "serious philosophy" at KT. And, for some, here.

Still, if someone among us is willing to make the attempt to translate it into the language we use in the real world, I would be interested in exploring that.

In other words, given a particular set of circumstances, what might be an example of a "weak mind" wanting to "build illusions for a reason"? Either in regard to a personal experience or pertaining to a context ripped from the headlines.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:46 pm

And you can go objectifying the search for wisdom.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:53 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:And you can go objectifying the search for wisdom.


That's you in the avatar, isn't it? If not, it's exactly what it should be. :wink:
Objectivists: Like shooting fish in a barrel!

He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:00 am

Huh?!
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:29 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Huh?!


Indeed. And that's exactly how I would expect him to respond. :wink:
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He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:57 am

Lol what?!
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:57 am

Oops, wrong thread.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:47 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Oops, wrong thread.


Finally, something with substance!
Objectivists: Like shooting fish in a barrel!

He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby promethean75 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Not necessarily. Or, sure, maybe he might be able to demonstrate for practical purposes why all rational men and women ought to think this is the wrong thread.

Unless, of course, I'm wrong.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:36 pm

promethean75 wrote:Not necessarily. Or, sure, maybe he might be able to demonstrate for practical purposes why all rational men and women ought to think this is the wrong thread.

Unless, of course, I'm wrong.


Let's ask him.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:05 pm

Nice one, iam !

You must be a summer camp councelor or something.

Truly inspiring. For the youf.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:41 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Nice one, iam !

You must be a summer camp councelor or something.

Truly inspiring. For the youf.


Well, paraphrasing myself...

Kids: like shooting fish in a tin can. :D
Objectivists: Like shooting fish in a barrel!

He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:58 pm

As long as you stop goggling at my avatar there iam...
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:00 pm

iambiguous wrote:Kids: like shooting fish in a tin can. :D


I think this betrays more of you than you think.

There's certainly something creepy there...
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:21 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Kids: like shooting fish in a tin can. :D


I think this betrays more of you than you think.

There's certainly something creepy there...


Well, after all, I am a desperate degenerate.
Objectivists: Like shooting fish in a barrel!

He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:46 pm

No... That's not the vibe at all...

BuuHhhuhhuhhhuh...
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:50 pm

Creepy old bastard.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:51 pm

THAT'SADELICIOUSTHING-TO-WRITEPEDROOO
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby promethean75 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:36 am

the only time biggs messed with minors was when they loved him long time while he was touring in nam.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:42 am

Lol look who's fucking all pro-America now!

That's alright though I respect that.
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