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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:17 pm

We must count our blessings though: at least we are not the Ocean.

Although they do all get to fly.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:18 pm

Curiously, bugs, not one thing high mountains hide.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:18 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:first of all, who would ever reveal anything of importance to a communist?

I suspect not even their wives.

I refuse to call any of these people Communists, as the only Communists I really know are my family, and the dearest and strongest members of that family were all involved very seriously in the Party.

What I distrust is Marxists. None of these Communists I love could be called a Marxist. None of them took an interest in his writing - all that matters was Solidarity and the preservation of culture against what was seen as a pact between fascism and capitalism.

All these beloved Communists renounced their faith in Communism as the USSR became a farce - that doesn't mean that when people were Communists, they were not the be trusted. On the contrary - the very origin of my grandfathers Communism was his extraordinary trustworthiness as a leader of resistance under nazi occupation.

To be sure, there was a lot wrong with Communism as it developed after the war. But it still put man in space and forced the US to become the great Hegemon. The US owes much to hard core Communism. This is a dialectic which did exist for a moment in history, the back and forth of cultural accomplishments of the USA and the Soviet Union.

There is a very good and suspenseful book about the birth of Communism in Russia; Gorky's Mother.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:22 pm

That was always standing in the bookcase right beside my grandmothers throne.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:24 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Curiously, bugs, not one thing high mountains hide.

No, they just hide yogi's.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:26 pm

Communism was brave, but it did destroy a lot of very important things.

I agree that the distinction exists, in that the ones of today are not brave one bit.

My great grandfather was arguably a commie, as he was part of the generation that was literally ball and chained from their commie University activities (he bore the scars until his death), eventually exiled and in that exile literally just studied Marx and made connections with communist parties around the world.

Then came back, overthrew the military guys, and planted a dark seed that one day grew into that mighty Oak Chavez.

Thankfully he married a good Christian orthodox and held Christian Democrat fundraisers and rode horses on thick forests he owned the end of which he never found.

But was he was proud of, what I am proud of, is the bravery. Of staring down the fascists. And eventually stepping on their faces.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:27 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Curiously, bugs, not one thing high mountains hide.

No, they just hide yogi's.


Not everywhere. The yogi's are often replaced by cows.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:29 pm

I know you know all this about my Communists. But their honour is mine so in this thread I will defend Communism whenever it is categorically under attack.

Its complicated.
There are also Maoists, and the totalitarianism of China.
They call themselves Communists. I cant really contest that.

Who would ever entrust something to a Maoist?

There youve got a serious point.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:30 pm

I've got a serious point anyway.

Honor has no particular political affiliations.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:34 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Communism was brave, but it did destroy a lot of very important things.

Well, yes. A lot. That can't be denied.

I agree that the distinction exists, in that the ones of today are not brave one bit.

My great grandfather was arguably a commie, as he was part of the generation that was literally ball and chained from their commie University activities (he bore the scars until his death), eventually exiled and in that exile literally just studied Marx and made connections with communist parties around the world.

Then came back, overthrew the military guys, and planted a dark seed that one day grew into that mighty Oak Chavez.

Thankfully he married a good Christian orthodox and held Christian Democrat fundraisers and rode horses on thick forests he owned the end of which he never found.

Your family appears worthy of some vast literary work. Beautiful stuff.

But was he was proud of, what I am proud of, is the bravery. Of staring down the fascists. And eventually stepping on their faces.

Yes. We are in agreement.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:35 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:I've got a serious point anyway.

Honor has no particular political affiliations.

That is an important point to make. Why one can never trust any movement which claims morality. Why Capitalism is the least treacherous system.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:37 pm

Capitalism is mechanical, by which I mean of nature, and thus actually has the capacity to impose certain honor filtration systems and codes that no man can undo.

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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:38 pm

This is also what Mamet so outstandingly discovered.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:44 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Curiously, bugs, not one thing high mountains hide.

No, they just hide yogi's.


Not everywhere. The yogi's are often replaced by cows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbRUTHGLu9s

Capitalism is mechanical, by which I mean of nature, and thus actually has the capacity to impose certain honor filtration systems and codes that no man can undo.

The sacredness of contract.

This is what makes Capitalism so lofty -
no one asks you to trust them at face value. Trust as a very severe thing is honoured, created only by ritual of some formal agreement. Be it by law or by a family code, there is a pervasive understanding that there is something like a word that is a bond.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:02 am

On the contrary. I feel the yogis make the mountains unwholesome and would like to smoke them out. The cows are cool. How the fuck did they even get there?

Try staring down a bull on a narrow path.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:37 pm

Is it possible the yogis first got there and then evolved into cows?
They are both vegetarian species after all.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:21 pm

As we speak, the lord Jupiter is ingressing into the kingdom of Capricorn and joining here the lords Pluto and Saturn and the lady Venus.

Pluto has been in Capricorn since the end of 2008. You'll remember the elections and the financial upheavals. That November is archetypical for the last stand of the age of Capricorn.
At that very moment, Jupiter was also in Capricorn.

Since then he has made his 12 year path through the Zodiac and when he arrived in Virgo, philosophers wised up and created the Jupiter Calendar.

Now, once Jupiter moves out of Capricorn into Aquarius on December 19 2020, he will do so virtually simultaneously with Saturn.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:39 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:11 am

Greed is good.
In Chinese, "rice"="meal".
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Aegean » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:26 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Freuds work needed to be quadratized.
I gather that his desire to copulate with his own mother and replace the shame of his father that he universalized into a universal psychosis is something you can relate to?
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:55 pm

Aegean, you know, with all due politeness,

Who the hell says copulate?
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Aegean » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Aegean, you know, with all due politeness,

Who the hell says copulate?
Oh sorry...right.
I forgot who I was around.

Fuck.
Freud wanted to fuck his own mother and replace his shameful father.
Avid cocaine user. It is said he...FUCKED his sister-in-law, instead.
Some have speculated that his shame about his daddy, was due to an incident where he gave way to goy....or that his father sexually abused him.
The entire family was sexually degenerate. Typical of the chosen ones that have given up their Judaic, faith.
A mind that could think of fucking his own mother, was not a healthy one.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:16 pm

Yeah that's a lot better.
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:20 pm

Lol. Copulate. With the -type females. No not even the. With - type females.

Blegh lol.

Hahahahahahaha
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Re: The Philosophers

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:25 pm

This is why caste-systems will always exist - untouchable human filth exemplified in this flaccid quasi entity which now disgraces the name "Aegean" as he has soiled so many names, will always attempt to creep up to approach some form of actual being.

It is a cell without a core; all that it is is membrane, responsiveness, neurosis. Look at how it types.

I suppose your attempts to congregate with it on its own level are to be lauded as a charitable kind of initiative. But... wash your hands.
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