There isn't really a muse thread.

The Course

Toward complex, toward interaction, toward balance, toward intelligence, IT reaches and it does this not through omniscience but trial and error, failure and success. This does not seem like it knows what it is doing, but learning just the same. Has it made mistakes, yes, branches die off. Does it repeat those mistakes? From a single cell, budding, to sexual reproduction and the first notions of love. Protecting it’s own offspring. From a single cell, to plants and animals. Plants feeding from sun light and animals feeding from plants, in a balance, raising life up in ever more complex ways. Catastrophic clashes, two steps forward one step back, perseverance, stepping forward despite it’s mistakes and against the odds. The Earth changing as it moves forward. Continents formed, continents split apart. Cooling and warming, rainy and dry.

Towards a cooperation, independent of the participants individual awareness. Waste-less, recycling, renewing, IT marches on. Dependent and independence, reaching up, and moving forward. More and more difference in the participants with larger and larger populations. Living in the soil, living in the oceans, living on land, and flying the skies. Diverse solutions to the same problems of survival and continuance. Interacting, assisting, instinctual, working together without reasoning, without favor, without compassion, a cooperation without cooperating. An insect drawn to a plants scent and coloration to aid in the plants reproduction without knowing. The plant growing to provide an animal with food without thinking, a cooperation without cooperating.

Awareness developing in IT’s parts, curiosity, insight, and intuition. All of IT nature, from a single cell to multi cellular, from a single star to a nebula, natural. Raising itself up, in ever more complex ways, relentlessly, toward an intelligence. Competing with itself to keep it in balance without waste. Energy conservation, exploration of niches, costs, IT moves forward and along a path. Adaptations both succeeding and failing driving itself along, problem solving as it moves along through trial and error; a strange isolation onto a singular rock. Development in isolation and in cooperation without a knowing of it. Toward complexity, toward life’s survival and it’s evolution, it’s adaptation, raising itself up.

Value intrinsic, is it’s balance. The parts and pieces working together long before we got here, and will be, if we allow it, and if we don’t, it will be something yet imagined. Reborn in every opportunity.

That’s it. Show up before me and you’ve got my respect, until we’ve proven otherwise. Living with it.

A being in and of it. I gotta learn how to relax, and as Lennon-McCartney put it… Let IT Be.

Beware of garbage, as it relates.to the
the awareness of it:

youtu.be/y96M38mJgIo

Forgive Mowk, the length of the video may somewhat of a challenge, however it’s worth a look, in part to it’s significance in terms that allude awareness to more primal understand ing then the appreciation for the pasting of the potential for phenomenal reductive erosion.

Parting shot: this conclusion needs a lot of expletives even in terms of a self induced understanding.

So please do not blame me for a need to understand myself, in this way, it consists of my effort at self conscious continuance that may be ommitted, (objectively), at the same time, without. coming to the conclusion that it is merely for mine eyes only.

It just demonstrates the idea that touching on the periphery of any issue of problem , invites the dynamic machinery underneath that brings other formulations into at least subliminal relationships.

I’ll be sure to try to do that.

But perhaps, it is actually, for your eyes only. And that if one’s own house is not so clean lets not be looking for dirt in others. I do not wish to tell you how to clean your floor. I have nothing to sell. It is such a fine example of “your shit stinks” and because I use this “product” mine doesn’t. Meno_ your shit smells fine to me. I can not be sorry you find mine so offensive.

And I am glad You do not let a pejorative viewpoint smell.
That is why I believe in reinvention rather then merely repetition of the same old same old.

Thanks for allowing me that!

Sorry for the format change, it was a mistook.

Your view point of my musing, does at times appear pejorative. I remind myself in those moments why I like your thinking. I believe I dislike most your attitude that you have something I have just got to learn. I learn a lot my friend, just not the things any ‘one’ seems so insistent on learning me. A demonstration of a thing to learn if often a far better teacher. I’ll not teach you how to scrub your floors… you have your own attention to the details to deal with. Spend more time on Donald Trumps floors if that will get your floors any cleaner. Do you really believe you have reinvented anything? It does not appear so from this perspective, my bad, but you’ll learn that on your own or you won’t. For your eyes only. You are blameless and without tarnish in the only eyes that matter. Mine eyes are unimportant to anyone but me as I am the only one seeing through them or not. Can you forgive my insistence on being such an idiot?

