It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNJUST

Except the quid quod pro to that Trump’s own choices for top positions testified to as indisputable, based on conversations in a loop that everyone, including Trump belonged to.

In addition, the argument that a tit for tat corrupt act by Trust is retributive act for the alleged one, is no excuse.

So its either one is wrong, both are right, or none are right, both are wrong or right.

The alleged acts, are not constitutionally supported, at any rate, and the idea of foreign political influence to effect national politics is exactly what the revolutionary war was about. To escape monarchical despotic-dictatorial control was the reason for it.

If, political process is viewed as lacking a transcendental constitution between common historical precedent and present lack of it, then why use the Constitution at all, except open to current interpretation?

No… absolutely wrong.

Foreign influence is under the condition that US Autonomy is at risk. And now, it’s not, at all. USA is more autonomous than ever before. So even if Trump did bribe a foreign government to investigate a political rival, and it was “as corrupt as possible”, then it would still be arguable about whether it merits Impeachment, because Bribery and “High Crime” as mentioned to be impeachable, would need to be severe.

The Executive branch has authority to exercise foreign policy and diplomacy, almost however he wants to. The “Bribery” inferred by precedent, does not refer to “foreign influence”, which is basically meaningless as used as charged by the DNC. There’s no such thing as “foreign influence”, regarding general US elections, as-if US Citizens were incapable for voting for who they like.

This whole process is an insult to US Democracy.

And your “evidence” is a bunch of Hearsay witnesses, stacked by the DNC, without witness allowed to the President. Completely corrupt!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8wJc7vHcTs[/youtube]

As proved through this video, Trump’s motives have remained consistent for 30 years.

DNC literally have nothing against him.

Re-upping since you didn’t answer my questions.

Let’s say Trump asked North Korea to ‘investigate’ and ‘arrest’ Biden, or whoever wins the Democratic primary? You really think that wouldn’t be 1) election interference, and 2) impeachable?

Would kidnapping a Presidential nominee by a foreign country be interference, what the hell are you talking about?

Investigating for corruption does not mean arrest. It means divulging information. If it leads to arrest within the US then that’s fine.

Biden is the one who should be investigated, for gifting his son a million-dollar no-show job, publicly admitting the Quid Pro Quo, and then trying to impeach Trump, for his own wrongdoing. Only literally insane people, the DNC, the liberal-left, could cook up such a scheme. Corruption runs deep.

How degenerate has the US become where Trump is literally being charged for the crimes which Biden has committed? Without evidence, no fact-witnesses, and trying to nullify the vote of all those in the 2016 Election?

Democrats are destroying Democracy, which amounts to treason.

Nepotism is not anywhere near the scale of this actual treason investigation (whether it’s true or not).

I don’t see why you compare the two.

I agree. The corruption has two sides, one is the external collusion charge, which have been connected. by intelligence agencies, as politically retroactive and mutually inclusive. The question asked , about which preceded which , or which is more culpable is not relevant here , because :

The constitutional power of checks and balances favoring the executive is a more prominent internal issue.

It appears , that the Ukraine/Russia issue has been projected as even a good thing for the national and constitutional transgressions. It even can be surmised, that the former issue was constructed to mask the larger national one. That is the primary collusion, politically motivated and may have been carefully crafted.

These people , sitting around with not much to do nowedays then to argue partisanship, being paid well and insecure about what’s coming up, rather then passing anything, are really pretty corrupt well above the grassroots level. Who indeed, understands them anyway? The American People?

It simply is not as it appears. Period.

Think about it from this perspective:

Treason is punishable by death in the US.

This is what trump is being investigated for.

You don’t think trump and cronies would do anything in their power to avoid being convicted if they actually did it?

I think truth.org has already found that trump has lied over 30,000 times while in office.

I mean, c’mon folks! Really?

Great, so it looks like there’s a form of electoral interference that doesn’t involve fraudulent voting or falsifying vote counts.

So now, suppose a country has no legitimate grounds for investigation, but they know that even the threat of arrest will significantly impact the outcome of the election. So, suppose France hates Trump, they want him to lose, so they accuse him of being a pedophile and start an investigation into everything he’s ever done in France, and make a big old stink of it so it stays in the international news. Electoral interference?

