What is Populism?

Did I say that? :sunglasses: :laughing: I’m almost 33.

Since a young adolescent I’ve always knew this nation was doomed where it was destroying itself. Over the past two decades it took me awhile to figure out why.

Would take way too long to explain and I don’t think you would listen anyways.

A strong charismatic leader always rises to the occasion in chaotic portions of history where whole societies are on the brink of ruin or collapse, who will rise to the occasion this time around we don’t know yet…

We’re at the point of being way past or beyond negotiations and reasonable dialogue where we’re at the point of eliminating opposition instead. At the very least neutralizing opposition. :sunglasses:

Violent revolution is the only thing left on the table as all other non-violent means of negotiations or diplomacy has failed.

I understand different conflict of interests all too easily Promethean and yes, people moralize as a way of justifying their self interests, I understand this also. :wink:

Also, I think you underestimate human nature where people knowingly conspire against, undermine, and go out of their way intentionally to hurt others for their own benefit. I have a different understanding of human nature than most and I do not view it with rose colored glasses. I’ve spent decades studying the more darker aspects of human nature which I view makes up the majority bulk of it, with that is also the reason human nature must be contained because if its not human beings will destroy each other or the entire planet. Human nature needs an iron rod placed over it to smash and mold it into something better towards a general aspiring guiding principle, I’m a firm believer in this.

Even if this seems unfair, its going to be a gigantic anarchic mix breed mayhem, a synthesis under the eye of the will to power. Under this prospect there will be endless more and less successful attempts to preserve racial purity and of course nations like China will be quite successful but I contend that this will bring them in trouble, and that as they begin to experiment with allowing good Han stock or whatever to breed with different races, they will quickly realize the immense potential their gene pool has when different patterns activate it. Then Chinese will really come to rule the world, but as a slow synthesis over thousands of years. It is inevitable, especially if the decline of the West is as drastic as predicted here, but in general its not really thinkable that China will not have to make use of its full potential to fulfill its destiny. As organizer of the world - here will be a legit “green” regime, let me coin it then, Chinamen, please make your government into a green dragon. You had the Yellow Emperor of the Dragon which is China, and Yellow is Earth, foundation, whereas Green is the colour of anger. But anyway the west, America, what comes of it - military loyalties must always decide. You have basically always hardline nationalists and geostrategists, as directions of thought, always in the history of war. Im not talking about tactics but as mindsets. So your military personnel is always going to fall in either of these two command chains no matter what grunts will feel in their hearts.

You’ve just ousted yourself with this terrible disgusting post.

“After white western civilization dies the Asians civilizations are next and getting rid of their own racial or ethnic purity through dilution is a good thing too.”

That’s all I need to know where your philosophy or thinking stands.

This is but a temporary solution to a permanent problem

There have been violent revolutions for as long as civilisation has existed because of the hierarchical structure of society and this has never changed
That is because there will always be those at the bottom or in the middle who are very unhappy with the way those at the top are ruling over them
So when there is a change at the top it is only a matter of time before the masses become unhappy with that regime and so want another revolution

In the old days it was more violent but nowadays we do not have to kill them as we can just vote them out every four or five years
But the principle remains the same - the ones at the bottom or in the middle do not like those at the top so want to remove them
So this is the reason why here in the West and indeed in any non Western democracy we have to have elections on a regular basis

False promises and the corruption of power are the two main reasons why no one can or should rule over their people for all of time
You cannot please all of the people all of the time either which is an impossible ideal any way so it should never even be considered

No system can guarantee Utopia and everyone that has been tried has been less than perfect so we choose democracy as that is the least imperfect one

And so when you do eventually get your violent revolution you will have that exact same hierarchical structure that has always existed
As I have already said the entire history of civilisation has been hierarchical and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about this
For it is a fundamental law of Nature - the entire animal kingdom functions according to it - and we are but a tiny part of that kingdom

To eliminate this within human society would require nothing less than we all become hard wired to the concept of universal altruism
This is just not possible because of individual free will and the natural instinct of human beings to want to belong to their own tribes

So when you do eventually get your violent revolution you will be happy because you will be at the top
You may not be ruling over others as such but you will have achieved the desired result that you wanted

But at some point in the future those at the bottom or in the middle will want regime change and so they will then have their violent revolution
And this continual change at the top - whether by violent or non violent means - will carry on ad infinitum till the human race is finally no more

The greatest empires that have ever existed are now no more because of this continual change so when your revolution comes remember it will have a sell by date

And often then makes things worse, gets beheaded, or both.

Then this coming breakdown functions like a lottery ticket for you. Poor people by lottery tickets because it means, maybe in the next couple of days all the misery will end. They are paying to feel less what today feels like, in the end.

Imagine it is 15 years from now and the coming apocalypse is still just around the corner.

You want them to suffer. But this ends up being you need them to suffer or you can’t feel right. Which means you aren’t here now.