That’s my line since I first came here.

No it is not for instructional purposes, just that connective sources come up, which help to clarify the background to what we are talking about.
I am no greater man, in spite of Your Preception that I have been more around the block.

This is a big problem with me, and it is entirely my fault
Again Your logic has not really gotten to the point of complete reversal, as I am ashamed to truthfully put the fault with myself.

At any rate, it is the narcissistic vampire vampire within which creates this optical effect, believe me.

Which is why you have my respect. Perhaps it does not always appear so at times, but generally I come around back to it.

Well you should then bring it front and center if that is the attention it deserves.

I didn’t say you were, we simply transverse different blocks. Perhaps you hadn’t noticed a similar worn leather. The sidewalks wear unevenly, I think. It is not such a grand problem, and it is no ones fault at least it is not my intention to lay blame on its account. If my logic was a reversal I am more clever then I thought, and to have me reminded, would be a sort of narcissism as well.

Why should I believe you in such a regard. Vampires have no reflection in mirrors, or so the myth goes. Tough to blame that on the optics of the mirror.

“Why should I believe you in such a regard. Vampires have no reflection in mirrors, or so the myth goes. Tough to blame that on the optics of the mirror”

Isaiah 9:2 Those who live in darkness…


(Connections: Faust, Marlow, Black Death, Vampire:

As plague stalks the streets of 16th century London, Christopher Marlowe is drawn into a baffling murder investigation where nothing is as it first appears.)
4ureyes&others only

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You lost me. No matter. I did enjoy Anne Rice, until she got around to Queen of the Damned.

Why should I believe you in such a regard. Vampires have no reflection in mirrors, or so the myth goes. Tough to blame that on the optics of the mirror"

International Version
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.

New Living Translation
The people who walk in darkness will see a great light. For those who live in a land of deep darkness, a light will shine.

English Standard Version
The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in a land of deep darkness, on them has light shone.

Berean Study Bible
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death, a light has dawned.

New American Standard Bible
The people who walk in darkness Will see a great light; Those who live in a dark land, The light will shine on them.

New King James Version
The people who walked in darkness Have seen a great light; Those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, Upon them a light has shined.

King James Bible
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

Christian Standard Bible
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; a light has dawned on those living in the land of darkness.

Contemporary English Version
Those who walked in the dark have seen a bright light. And it shines upon everyone who lives in the land of darkest shadows.

Good News Translation
The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light. They lived in a land of shadows, but now light is shining on them.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; a light has dawned on those living in the land of darkness.

International Standard Version
The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; for those living in a land of deep darkness, a light has shined upon them.

NET Bible
The people walking in darkness see a bright light; light shines on those who live in a land of deep darkness.

New Heart English Bible
The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light. Those who lived in the land of the shadow of death, on them the light has shined.

GOD’S WORD® Translation
The people who walk in darkness will see a bright light. The light will shine on those who live in the land of death’s shadow.

JPS Tanakh 1917
The people that walked in darkness Have seen a great light; They that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, Upon them hath the light shined.

New American Standard 1977
The people who walk in darkness Will see a great light; Those who live in a dark land, The light will shine on them.

Jubilee Bible 2000
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; those that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them has the light shined.

King James 2000 Bible
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them has the light shined.

American King James Version
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, on them has the light shined.

American Standard Version
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
O people walking in darkness, behold a great light: ye that dwell in the region and shadow of death, a light shall shine upon you.

Douay-Rheims Bible
The people that walked in darkness, have seen a great light: to them that dwelt in the region of the shadow of death, light is risen.

Darby Bible Translation
the people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; they that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them light hath shone.

English Revised Version
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

Webster’s Bible Translation
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shades of death, upon them hath the light shined.

World English Bible
The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light. Those who lived in the land of the shadow of death, on them the light has shined.

Young’s Literal Translation
The people who are walking in darkness Have seen a great light, Dwellers in a land of death-shade, Light hath shone upon them.
Study Bible
Unto Us a Child is Born
1Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those in distress. In the past He humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future He will honor the Way to the Sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles: 2The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death, a light has dawned. 3You have enlarged the nation and increased its joy. The people rejoice before You as they rejoice at harvest time, as men rejoice in dividing the plunder.…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
Matthew 4:16
the people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death, a light has dawned."

