It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNJUST

Qualified compared to whom? Hillary? Bush? Obama? Biden?

Trump has arguably done more for the USA than any President has done for the past 30 or 40 years.

He has also pushed hard to secure our borders, which the corrupt Establishment has refused to do for who-knows-how-long.

Based on this, you should be against your own Democratic impeachment (coup) attempt.

It’s sloppy. It’s open to interpretation (so-called “abuse of power”). There are no High Crimes and Misdemeanors. There is no weight behind it, at all. An “impeachment” based on nothing, is going to damage Democrats, DNC, the liberal-left, for decades to come, hopefully.

Democrats who follow-through and vote for this sham, are a severe embarrassment and corruption to our Constitution, our Republic, our Nation.

Do you mean to say that there’s no such thing as foreign interference in our elections? Like that’s just not a coherent concept?

Are you implying that Russians or Illegal Immigrants are adding their ‘votes’ to our election?

Are you implying that votes aren’t being counted?

What “interference” are you talking about, exactly?

If you’re talking about foreign money being used or against US politicians, that is a non-issue. It is not a threat to US Democracy. Rather, it’s a straw-man proposed by Democrats and the Liberal-Left as a way to Scapegoat their losses in the 2016 election.

Anything else?

I was talking in the abstract to get an idea of what you thought was legitimate grounds for impeachment.

But, in the actual case, the foreign interference being solicited would be a criminal investigation of a political rival. Would a foreign government arresting a candidate be election interference? Does motive matter? Does it matter what country we’re talking about?

I know you’re talking abstractly because all you have are abstractions.

There is no “Interference” in the 2016 election. There is no “Interference” in the 2020 election. Except, your Coup attempt, which is illegal, unmerited, not to mention UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNJUST. That’s the only “interference” I see. It is an attempt to invalidate, nullify, and void the Vote, Voice, and Will of the majority the American people. Essentially it is an attempt to destroy the First Amendment. You, and the DNC, want to ‘silence’ and destroy the Will of all those who voted for Trump. The degree of this corruption goes all the way to the heart and core of Western Civilization.

The Democrats are trying to destroy the votes of the Majority (Electoral College) of this country, right now.

Russia? Ukraine? Nothing. They aren’t voting. They are convincing US voters. They aren’t counted. There is no “foreign interference”. To claim this, is to presume some magical Voodoo of a foreign country, as-if they were (magically) controlling US voters and politicians. This is your presumption.

Worst case, if Trump wanted to Ukraine to investigate a political rival, it’s not an impeachable offense.

It’s not a High Crime and Misdemeanor.

You might have a case, if there was actual evidence. Meaning, Trump uses taxpayer money, explicitly bribes the Ukrainian president, the bribe transfers, and the investigation goes through. None of this happened. And even if it did, and Ukraine did investigate Biden, then it’s still not necessarily a crime, in the sense that Biden may actually be corrupt. And if this is the case, then Trump is more than warranted to ask Ukraine of such. It’s dubious under the stipulation of a bribe. But this doesn’t matter, because there as no bribe in the first place.

So, your entire position is invalid. And that of the “Democrats”, who are actually, against Democracy.

Except the quid quod pro to that Trump’s own choices for top positions testified to as indisputable, based on conversations in a loop that everyone, including Trump belonged to.

In addition, the argument that a tit for tat corrupt act by Trust is retributive act for the alleged one, is no excuse.

So its either one is wrong, both are right, or none are right, both are wrong or right.

The alleged acts, are not constitutionally supported, at any rate, and the idea of foreign political influence to effect national politics is exactly what the revolutionary war was about. To escape monarchical despotic-dictatorial control was the reason for it.

If, political process is viewed as lacking a transcendental constitution between common historical precedent and present lack of it, then why use the Constitution at all, except open to current interpretation?

No… absolutely wrong.

Foreign influence is under the condition that US Autonomy is at risk. And now, it’s not, at all. USA is more autonomous than ever before. So even if Trump did bribe a foreign government to investigate a political rival, and it was “as corrupt as possible”, then it would still be arguable about whether it merits Impeachment, because Bribery and “High Crime” as mentioned to be impeachable, would need to be severe.

The Executive branch has authority to exercise foreign policy and diplomacy, almost however he wants to. The “Bribery” inferred by precedent, does not refer to “foreign influence”, which is basically meaningless as used as charged by the DNC. There’s no such thing as “foreign influence”, regarding general US elections, as-if US Citizens were incapable for voting for who they like.

This whole process is an insult to US Democracy.

And your “evidence” is a bunch of Hearsay witnesses, stacked by the DNC, without witness allowed to the President. Completely corrupt!

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As proved through this video, Trump’s motives have remained consistent for 30 years.

DNC literally have nothing against him.

Re-upping since you didn’t answer my questions.

Let’s say Trump asked North Korea to ‘investigate’ and ‘arrest’ Biden, or whoever wins the Democratic primary? You really think that wouldn’t be 1) election interference, and 2) impeachable?

