So you’re a naive idealist and humanist then
Whether you like it or not a majority of other people around the world view things like historical culture and race as being real things. You sitting here saying it isn’t real or doesn’t exist accomplishes nothing.
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K: nice… so what am I, am I “white, self hating anti-white reject” or am I
a “naïve idealist” or perhaps I am a “humanist”. It is very hard to keep track of
insults and what they mean to me? let us start with the last set of insults…
A Naïve idealist… um, idealist ok, I can live with that but Naïve, explain to
us exactly what I am naïve about? or is insults the best you can do?
and the second part is “humanist” so put these two together, we have
you playing the opposite role of a “naïve idealist” and the opposite of a
“humanist”…you believe yourself to be a pragmatist, a realist… the second part
is you consider yourself anti-humanist"… that means you are anti-human…
to be a humanist means to stand with humans, to stand with humanity…
and you consider yourself the opposite, so you consider yourself to
be anti-human…a pragmatic anti-humanist…sounds about right…
you consider me to be a “hating white reject” and yet you clearly hate
human beings… and I clearly don’t hate whites, why I married one
why some of my best friends are white…why even my family is “gasp”
white… (mental note, will my sarcasm be noted or simply lost on
another way too serious very young person… only time will tell)
anyway, as far as I am concerned if you hate human beings, you have
far, far more problems then you know what to do with…
hate to break it to you sparky, but hating human beings is a bad mental
place to be…
whereas I am alright with the world… and why? because I don’t hate unlike
you…have a nice day…despite your cynical anti-human hatred…
K: ah, we reach the part where we discover why Zero hates everyone… he was homeless
and blames everyone for his being homeless… especially those terrible liberals who despite
their rhetoric, left poor old Zero homeless… I think a group cry will make you feel better
Zero… but to be fair, I was homeless for a stretch myself and I didn’t wind up
hating the human race or the liberals or anyone else for that matter…we all have
stories, I was born handicap with a severe hearing loss… and I could easily blame
everyone I ever met for being handicap… but I don’t… sorry, in the end, we
can only blame ourselves and we are the only ones who can pick ourselves up…
hate takes way too much energy to hold and maintain… so I shall stay
being a naïve idealist and a humanist… for I see what is possible and
you see what is impossible…
For some perspective, apparently we share about 60% of our DNA with flies, bananas unbelievably and chickens.
We share 96% of our DNA with chimps, so that 2% or whatever probably means a hell of a lot more than it seems.
But individuals within a family have meaningful differences, different personalities, different strengths and weaknesses, just as different families within a race have meaningful differences, and different races within a species have meaningful differences.
Australian Aborigines have an average iQ of 65, the lowest among the races of the world.
Before you say their low iQ is a product of racism or iQ doesn’t matter, consider this, Polynesians have an iQ of about 90 and Ashkenazis about 110, and the differences in academic achievement, incarcerations rates, life expectancy and so on between these three races is staggering.
Jews of course excel, Polynesians do alright, and Australian Aborigines…well, I urge everyone to look up some statistics on these three groups.
Or are we individuals first, then families, then communities, then races and then human beings?
Are we animals before human beings?
Should we let wild animals run amok and wreak havoc in our homes and on our streets?
No I am capable of seeing both, of nuance, you only want to see what unites us.
If that’s the case; there’re no meaningful differences on the other side of the artificial line, then why do so many of them risk life and limb trying to cross the line?
For you, it’s simply because we’re wealthier and more powerful, for we got lucky.
For you, civility is just a product of luck, like resource advantages, but in reality it can be a product of many things, usually genes and memes are the key things.
The apple seldom falls far from the tree.
That’s not the case in the west anymore.
It was when you were growing up in the 60s, but now everyone thinks like you do.
The left won the culture war and the right the economic war, altho the pendulum might be starting to swing the other way.
Culture is not an amorphous blob either.
Individuals from the same nation tend to have more in common with each other genetically and mimetically than they do with individuals from other nations.
It’s not an all or nothing, it’s averages, inclinations, tendencies…
Most people aren’t like you, altho they won’t admit it.
African Americans, blacks, or mulattos rather, identify with mulatto culture.
They listen to hip hop, they tend to date other mulattos and so on.
They’re more comfortable in mulatto churches, even when living in a cosmopolitan city like LA or San Fran.
I don’t, revel in it.
There’re things I like about others, there’re things I find interesting about others, but I tend to prefer my kin.
I don’t mind having a few others around, but I don’t want to be swarmed by them.
Most of the world thinks this way, every country besides white countries is an ethnostate. It’s so natural and normal to them, they don’t even question it.
They’re not even conscious of it.
They don’t even have to declare we’re an ethnostate, they just are, it’s taken for granted
All that has achieved is alienating white Europeans away from Marxism and communism just as neo-liberalism has as well. No sane rational white man or woman other than the degenerate idiots is going to flock to a political ideology that tells them they’re the boogie man and that they’re the root of evil in this world. No sane white man or woman is going to join a political movement that insists that they have no culture, history, or identity that is theirs.
Moreover, modern communism or neo-liberalism has essentially been take over by non-whites and a whole host of ‘victim’ groups that it has essentially purged all of its white members already. I agree that half this shit that is tolerated by the radical left today in the west wouldn’t be accepted in Stalin’s Soviet Russia. Gays or homosexuality for instance was not tolerated in Soviet Russia just as it isn’t tolerated in North Korea and China, all of those being communist nations.
