Trump impeachment proceedings begin today.

So you’re basically admitting most of your sources of information are politically biased. Alright then, thanks for that Carleas in confirming my suspicions.

Sucking off the teat of society? Well it appears our Marxist lite democrat is also an elitist where he looks down on the poor, disenfranchised, and lower ranking members of society. Of course this is no surprise by me given the blatant hypocrisy of his political affiliation. The upper echelons of the democratic party always like to look at others as their betters. Carleas, those of your political persuasion are in store for a rude awakening is all I can say. I know you’re not going to believe anything I have to say, but I’ve said it nonetheless.

The Military Times article doesn’t include retired or end of service military veterans.

Also, the military has been struggling to acquire more soldiers or servicemen because nobody is stupid enough to join anymore where their enrollment numbers have been declining for years now. They’re even having a hard time getting inner city ‘racial minorities’ to even join up in recruitment.

One wonders the accuracy of such military polling at all.

Yes, a main difference between Obama and Trump is that the liberal-left Media establishment protected Obama’s extortion, but want to crucify Trump for the same thing.

The true “quid-pro-quo” is why Obama wasn’t driven out of office and countless witch-hunts, for the same actions, agendas, and political maneuvers.

I refer you again to my question and comments here; “high crime” doesn’t mean a “big crime”; an “impeachable offense” is basically a meaningless phrase.

Define your terms, and be specific.

Impeachment is either a legitimate complaint, following a severe “High Crime” by the US President, or, it is an illegitimate complain by one party to forcibly remove the US president of the opposing party, under false-pretense, which is also a violation of the US constitution, by which the people elect the Commander-in-Chief to office. If impeachment is illegitimate, then it is the essence of Anti-Democracy. The Democrats are stating, with this illegitimate coup, that “your majority vote” (for the President) be damned, “if we have the votes then we will impeach”. And they will try to impeach, even without the votes.

A legitimate impeachment would follow a severe, “High Crime”. If the President were 1) declaring war unconstitutionally, 2) extorting for sums of tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of personal gain, 3) conducting federal crimes such as murder, rape, or theft (point 2), 4) or any other severe breach of the US constitution. Trump has done nothing of the sorts.

And it can, and will be, easily argued by Trump and Republicans, that the basis of any “investigation” into Biden, is synonymous or tantamount to internal corruption, which it arguably was. Under the Obama administration, Biden admitted, on tape, of Bribery and Extortion in Ukraine. Therefore, Trump has a legitimate Right to investigate that, whether internally or externally (through Ukraine), doesn’t really matter. Furthermore, what is proved, is the Liberal-Left-Media, Fake-News Agencies, protect their own, and were unwilling to call-out Biden on his Corruptions, while pressing witch-hunt after witch-hunt against Trump, producing a double-standard. Trump was/is right. The Liberal-Left-Media is an enemy of Democracy, and enemy of the State. The ruthless lying, by the Media, is finally being checked by Trump, an Anti-Establishment Non-Politician, which is precisely what the public wanted in 2016, the public wants now, and the public will elect into 2020 and possibly beyond.

Trump backs-up his promises, which upsets the normal and traditional “Politicians”, who all, do not. Politicians, the Establishment, is intimidated by Trump, for this reason especially. Trump is draining the swamp, and should continue to do so, perhaps even go further, and launch a State-funded attack against the Press.

Also, related to the Press, why haven’t the Mass Media looked into the Epstein matter, outed by the ABC News Anchor recently? How corrupt exactly, are the Mass-Media News agencies and corporations? How many pedophile connections are there, exactly? Again, why isn’t the real news being covered? Because, the Liberal-Left-Fake-News, protects its own. It protected and protects Epstein and his clients (how many of them are Media Executives???), it protected Obama and Hillary, and it protects its political and social interests.

The flow of the forum appear to try to recapture proceedings determinally, hoping to shore up the rules which have been prescribed.
Such procedures are failing substantially, since policy considerations have been slowly eroding public trust in the application of rules.
The irony rests with the republicans, especially those who want to conserve
public trust .
The last frontier is that . which exists in international relations, and today’s hearing makes.that clear with the divergence between various committees investigating, with the intelligence committee signifying precedence between it, and the other committees in reference to national security and international relations.
The polls do not show this , and the shadow international procedure, of policy of prior CIA venues, may be at the heart of it.

A “high crime” is also not a “severe” crime. A high crime is a mere breach of trust; it’s ‘high’ in the sense that it’s a crime when done by a person in a position of trust (i.e. a high position), and need not be something that would be criminal when done by a member of the public. Hamilton described impeachable conduct as “the misconduct of public men” or “the abuse or violation of some public trust”. In other words, the bar is lower for impeachment than it is for a normal criminal prosecution.

And that makes sense because the kind of conduct that should preclude someone from a position of trust is not the same as the kind that should lead someone to be put in jail; you might not leave your kids with someone just because they’re shifty-looking, but we shouldn’t make looking shifty a crime.