Luke 1:79
to shine on those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

Luke 2:32
a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and for glory to Your people Israel."

Ephesians 5:8
For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light,

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Isaiah 50:10
Who among you fears the LORD and obeys the voice of His Servant? Who among you walks in darkness and has no light? Let him trust in the name of the LORD; let him lean on his God.

Isaiah 60:19
No longer will the sun be your light by day, and the brightness of the moon will not shine on you; for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your splendor.

Micah 7:8
Do not gloat over me, my enemy! Though I have fallen, I will arise; though I sit in darkness, the LORD will be my light.

Treasury of Scripture
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, on them has the light shined.

walked

Isaiah 50:10
Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.

Isaiah 60:1-3,19
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee…

Micah 7:8,9
Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me…

in the land

Job 10:21
Before I go whence I shall not return, even to the land of darkness and the shadow of death;

Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Psalm 107:10,14
Such as sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, being bound in affliction and iron; …

Lexicon
The people
הָעָם֙ (hā·‘ām)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong’s Hebrew 5971: A people, a tribe, troops, attendants, a flock

walking
הַהֹלְכִ֣ים (ha·hō·lə·ḵîm)
Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural
Strong’s Hebrew 1980: To go, come, walk

in darkness
בַּחֹ֔שֶׁךְ (ba·ḥō·šeḵ)
Preposition-b, Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong’s Hebrew 2822: The dark, darkness, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness

have seen
רָא֖וּ (rā·’ū)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong’s Hebrew 7200: To see

a great
גָּד֑וֹל (gā·ḏō·wl)
Adjective - masculine singular
Strong’s Hebrew 1419: Great, older, insolent

light;
א֣וֹר (’ō·wr)
Noun - common singular
Strong’s Hebrew 216: Illumination, luminary

on
עֲלֵיהֶֽם׃ (‘ă·lê·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong’s Hebrew 5921: Above, over, upon, against

those living
יֹשְׁבֵי֙ (yō·šə·ḇê)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct
Strong’s Hebrew 3427: To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry

in the land
בְּאֶ֣רֶץ (bə·’e·reṣ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong’s Hebrew 776: Earth, land

of the shadow of death,
צַלְמָ֔וֶת (ṣal·mā·weṯ)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong’s Hebrew 6757: Death-like shadow, deep shadow

a light
א֖וֹר (’ō·wr)
Noun - common singular
Strong’s Hebrew 216: Illumination, luminary