This isn’t true. Trump isn’t being charged with treason, he’s not even being charged criminally. Some people have suggested various criminal charges, but I think that’s unlikely. Even if he were removed, his successor would likely pardon him for Federal offenses, and the drive at the state level to prosecute would fade quickly after he’s out of office.

Call me stupid, but eliciting a foreign government to effect and succeed at effecting US elections is textbook treason.

Sounds like those folks in DC are waffling quite a bit with respect to what you posted.

How many times do I need to reword and reassert the case???

“Interference” in US election means the following:

  1. Forcing a person who votes, to stay home, against his/her will.
  2. Forcing a person who votes, to choose one candidate under duress (gunpoint, threat of violence).
  3. Not counting the votes of the people.
  4. Counting votes wrongly.
  5. Illegal immigrants or non-citizens being counted as votes.

Etc.

The “foreign interference” literally doesn’t mean anything. It’s McCarthyism. It’s a scapegoat, used by the DNC and liberal-left, to excuse their own losses and failures in the 2016 election. It is being as a scapegoat today. It will be used tomorrow, until the corrupt Fake News Media is destroyed or charged with crimes, which they should be. Furthermore, Democratic crimes are corrupt.

Biden giving his son a no-show job in Ukraine, is Nepotism. So again, Dems are guilty of what they accuse Trump. Trump doesn’t gift his children money at taxpayer expense. He doesn’t need to. He gained his wealth on his own, outside political corruption. Politicians gain their money through lies, extortion, bribery, and corruption. Trump is not a Politician.

So accusing him of such, makes the Democrats look ridiculously stupid and out of touch with reality.

Trump is a successful businessman. He doesn’t need money. He has admitted, and it’s true, that he’s lost money running for and being POTUS. He is anti-corruption. Gulliani is anti-corruption, which is why Democrats and career-politicians, Deep State operatives, are nervous. Because they don’t like The Don “firing” all those who thought they could never be fired. Trump needs to fire more government officials. The “rebellion” has started, because Trump is a threat to the Deep State (career operatives who traditionally have had immunity from being fired or oversight from the Executive branch).

The corruption is finally being checked, and this is why the Democrats are lashing-out, to protect and hide their previous corruptions.

Trump gained his money on his own?!

What world do you live in?

He inherited 300 million dollars, which if you calculate for inflation what trump claims to be worth, he hasn’t even kept up with inflation. Meaning: he lost some of daddy’s mob/real estate money.

Psycho linguistic brainwashing techniques have come a LONG way since the constitution was drafted. Surely you agree with this. We have current threats the founders couldn’t have dreamed of.

If you want to understand fascist regimes and douchbags with really low self esteem…

Look at this bullshit!!! A crowd behind you in a speech???!!! Really???!!

images.app.goo.gl/G7ZYeVZ14gU24GSK8

I live in a world of Consent Violation.

Too bad you can’t figure it out?

You folks really don’t read my posts. Somehow you think replies like this are clever rejoinders.

I have repeatedly stated that in negative zero sum worlds, that EVERYONE’S consent is being violated NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO!!!

This however! Should not embolden people to be abusive in extremely clear ways, just because it’s true for all of us!

When it comes to debate, meta discussions are given priority over subset discussions.

what would be a greater christmas present to the country than trump’s impeachment. seriously, the timing is perfect, iddin’t it?

c’mon, sing it with me ILP…

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IokiF-r72Vo]all i want for christmas is the trump impeached
the trump impeached
see the trump impeached
gee if i could only see the trump impeached
we’d put that fucker out of business

it’d be so great if we could say
his administration ended with a fizzle
gosh oh gee how happy are we
'cause some guy blew the whistle![/url]

Oops, you forgot
6. Arresting a candidate.

And we’re talking about
7. Starting a salacious and unjustified criminal investigation into a candidate.

Now look, all you trumpsters need to relax, mmkay? He’s not gonna be removed from office so chill. Even as we speak he’s paying off all the senators, so everything’s gonna be fine.

MAGA

…maybe that was their objective/goal? never underestimate others and what they will do to achieve their goal/what they feel they are owed… monetarily, or other, wise.

They’ve been doing it with Brexit, after-all… by having prolonged Brexit so that they can pocket as much cash as they can, before we officially leave.

You must be talking about the Russian collaboration hoax. Or did you mean the newer Ukraine Quid Quo Pro hoax?

Both now proven to be initiated by Hillary, the DNC, CIA, and FBI - American “Deep State”, global socialists.

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