Citation needed.

Basically what it amounts to is a democratic committee in congress that interprets the law regarding low or high crimes based upon their emotional dislike and hatred of Donald Trump. That’s all it is.

[That and because their pockets are a little bit more emptier now with the whole trade war against China that is their biggest political financial donors.]

They’ve wanted him gone since 2016 and they’re going to throw everything they got at him until something sticks. [Until something is usable against him.]

That’s certainly how the rest of the United States other than uber neo-liberal democrats thinks like watching this.

It would be hilarious again if Donald Trump wins again in 2020, not because I like him or the republicans [I don’t] but just to see the Marxist lite democrats go insane four more years.

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Easy. Anything else?

Trump is playing Washington DC for fools. And I believe more of “Middle” America is following him now than ever before. Trump’s Anti-Establishment attitude is abrasive, to both Democrats and Republicans. But obviously, Republicans back him up on principle. They are stuck with him, since he ran through the Republican party ticket. Favor for a favor, Trump has admitted before, he knows how the Washington corruption and bribery works (he was a Clinton ally long before running for office). Also, the Looney-Liberal-Left has short memories, and forget, that Trump was almost universally liked by liberals, the Media, politicians, the New York Times, etc. before he became president. Then everybody turned on him, why? Because of corruption. Because of what Trump said from the start.

Trump, who laughs at the situation, knows how to play these buffoons. When the Liberal-Left threaten him, what does he do? He calls their bluff, and doubles-down, everytime. When the Liberal-Left goes hysterical, does Trump bend and apologize? No, he becomes even more brazen and confident, saying even more controversial comments. He stirs the Left up, because it’s free publicity, and he mastered the tactic early on.

Nobody in Washington was/is prepared for these Anti-Establishment tactics. So the “Democrats” have become Anti-Democratic. An Insane world indeed, a circus and clown show. Trump wins the majority vote, wins the “Democracy”, and what do “Democrats” want to do, they want to impeach, without any solid ground to do so. They have lost accountability and trust, from this. At least, Clinton was caught red-handed getting a blowjob from his secretary, and then caught lying after denying it. Democrats have since wanted revenge, and kept overplaying their hand, again and again, thinking they have the leverage to impeach Trump, without catching him getting a blowjob in the White House. That’s the difference, between now 2019 and twenty years ago, 1999.

The Anti-Establishment platform has now proved-itself. The US public, the majority, is fed-up with Washington Bureaucracy, and will do what is necessary to implement change, especially if that means electing the most Abrasive son-of-a-bitch possible, to do that job. Demon-rats have still not learned the lesson. They are desperate for popularity, trying to appeal to transexuals, censorship, socialists, and all fringe groups. The further Left, Democrats go, the more they lose base, lose credibility, lose legitimacy, and will lose future generations.

The Anti-Establishment case, now, is paving the way for better things to come. If Washington DC doesn’t reform, which of course they won’t, then they will be forced to, by the general American public.

But how, when both sides see the theatrical antics of a loose cannon President, rather that of irreconcilable differences between National and international approaches?

Is this not a catch-22 of hell if no do and help of I don’t ?

When reality become a a fog, it is near impossible to conceive of a.grey area.that is palatable. The next election is seeking a the better of the worse scenario, and the mud has not began to fly in earnest.

An international government is the answer, with a world court adjudication , this whole show is geared toward The World Government.
Everyone is under the weather, because they know, that their identity is going to be shredded.
Either that, or the usual. a very big war, that becomes necessary because nobody wants it.

What no one wants to really admit by underplaying its significance is, that this really is a huge Constitutional crisis , and minimization is not the key to controlling a run away train.

Perhaps this has been planned as such, very cleverly disguising the fact since the scary days of Reagonimics and the Star wars deception.

The ice bergs have floated to the top.

The bigger issues are:
National Government versus International Government,
Democracy versus Impeachment (Anti-Democracy)
Establishment (Washington DC) versus Anti-Establishment (New York Elitism)
Left culture versus Right culture
Justice versus Corruption

I think many factors are shifting now, to places that many people are unwilling or unaware of. There are few “choices” to be made, because those in power, are simply following-through the processes that got them there. I mean, how else could the “Democratic” party be pushing Impeachment, which is fundamentally Anti-Democratic? The people vote for President, but no, voting doesn’t really matter, and only Congressional power matters? Representational power, not power of the Federal citizens? And then, next, how is the President elected, except through the Media, recognition, and being Platformed? Trump was a hero of “The Media” before he ran as Republican/Right. Then it turned on him, and look how badly and viciously it did so.

Did the Media turn on Clinton, Biden, Obama, or Epstein? No, instead, it protected these individuals. So why the double-standard, except, everybody is serving certain aspects of the status-quo? There are loyalties at play, and all these are becoming exposed rapidly. For all of Trump’s faults, one of the best things he’s done so far, unintentionally, is begin to wage war against “The Media”, and point-out much of that corruption.