You might as well be waiting for Jesus to come and lift up the righteous. It is the exact same psychological pattern, except you are honest about what for them is undercurrent desire for revenge.

None of this means that the collapse isn’t coming.

But the psychological pattern means you won’t be able to enjoy it when it comes.

It’s like applying for a job that will make other people feel bad if you get it.

You are living for others.

He was the first famous one for moderns, but for Romans, the first populists were the populares party (akin to the democrats or liberals) of the Roman republic, in part, and the optimates party (akin to the republicans or conservatives), in part.
Julius Caesar was a populares, while his chief rival, Pompey, was an optimates.

What is it you want to know Fixed?

I have no faith in voting or democracy whatsoever, for me it is all rigged where the candidates are preselected.
Democracy and voting exists to keep the dumb majority in line making them believe they have a choice.

I don’t want utopia and know that it doesn’t exist, I just want a system that works for a majority of people. I also want a system that protects and secures interests for racial or ethnic white people.

Different governments provide different outcomes or environments, just about any kind of government would be better than the current United States government. For me the United States government is the most wicked one in existence, it is a wolf in sheep’s clothing posing as the world’s savior. For me the United States government is a sinister one.

Not all dictators have been horrible ones, history is full of successful benevolent dictatorships that have worked.

Yes it is, because when you have nothing left to lose, you really have nothing left to lose. :sunglasses:

The only difference here is that when I speak of economic collapse it is a mathematical certainty where with this lottery the numbers are already known. My estimation is between one to six years from now, I’m a patient man as I play the long game concerning long term tactical interests much as a chess player has to think long term concerning strategy. For me all the national and international chess pieces if the world was a chess board game are going exactly as I’ve foreseen, the crucial element will be what last pieces are left concerning the end game. The end game is the opening or window of opportunity for revolution, like many things perfect timing is everything. :sunglasses:

Yes, I live for the future as I am nothing currently where I have no present. If people only knew how I lived they would understand. You ever seen movies of sleeper cell spies just waiting to be activated in what pertains to their overall mission? Something like that. Those spies, infiltrators, and assassins will wait decades if need be until they’re called for to be activated. In the meantime they just do a lot of waiting getting a job, house, mortgage, or a hobby just to pass the time blending in.

Except my waiting for an event once again is based upon facts and mathematical certainties. The math is incapable of lying or deceiving.

Wrong, I will be very happy, ecstatic, and full of joy when the collapse finally comes especially of this miserable piece of shit nation known as the United States. It’s like judgement day for the United States only instead replace God with that of nature itself.

Because your people are at the center of everything that damages and destroys my people.
Because they incrementally took over the UK and US with their fraudulent banking practices and Russia in 1917, subsequently massacring tens of millions of whites.

Winston Churchill

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

Because there were no homicidal gas chambers.

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Because your people are at the center of the white men bad, don’t deserve countries or borders of their own narrative, and everything rotten and degenerate in our society.

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Because the Israel lobby is the most powerful lobby in the US, 1 3rd of American foreign aid goes to Israel, and 90% of neocons (Zio-cons) with their Project for the New American Century i.e. Greater Israel are Jewish, and I could go on and on.

I understand where you’re coming from, but for me, populism is more concrete, rather than just what the people want, or what a politician thinks they want.
It’s that, but it’s also putting the majority first, meaning working and middle class white men and women in Canada, the US and the UK, increasing their positive and negative rights in particular, at the expense of foreigners, and the elite and minorities if needed.

Yes, Jews produced Einstein and Freud and a lot of other forms of power.
Poor dumb people, I guess.

Of course all this holocaust denial is too absurd for words. It is this dumbness and happiness to believe lies, this eagerness to blame ones weakness on some other people, that may indeed produce an American downfall, as it produced the German downfall.

Produced Epstein, Weinstein, Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, and Janet Yellen. :sunglasses:

[A bunch of Rothschilds throughout the centuries.]

Just to name a few, I can do this all night and everyday… :sunglasses:

Right.
We can visualize society as consisting of two concentric spheres.
Outside the spheres are foreigners.
Inside the outer sphere are the overclass at the top, minorities in the middle and the underclass at the bottom.
Inside the inner sphere are middle and working class white men and women.

The people outside the spheres as a whole are of less value to us and ideally our state than the people inside the outer sphere.
The people inside the outer sphere as a whole are of less value to us and our state than the people inside the inner sphere.

Why?
Because we’re us and they’re them.
Why’re humans more valuable than nonhumans?
Why’re family and friends more valuable than strangers?
Furthermore, foreigners, the overclass and minorities have been propped up at our expense for the last several decades, they owe us.

A few more things:

The underclass as a whole are of less value to us and our state than the overclass, middle and working class minorities.

There’re are also allies, other white nationalist nations, occupying a space between outside the spheres and in.

Value should be determined both decentrally, socioeconomically, and centrally, socio-politically.