has dawned.
נָגַ֥הּ (nā·ḡah)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong’s Hebrew 5050: To glitter, to illuminate
Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers
(2) The people that walked in darkness . . .–The words throw us back upon Isaiah 8:21-22. The prophet sees in his vision a light shining on the forlorn and weary wanderers. They had been wandering in the “valley of the shadow of death” (the phrase comes from Psalm 23:4; Job 3:5), almost as in the gloom of Sheol itself. Now there breaks in the dawn of a glorious day. Historically the return of some of the inhabitants of that region to their allegiance to Jehovah and the house of David (2Chronicles 30:11; 2Chronicles 30:13) may have been the starting point of the prophet’s hopes. The words have to the Christian student a special interest, as having been quoted by St. Matthew (Matthew 4:15-16) in connection with our Lord’s ministry in Galilee, perhaps with His being “of Nazareth,” which was in the tribe of Zebulun. We cannot positively say that such a fulfilment as that was in the prophet’s thoughts. The context shows in that he was thinking of Assyrian invasions, and the defeat of Assyrian armies, of a nation growing strong in numbers and prosperity. In this, as in other cases, the Evangelist adapts the words of prophecy to a further meaning than that which apparently was in the mind of the writer, and interprets them by his own experience. When he compared the state of Galilee, yet more, perhaps, that of his own soul, before and after the Son of man had appeared as the light of the world, Isaiah’s words seemed the only adequate expression of the change.
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 2. - The people that walked in darkness (comp. Isaiah 8:22). All the world was “in darkness” when Christ came; but here the Jews especially seem to be intended. It was truly a dark time with them when Christ came (see Dollinger’s ‘Judenthum and Heidenthum,’ vol. 2. pp. 301-335). Have seen; rather, saw. The “prophetic” preterit is used throughout the whole passage. A great light. “The Light of the world,” “the Sun of righteousness,” "the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world, “first broke on man in that northern tract” by the way of the sea, "when Jesus came forward to teach and to preach in “Galilee of the Gentiles.” For thirty years he had dwelt at Nazareth, in Zebulon. There he had first come forward to teach in a synagogue (Luke 4:16-21); in Galilee he had done his first miracles (John 2:11; John 4:54); at Capernaum. “Upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim,” he commenced his preaching of repentance (Matthew 4:13-17). The “light” first streamed forth in this quarter, glorifying the region on which contempt had long been poured.
Matthew Henry Commentary
9:1-7 The Syrians and Assyrians first ravaged the countries here mentioned, and that region was first favoured by the preaching of Christ. Those that want the gospel, walk in darkness, and in the utmost danger. But when the gospel comes to any place, to any soul, light comes. Let us earnestly pray that it may shine into our hearts, and make us wise unto salvation. The gospel brings joy with it. Those who would have joy, must expect to go through hard work, as the husbandman, before he has the joy of harvest; and hard conflict, as the soldier, before he divides the spoil. The Jews were delivered from the yoke of many oppressors; this was a shadow of the believer’s deliverance from the yoke of Satan. The cleansing the souls of believers from the power and pollution of sin, would be by the influence of the Holy Spirit, as purifying fire. These great things for the church, shall be done by the Messiah, Emmanuel. The Child is born; it was certain; and the church, before Christ came in the flesh, benefitted by his undertaking. It is a prophecy of him and of his kingdom, which those that waited for the Consolation of Israel read with pleasure. This Child was born for the benefit of us men, of us sinners, of all believers, from the beginning to the end of the world. Justly is he called Wonderful, for he is both God and man. His love is the wonder of angels and glorified saints. He is the Counsellor, for he knew the counsels of God from eternity; and he gives counsel to men, in which he consults our welfare. He is the Wonderful Counsellor; none teaches like him. He is God, the mighty One. Such is the work of the Mediator, that no less power than that of the mighty God could bring it to pass. He is God, one with the Father. As the Prince of Peace, he reconciles us to God; he is the Giver of peace in the heart and conscience; and when his kingdom is fully established, men shall learn war no more. The government shall be upon him; he shall bear the burden of it. Glorious things are spoken of Christ’s government. There is no end to the increase of its peace, for the happiness of its subjects shall last for ever. The exact agreement of this prophecy with the doctrine of the New Testament, shows that Jewish prophets and Christian teachers had the same view of the person and salvation of the Messiah. To what earthly king or kingdom can these words apply? Give then, O Lord, to thy people to know thee by every endearing name, and in every glorious character. Give increase of grace in every heart of thy redeemed upon earth.
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Why should I believe you in such a regard. Vampires have no reflection in mirrors, or so the myth goes. Tough to blame that on the optics of the mirror"

Why should I believe you in such a regard. Vampires have no reflection in mirrors, or so the myth goes. Tough to blame that on the optics of the mirror"

Vampires can not see their reflection in the mirror because they live in darkness.

The question is how darkness came about?

That is tantamount to who or what is responsible

Absolute relief-belief needed to allay that notion.

If we have to admit to that responsibility to our selves, then we be damned, notwithstanding queen and country.

Who put the nickle in you? What’s the ham flavored meat product that comes in a can?

Never You(r) mind.

But for consistencies’ sake, let’s put this down to many trips around the block.

I am contra Bertrand Russel’s ’ This is why i am not a Christian.’ and contra the idea of the irrevocality of Kant’s transcendendental categorical imperative per the naturalistic fallacy.

It is of a necessity that all able bodied men come to their senses, and come to the aid of their party.

It may be the last warning coming from the Oracle of Delphi

You sure enjoy quoting the bible; a thumper.

Never your mind. Cute.

Its a short block and I’ve seen you cutting corners.

You’re throwing a party? I’m in. Will there be beer? Porters and Brown Ale, I like Stout too.

Yeah. Delphi.

If you have a request ask it. If you’re nuts say so. If your wife is away and ya got nothing better to do, Then continue on waxing poetic.

News flash, the secret decoder ring wasn’t in my box of cracker jack. Speak like a human being would you? One of us isn’t “IN” on your gig.

Funny you should say so, and so much for profiteering in subversive alienation.
But that already said, let’s leave it to some mutual agreement to disagree, with a longed for return to some neverlanded prosaics, in stead for poets musings.