Would kidnapping a Presidential nominee by a foreign country be interference, what the hell are you talking about?

Investigating for corruption does not mean arrest. It means divulging information. If it leads to arrest within the US then that’s fine.

Biden is the one who should be investigated, for gifting his son a million-dollar no-show job, publicly admitting the Quid Pro Quo, and then trying to impeach Trump, for his own wrongdoing. Only literally insane people, the DNC, the liberal-left, could cook up such a scheme. Corruption runs deep.

How degenerate has the US become where Trump is literally being charged for the crimes which Biden has committed? Without evidence, no fact-witnesses, and trying to nullify the vote of all those in the 2016 Election?

Democrats are destroying Democracy, which amounts to treason.

Nepotism is not anywhere near the scale of this actual treason investigation (whether it’s true or not).

I don’t see why you compare the two.

I agree. The corruption has two sides, one is the external collusion charge, which have been connected. by intelligence agencies, as politically retroactive and mutually inclusive. The question asked , about which preceded which , or which is more culpable is not relevant here , because :

The constitutional power of checks and balances favoring the executive is a more prominent internal issue.

It appears , that the Ukraine/Russia issue has been projected as even a good thing for the national and constitutional transgressions. It even can be surmised, that the former issue was constructed to mask the larger national one. That is the primary collusion, politically motivated and may have been carefully crafted.

These people , sitting around with not much to do nowedays then to argue partisanship, being paid well and insecure about what’s coming up, rather then passing anything, are really pretty corrupt well above the grassroots level. Who indeed, understands them anyway? The American People?

It simply is not as it appears. Period.

Think about it from this perspective:

Treason is punishable by death in the US.

This is what trump is being investigated for.

You don’t think trump and cronies would do anything in their power to avoid being convicted if they actually did it?

I think truth.org has already found that trump has lied over 30,000 times while in office.

I mean, c’mon folks! Really?

Great, so it looks like there’s a form of electoral interference that doesn’t involve fraudulent voting or falsifying vote counts.

So now, suppose a country has no legitimate grounds for investigation, but they know that even the threat of arrest will significantly impact the outcome of the election. So, suppose France hates Trump, they want him to lose, so they accuse him of being a pedophile and start an investigation into everything he’s ever done in France, and make a big old stink of it so it stays in the international news. Electoral interference?

This isn’t true. Trump isn’t being charged with treason, he’s not even being charged criminally. Some people have suggested various criminal charges, but I think that’s unlikely. Even if he were removed, his successor would likely pardon him for Federal offenses, and the drive at the state level to prosecute would fade quickly after he’s out of office.

Call me stupid, but eliciting a foreign government to effect and succeed at effecting US elections is textbook treason.

Sounds like those folks in DC are waffling quite a bit with respect to what you posted.

How many times do I need to reword and reassert the case???

“Interference” in US election means the following:

  1. Forcing a person who votes, to stay home, against his/her will.
  2. Forcing a person who votes, to choose one candidate under duress (gunpoint, threat of violence).
  3. Not counting the votes of the people.
  4. Counting votes wrongly.
  5. Illegal immigrants or non-citizens being counted as votes.

Etc.

The “foreign interference” literally doesn’t mean anything. It’s McCarthyism. It’s a scapegoat, used by the DNC and liberal-left, to excuse their own losses and failures in the 2016 election. It is being as a scapegoat today. It will be used tomorrow, until the corrupt Fake News Media is destroyed or charged with crimes, which they should be. Furthermore, Democratic crimes are corrupt.

Biden giving his son a no-show job in Ukraine, is Nepotism. So again, Dems are guilty of what they accuse Trump. Trump doesn’t gift his children money at taxpayer expense. He doesn’t need to. He gained his wealth on his own, outside political corruption. Politicians gain their money through lies, extortion, bribery, and corruption. Trump is not a Politician.

So accusing him of such, makes the Democrats look ridiculously stupid and out of touch with reality.

Trump is a successful businessman. He doesn’t need money. He has admitted, and it’s true, that he’s lost money running for and being POTUS. He is anti-corruption. Gulliani is anti-corruption, which is why Democrats and career-politicians, Deep State operatives, are nervous. Because they don’t like The Don “firing” all those who thought they could never be fired. Trump needs to fire more government officials. The “rebellion” has started, because Trump is a threat to the Deep State (career operatives who traditionally have had immunity from being fired or oversight from the Executive branch).

The corruption is finally being checked, and this is why the Democrats are lashing-out, to protect and hide their previous corruptions.

Trump gained his money on his own?!

What world do you live in?

He inherited 300 million dollars, which if you calculate for inflation what trump claims to be worth, he hasn’t even kept up with inflation. Meaning: he lost some of daddy’s mob/real estate money.

Psycho linguistic brainwashing techniques have come a LONG way since the constitution was drafted. Surely you agree with this. We have current threats the founders couldn’t have dreamed of.

If you want to understand fascist regimes and douchbags with really low self esteem…

Look at this bullshit!!! A crowd behind you in a speech???!!! Really???!!

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