We’re comparing the value of demographics as a whole here, not the value of individuals between demographics.

Right, we’ve got our priorities backwards.
White middle and working class families first, they’re the cream of the crop, our future.
If society, government and economics doesn’t serve them, what good are they?
Their standard of living should be rising, not falling.
Whoever and whatever stands in the way of their standard of living rising, must fall.
Conversely, whoever and whatever supports them, should rise with them.
They should have the majority of wealth and power in our country, not the overclass, nor minorities and foreigners.

Civilization is broad, in some respects, we’re already part of one big global heterogenous civilization, in others there’s western civilization (North America, Europe and Australia, some include Latin America and Russia), Islamic, Vedic, Sinic and so on.
Western, Islamic, Vedic and Sinic are the big four, and they’re all heterogenous.
If you’re talking nation states, then countries like the US have been heterogenous for centuries, whereas countries like Spain and Sweden have been homogenous until recent

In a heterogenous society, populism appeals to the largest minority, or coalition of minorities.
If we continue importing the 3rd world, a non-white population group will eventually become the largest minority or nonwhites as a whole the majority, and so populism/majoritarianism will appeal to them.
Populism/majoritarianism should appeal to us, but unfortunately we’ve developed an inferiority complex, we think like we owe the 3rd world something.
We don’t owe them shit, it’s a privilege for 3rd worlders to make it here.

:laughing:

Or rather there’re three spheres, from least to most valuable.
Outside the spheres are foreigners.
In the outer sphere are the underclass.
In the middle sphere are working and middle class minorities and the overclass.
In the inner sphere are working and middle class whites.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Nolan_chart_normal.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart

As a populist, the way the political spectrum is commonly conceived is deficient.
The Nolan Chart for example is a purely quantitative way of conceiving it.
Libertarian or minimal government intervention on top, centrism or moderate intervention in the middle and authoritarian or maximal intervention on bottom.

Liberal is defined as socially libertarian and economically authoritarian and conservative as socially authoritarian and economically libertarian, but in reality this’s not the case.
For example, liberals can be every bit as socially authoritarian as conservatives, anti-free speech, anti-gun, some feminists are anti-prostitution, ecological and scientific authoritarianism: anti-homeschooling, carbon taxes, forced inoculations, identity politics, ethnic, racial, religious and sexual authoritarianism: socioeconomically and politically propping foreigners, immigrants, minorities and women up at the expense of citizens, the majority and men.

Conversely conservatives can be every bit as economically authoritarian as liberals, corporate bailouts, subsidies and welfare, raising taxes to pay for the so called wars on drugs and terror (in reality they’re wars for drugs and terror).
And of course in practice there’s very little difference between liberals and conservatives.

For me, there’s a qualitative dimension to the left/right political spectrum in addition to a quantitative one, which I’ll get to in just a bit.
So quantitatively left is libertarian, quantitatively centrist is communitarian, where government locally or moderately socioeconomically intervenes and quantitatively right is authoritarian or totalitarian, where government federally or maximally socioeconomically intervenes.
Being socially libertarian and economically authoritarian or socially authoritarian and economically libertarian isn’t liberal or conservative respectively, it’s just being socially libertarian and economically authoritarian or socially authoritarian and economically libertarian.

So you see the Nolan Chart is all about how much government intervention there is, but not at all about what kind of government intervention there is.
Just as there is quantitative left, libertarianism, and a quantitative right, authoritarianism, there’s a qualitative left, and a qualitative right.
So what are they?

The qualitative right is elitism or conservatism, the notion that the upperclass ought to have more positive and negative rights than the working and middle classes, and that citizens, the majority and men ought to have more positive and negative rights than foreigners, immigrants, minorities and women.

The qualitative left is at times egalitarianism or progressivism and at others reverse elitism or reverse conservatism, the notion that the working and middle classes ought to have more positive and negative rights than the upperclass, and that foreigners, immigrants, minorities and women ought to have more positive and negative rights than citizens, the majority and men, at least until they’re socioeconomically and politically equal, if not until they’re the new elite.

So what is populism then?
Populism, which’s the antiestablishment in the west, is socially elitist, and economically egalitarian.
Conversely, unpopulism, which’s the establishment in the west, is socially egalitarian, and economically elitist.

There’s also qualitative centrism, which’s collaboration between elitism and egalitarianism, socially progressive conservative and economically social corporatist.
There’s also a difference between separatism and patriarchy, or matriarchy on the one hand, which can be seen as part of qualitative centrism, and supremacism on the other, but I’m not going to get into that just yet.

To recap, quantitative right-left: authoritarianism, quantitative conservatism, communitarianism, quantitative liberalism and libertarianism.
Qualitative right-left: elitism, populism, centrism, unpopulism and egalitarianism.
Bearing all that in mind, I’m a communitarian, and a populist, altho qualitative centrism has some appeal to me as well.