Any time any one want’s to jump into user name stories, feel free. Darn trolls, :LOL: I’m joking, I am aware one thing leads to another.
Sorry, I listened to the vid. Anyone who calls another person a retard, because they aren’t aware of something is the retard. Correlation is not proof of causation. If my mom wasn’t a two pack a day smoker I’d have been born full term, not the 5 lbs scrawny ass baby I was, that spent his first three weeks on the planet in an incubator. So was I born when I popped out of my mom like a little fart or when I was pulled from the incubator finally able to breath, eat and shit on my own? I wasn’t expected until October, but I made it on the scene in early Sept. I was born a product of my mom’s behavior more than that of natures.
Seems Ive touched a nerve.
Astrology always does that with people desperate to avoid self knowledge.
Obviously your moms habits are in both your moms and your chart.
Don’t look now!
" Anyone who calls another person a retard, because they aren’t aware of something is the retard."
This is bona-fide endearing.
It is a dangerous business knowing oneself.
Why Delphi is high up in the mountains, I suppose. Only those fond of climbing in the first place would be recommended to look at themselves.
You’re talking to a physicist, by the way. You seem to be unaware that most scientifically established relations are only observed relations, not explained ones. Like the correlation of mass and gravity is no proof of causation. There is no such proof. And yet gravity is considered law - because the correlation occurs without exception, exactly as it does in astrology.
Please don’t make a complete douchebag out of yourself by making any more claims about a field you haven’t researched. I hate being made to look down on people I used to respect - it ruins my fucking mood okay?
Be a fucking man and do the work or shut up.
I flipping could agree with you more Fixed about knowing the truth of self.
So do I enter by birth date and time or the moment I was pulled from the incubator? If birth date and time was all that mattered. I’d have had a pretty short chart. I was born blue and not breathing. It would have been a pretty short chart.
Spare me your mock respect. If by astrology I can only ever be a douchebag, then I’m fine if that’s all I am to you. See you’re just another nut job to me, claiming to have reasoned everything is explainable in the position of the stars. That’s some serious fucked up self delusion.
So you believe you know yourself… and you credit astrology for this awareness. Could be, but you just sound sort of messed up to me. I don’t respect people for what they believe, I respect them for how they behave toward their fellow planeteers. Good luck with that.
So you’re a physicist, huh? a real one or one like the biologist, and scientist Urwrongx1000 claims to be? Well I’m the Son of freaking man, sort of like the biologist Urwrongx1000 claims to be.
A chart is just the map of the situation around you when you became your own little EM system, its neither short nor long.
But you ask a legitimate question here. Did you become your own system, when you were born or when you came out of the incubator?
Since I know few people who were in incubators Ive not researched that. But what seems likely to me is that the moment you came out of the incubator is a significant chart for you.
Well they didn’t put that nice piece of information on my birth certificate, I have looked for the records of my stay in the hospital after my birth. I was born on a military base that doesn’t even exist any more. Even finding a record of the military base is a mystery. The last time I looked up the address of the hospital on my birth record it turned out to be a private residence that was built 2 years before I was born.
But if you’re dead it would be a pretty worthless map. My sister gave birth to twin boys, both still born. They have names and birth records and are buried with our parents. She even had them baptized to insure they went to heaven. Can’t really fault anyone for a belief. The world is full of myths masquerading as truths. I try not to judge anyone too harshly, particularly those who can guess again.
Damn. Thats pretty interesting origins.
Well, yes. Much is worthless when you’re dead, I presume.
I might as well have a chart created for every date and time between my actual birth and my expected birth date, and throw a dart.
For all I know the choice to pull me from the incubator was sort of like, he looks ripe to me. Let’s call his mom and tell her the good news.
She told me she was released from the hospital the morning after I was born and that I didn’t go home with her, she never told me when I was released from the hospital. Three weeks is an inference based on my weight at the time of my birth and how fast I was likely to put on two pounds and the date I was expected. That is all I have to go on. I don’t personally remember any of the details.
I’m a Chinese fire dragon and a Sagittarius…
I know from my high school class that astrology was bullshit.
I have great signs, but so did they.
So all this time of study, and the question never came up before? I can understand how that could happen.
No, astrology of incubator births hasn’t been a specialty of mine. Im sure countless theses and probably some books have been written on it though. Though it could be said that my Turus cousin who was in an incubator has a lot of Gemini qualities this is nothing to go on at all, everyone has Gemini qualities as Gemini was somewhere whenever someone was born, and this is one case in one hypothesis. Astrology is only interesting where great masses of evidence point to a fact. Being a body of methodological applied knowledge, it is approached as a science or not approached at all.
Id reckon your natal chart is accurate in any case - your stage in the incubator would for example have been a progressing moon in the 12th house coming out at the ascendant or rather the 4th house cusp point at the moment of your release.
If Id approach it I could probably tell when you were released from your natal chart.
Fire Dragons and Sagittariuses are extremely vain, presumptuous, and wise.
Can you explain how your knowledge of astrology has actually affected your life in any positive way
Something for which there is no other explanation so it could not have happened to you otherwise
Like any science enriches a scientists life; most dominant of all effects it has is a constant being in awe of these majestic realities. A constant awareness of the astronomical situation around me is also an advantage. And it has helped me make people understandable to themselves but that is never completely undivided pleasure. Ive not yet tried to make money with it.
It makes the world a lot more vast and complicated, it confronts you with a lot of titanic facts, and it shows that “sense-making” in a contemporary way isn’t really very advanced.
I was anticipating you saying that it gives meaning to your life in the same way a belief system does
That you have found peace of mind as a consequence of it but you seem to be saying something else
I have zero knowledge of it and would never actually use it myself but I am interested in what human beings believe and why they believe what they do
You say you are in awe of majestic realities but you could have that without astrology so maybe for you it just makes the awe that little bit more special
I am in awe of things in majestic realities like black holes and neutron stars for example and more so because I can understand them through physics
The more you understand something like this then the greater the appreciation is although we are using entirely different means of appreciation here
It gave me the opposite of peace of mind as I was immersed in it in some moments that shattered me when I was 20, I also had suddenly weird magical powers and my coherent causal linear universe was shredded. It was so horrifying to find that no rational law Id know applied to this. But I learned to live with it and eventually learned ways to navigate my own chart.
I used to want to be an astronomer, or I was an amateur astronomer until I was 16 when I got a video camera and turned to filmmaking. Then this weird crisis came and then astrology came into the picture. It is really not such a merciful science. I found out how tremendously taxing my chart is and how it was bound to keep bringing me down, next to all kinds of lofty powers, and I simply confronted it and wrought some understanding of myself in relation to some powerful and unorthodox authority figures due to some personal alchemy in my psyche using the psycho-chemical substances of the solar system and the zodiac.
Gods as they exist in pantheons are always correspondences to planets, and these correspondences are always the same ones, regardless of culture or age. Astrology doesn’t give value judgments and doesn’t deify the planets, it is rather an observation of what exists, what kind of frictions of qualities are at the core of this or that being. It is impersonal. A bad tempered or ill intended chart reader could ruin someones psyche by making a very accurate but partial and particularly cruel analysis. And that happens, then they sell you ointments, and magical boons. You can see into someones psyche infinitely sharper than you can with psychoanalysis. But then when you see truly deep, I also tend to see situations there people might rather not be aware of, and which might indeed be disturbed into unnatural motions when some partial light of understanding is cast upon it.
On the other hand if you’re out to make someone dependent on you, a natal chart is an invaluable tool.
Its much sooner a burden than that it makes life easier - but in turn it is sooner a treasure than a burden. Its … power, its not tame.