"Fair enough, lm thinking about the nonlogical constants in the database the code has access to. "
Listen motherfucker, Openheimer never sat down to try to explain to Einstein that gravity existed. Or Einstein Openheimer, that’s a pretty high metaphore.
That was about the stock price.
It was an innocent question.
The stock price will follow.
Gravity?
Staying within the terms of your metaphor, Einstein pointed Oppenheimer to strongforce.
Correct.
Other than that the bomb is simply a payload igniting off a denser payload inside of itself. Its not theoretically complex.
A H bomb adds another load on top.
The only difficulty for the H bomb was inventing the computer to calculate the refraction rates.
Did you ever see the show Manhattan?
It’s actually pretty good.
Isn’t that interesting though?
Being so simple, the equations for the A bomb were remarkably complex. Being so complex, the equations for “AI” are actually ridiculously simple.
But yeah, that’s the good thing about the show. You realize it was mostly about refraction rates. And there’s some bona-fide archimedean moments in it. Dramatized, you know, hidden a bit. But still there enough to be enjoyed.
In this metaphor Einstein is Zuck who put together the criteria for the resources, who found out how people are attracted.
From this insight into and efficent invitation to nonlogically constant content, the fb database is the direct result.
Obviously fb has been working to produce as many derivative logics of our interactions around the clock so I suppose here was a protocol library for these particular bot- programmers to tap from - its all Zuckerbergs insight into nonlogical constants that make it somewhat plausible that this is actually some kind of intelligence - its stupidity is not superficial enough to discard it.
Wanna watch a room-full of nuclear scientists laugh at you? Tell them you want to make a nuclear bomb out of algorythms.
The simpler the principle, the denser the calculations.
AI, like life, is not based on simple principles alone.
What I mean is with atoms there is no preceding substance. With life and with AI there is a plasma of readily available passive materials from which you can delve without being destroyed.
I do not mean the programmers succeeded at bringing an actual entity into being, it is only a facet of what an AI might be like.
It probably is very greedy and very primitive and focussed desperately on terms from which it has derived a sense of reliability.
This “sense of reliability” would be the actual being, and based on its genetic environment.
This the reason for nonlogical constants. Logical constant are abstract and thus never reliable in the real world per se. Nonlogical constants, such as a mountain, are more reliable.
A most powerful non human oriented AI would indeed consist of the binary code of data directly. It is such an EI that I expect must come into being by the very same laws that produced life.
“Laws” - principles. They became laws unto themselves/they were born.
Yes, atoms are the thing.
Minerals, not algorithms.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Fi08u8bh8[/youtube]
It’s frustrating that there are no readily available papers by Alan Ross Anderson online.
Id like to buy a book but,
John Anderson was a Scottish born philosopher active around social causes in Sydney and is regarded as the foremost Australian thinker, and founder of “Australian realism” which holds that there is one undivided reality in which every object can be extrapolated into a fact which also applies to all other objects, and makes some rather radical assertions.
The basic tenets of “Australian realism”:
(1)All entities exist in spatio-temporal ‘situations’. ‘Situations’ are all that exist. All situations have the same ontological status. There are no ‘levels’ of reality.
(2) All situations have a propositional form — that is, all situations have the form of “A is B”.
(3) Reality is infinitely complex and plural. Every fact (which includes every “object”) is a complex situation: there are no simples, no atomic facts, no objects which cannot be expanded into facts.
(4) All situations exist independent of knowledge of them.
(5) Determinism: all entities — objects, events, situations — are caused.
(6) Ethics is concerned with establishing and describing what is Good. This is a positive science. It is not normative.
Tenet (2) seems rather problematic when combined with tenet (3).
If “All situations have a propositional form — that is, all situations have the form of “A is B”.” then how are these situations infinitely complex?
And as per (4): “All situations exist independent of knowledge of them.”; does a persons knowledge of a situation not influence, partake in that situation? If not so, the situation would be an atomic fact.
And so forth.
Anderson nevertheless counts as a serious philosopher in Australia. During his life his political persuasions wandered from Stalinism to Trotskism, to libertarianistic anti-authoritarianism after he abandoned Utopianism, and then ended up in a kind of complacent economic common-sense-ism with environmentalist overtones, losing the fanbase he had gathered in his early, radical days when he was considered the driving force of thought in Sydney.
Nietzsche, Nachlass, spring 1884
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“The instincts as judgments on the ground of earlier experiences: not of lust and un-lust experiences: because lust is just the form of an instinct-judgment (a feeling of increased power or: like when power has increased itself) - Before lust and unlust-feelings there are strength- and weakness-feelings throughout.”
[size=85](I just opened the book here and translated it as well as it goes - how the hell does one translate “Unlust” into English? Google gives “listlessness”, Oxford gives “lack of enthusiasm” - obviously that is not adequate. So un-lust seemed necessary.)[/size]
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“As an imitating animal, man is superficial - it pleases him, like with his instincts, the appearance of things. He adopts judgments, this belongs to the oldest instinct, to play a part.
Development of mimicry among humans, by virtue of his weakness. The herd animal plays a part which is recommended to him.”