Where is the press about the ABC news anchor, that “whistleblower”, who basically name-dropped the link between Clinton and Epstein. Fucking huge! Do you realize how big that is??? How damning? And while the masses are entertained with the political circus, nothing more is said? The major “News” corporations don’t even report or follow-through with it?

No, still just the first thing. That guitar music is righteous, no doubt, but what is that video supposed to show? It picks up mid conversation, so it’s not clear what’s being withheld and why.

When I go to the bakery and order some bread, and they’re like “give me the money”, and I’m like “nah, I’m not going to…If the [bread is not baked], you’re not getting the money”, that is neither bribery nor extortion, right?

So, what’s the accusation here? What’s the context? Was he acting in his personal capacity? Was he relaying administration policy? Was it even an accurate description of events?

Here’s the full video and transcript of the conversation. It’s clear from context that 1) he was there relaying an official policy position of the administration, 2) it’s in the context of providing aid to Ukraine against Russia, and even of praising the Trump administration for some of its steps with respect to the Ukraine, and 3) it’s part of an international effort to enforce sanctions against Russia and limit their influence in the Ukraine.

I suspect that context was cut because the editor felt that it muddied the water.

Let’s be clear that the witnesses against the President include many Republicans and career civil servants, several appointed by Republicans and several appointed by Trump himself. The lawyers who immediately recognized that the Zelensky call needed to be covered up worked for the President. It isn’t just Democrats, and it isn’t just a congressional committee that think there’s a problem here.

You have still not explained how you interpret the law regarding high crimes, so, glass houses my friend.

The context is that Biden brazenly admits to corruption, extortion, and gifting his son a no-show job.

That’s how much contempt the Liberal-Left has, believing they are untouchable, and they can do whatever they want without rebuke. Now that Trump is draining the swamp, the tune will change, hopefully.

Next, it would be nice for a news agency follow-through with the Clinton-Epstein link, and put the Democratic party in with the pedophiles.

Icing on the cake, let’s see if it happens.

You should watch the testimony given by two career diplomats in the Ukraine yesterday, in which they both explicitly rejected that Biden’s conduct was corrupt. Also note that one of them had cautioned Biden against a perceived conflict of interest related to Burisma, leading to that company’ exclusion from embassy events, and the other one was a Trump appointee.

Also note that the prosecutor that Biden was talking about was blocking an investigation of Burisma.

Also note that Trump was a friend and defender of Jeffrey Epstein, seems to have known about his pedophilia, has himself admitted to liking young girls, and has admitting to sexually assaulting women.

Trump owned the modeling world and didn’t need to drink the poison that Epstein offered to his blackmail targets. Clinton? Now publicly linked on video, with evidence, that is being spiked by the major news networks. In short, Trump was and is not paid-off, like other DC Politicians, nor is Trump bribed by 12 or 13 year old girls, like other DC Politicians and Media CEOs.

Again, even IF Trump ordered Ukraine to investigate Biden, and his obvious corruption (Biden Jr no-show job), then it is more than legitimate to do so, no “crime”, and certainly nothing worthy of an Impeachment. This only reveals how little to no case Democrats have.

Lastly, the Whistleblower should be exposed. While Whistleblower laws may apply to high levels of government and corporate crime. This is an Impeachment of the President of the United States of America. There is no “Whistleblowing” law that makes one immune to this type of trial and due-process. It is Unconstitutional to go to an Impeachment under the pretense of an anonymous “Whistleblower”. The President has Right to Due Process. And that means, confronting your Accuser.

If Demon-rats, and the Loonely-Left-Liberals have any backbone, they’ll do what’s right and put the Whistleblower up to testify, ASAP.

Otherwise this whole unjust coup, witch-hunt, is Unconstitutional in addition to a treasonous act by the Democratic Party, their handlers and constituents.

LOL

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Who needs Fiction, when you have Truth?! Ouch!

You are using a term of art that doesn’t mean what you think it means. The Constitution expressly gives Congress the sole authority to remove the President through the process of impeachment by the House and a trial in the Senate overseen by the Chief Justice. That is the process.

From what I understand the democrats got themselves slapped pretty hard yesterday and it basically was a republican political victory. To do an impeachment before a national election looks like a soft organized political coup, if the democrats were confident about themselves politically they would let this all play out during the national election by voting. Instead this national theatrics of an impeachment looks like a political position of weakness or desperation and most of the nation doesn’t respect that all. In the competition of politics nobody respects positions of weakness.

[Although for my disdain for democracy and voting it’s not like a vote means much of anything at all. For the sake of argument here however you would think that would be the political strategy to play here.]

The witnesses confirmed every allegation, and made new allegations as well. How is that “slapped”?

Trump has more than 1/4 of his presidency left.