It should however be noted that modern western Marxism or communism is very different from traditional variations as it is very unorthodox especially concerning its anti-whiteness agenda of which the neo-liberals similarly have adopted. They’re for the white working class, really? Within the last twenty five years it is clear that nobody gives a shit about the white working class, in fact no politician ever dares to mention the white working class by name publicly.
Of course the more both the political right and left ignores the plight of white European people the more white European people are going to look inward into themselves for solutions to their own collective plight which is why right now there is a national socialist revival that is growing in ranks yearly which is of course fine by me.
I will agree with you however that crony capitalism has created many social problems in society, I’ll give you that.
One may see this and its partner neo-conservatism in light of some of Adam Curtis’ documentaries, like The Century of the Self, The Power of Nightmares, and HyperNormalisation.
I don’t hate human beings at all. [Well, maybe I hate Jews as an exception to the rule. Those are probably the only people I genuinely hate.]
I do hate what has become of this world or what has become of a majority of people, I find it sad and a tragedy actually.
I’m actually more of a humanist than you are in that I would want a world where every race, ethnicity, and culture is preserved instead of your world where everybody is mixed up being bred out of existence because that’s exactly where your ideology leads to. So yes, you’re the naive humanist whereas I’m the human realist.
You hit the nail on the head.
It’s funny how all whites get blamed for slavery, but only a tiny minority of whites actually owned slaves, almost all of them upperclass.
The cheap labor slaves provided their white, upperclass masters with hurt working class whites almost as much as it hurt blacks.
The slavery of blacks for instance in Europe and the Americas only lasted a few hundred years compared to the thousands of years whites enslaved each other. For all the idiots watching this thread I don’t condone the slavery of blacks historically, I’m against slavery of any kind whoever it involves.
Really though, they outlawed slavery in name only throughout the west. Who looks at the extremely poor, low income, and destitute these days thinking they’re not slaves? What charlatan would dare call them free, independent, autonomous, or sovereign? They’re just as much slaves compared to those of past historical eras. The only difference is that they have I-phones which the NSA can monitor them with and that they pay for their own slavery concerning the financial expenses involved from their meager wages. The so called abolition of black slavery in the 18th century was merely a mandate that everybody of every race could be enslaved equally thereafter, slavery has never went away, it merely evolved into something much more sinister.
Also, don’t forget all those slave shipping naval fleets or vessels owned by a variety of Jewish nationalities. Few black historians talk about this anymore which is a shame, I wish black Americans would have that talked about more in public discourse.
It’s interesting Peter being the neo-liberal here is so dismissive of another’s hardships, struggles, or suffering, then again neo-liberals are infamous for supposedly caring about the poor while ignoring them at the same time.
Neo-liberal California for instance having one of the highest homeless populations in the entire United States.
What great upstanding humanitarians neo-liberals are…
Most whites want universal healthcare, education and wage increases, including most working and lower middle class whites living in the South and Midwest, most of them just aren’t willing to pay carbon taxers, higher taxes in general or trade in their borders, free speech, guns, national sovereignty and so on to get them, whereas most nonwhites will.
They won’t go for racial, religious and sexual discrimination against whites, Christians and men the way nonwhites or middle class whites living in California or New York will.
Non-Hispanic whites are still the majority, they make up about 60% of the population and probably something like 80% of the people who vote.
The white vote is still the most important vote, it should be top priority for both parties.
If they softened their stance on the aforementioned issues, if they promised to deliver universal healthcare and education while lowering or at least not raising taxes for working and lower middle class Americans, and then began delivering on those promises, democrats could win far more often than they do, but they won’t, because the economy is no longer their top priority, instead war, cheap labor, the subjugation and extermination of whites and their culture is the top priority for both parties.
While not all socialists are anti-white, Marxists overwhelmingly are.
The socialist movement was founded by whites, but it’s been hijacked by Jews and other antiwhites.
Identity politics has taken center stage with these people.
Promethean is a lone wolf Marxist, given that he’s mostly white with some minor Mediterranean Lebanese in him it would be interesting if he joined the American Communist Party only to find out that they’ll tell his cracka ass to check his white male privilege where he doesn’t deserve a voice on anything for being an ‘oppressor’.
Promethean, if you’re looking at this I double dare you to do that and film it on video to post on the forum so me along with Gloominary can laugh at the results. Afterwards I will try to convert you to fascism and national socialism in philosophical rehabilitation, we can do this together man. I know that I can exorcise the Marxism out of you eventually with time.
Yup, republicrats don’t care about the poor, like you said, as long you’re at war, as long as the border stays open, as long as wall street gets a bail out, as long as the anti-white male agenda is in full swing, that’s what matters.
Socialism began as a pro or at least not anti-white movement, but it was taken over by Marxist Jews who were covertly anti-white.
Of course Mussolini and Hitler tried to put a stop to that, but failed.
Social democracy increasingly became less about workers rights and more about overtly hating white males over time.
People don’t understand what the left has become.
The left used to be economically socialist and socially conservative or libertarian, now it’s economically crony capitalist and socially anticonservative, not just not conservative, but anticonservative, where the freaks are given a platform and propped up at the expense of normies who’re de-platformed, it’s bizarre.
People are sick of it but unfortunately the right is pretty much the same thing.
