âThatâs fineâ because you agree with me or because you feel that I am entitled to my opinion though it may not be yours insofar as my definition of worship with reference to the gosling?
Whether we are speaking of someoneâs feelings/estimation of their God or of their loved one, that kind of an experience is a transcendent one, saved only for those who they âseeâ in that way.
I suppose that if we all felt and went along with that âshouldâ of his, many animals would not have been saved nor fought for (neither on the street nor globally). Perhaps âworshipâ is not such a good word to use. Perhaps what we experience is empathy and a strong connection with other species.
Well, I am not so sure about that. I suppose that it would depend on the individual him/her self and how mature the relationship is with God. I tend to think that it might not be too much different actually. How do we know that to our pet, our animal companion, we are not as much of a deity to them in their eyes as a God is to a human being? I do not mean this as an insult. Do animals and humans not share some of the same emotions? Are we not all creatures who yearn to be loved and to love, to feel protected and secure?
Would you agree with me that some adults who worship their God do so more out of a need for protection, hence the words âall-powerfulâ and Almighty"? Might our animal friends feel the same way about us?
True and if to be believed, a few humans were raised by animals.
The future world will be either greenâpro life or brownâdecaying. If we choose lucre over life, we have no one to blame for our impending demise but ourselves. It behooves those who care about the Earth to challenge the current trends of devolution. It is not enough to disavow the myths that brought us to this place; a new and more Earth friendly view of religion is needed.
A religion that was intended to protect the earth would be fighting the huge disconnect implict or open in some many current beliefs. Our bodies feel better in nature - as long as we are dressed right for the conditions, have food, etc. Stress hormones drop. We think better. If people coudl actually feel themselves the value would come from their own self-experience, no need for a system of beliefs. But there is so little saying it is even OK to feel yourself.
Very true. Belief would have to become a sharing of felt experiences. Many who claim to be atheists or agnostics have experienced the at-one-ness Nature offers. I think some folks have tried with âUtopianâ societies, such as Gaskenâ Farm in Tennessee-- have tried to get back the open welcome Nature has for all.
Last I heard the Farm is still operating. But such attempts do not fare well alongside the majorityâs craving for more and improved things.
A small start in teaching ecosystems in schools might be all we can do until some disaster awakens us from our possessive slumber.
It not enough to condemn those mindsets that keep humans separate from Nature and from each other. We must introduce challenging new visions of our place in the universe. Old myths will have to be let go as new, rational and spiritual insights are born. The new insights will have to include the latest scientific understandings.
whatâs your waste ratio, your carbon foot print. Iâm sitting on a hundred poundz of plate glass cause there is now where to recycle it.
Whatâs it going to cost to dispose of all the LED lights that are all the rage?
Give me an old incandescent bulb. Sure they didnât last long, but they didnât involve mercury like phosphorescent tech did and they crushed down to next to nothing compared to the ballasting required of that tech.
Yeah buy LED, it will last longer then we have figured out what to do with it as waste?
Products need to be designed with respect to the entire life cycle, which includes disposal. That means they need to be easily dismantled into parts that are recycled, burned and handled as toxic waste.
Currently the only considerations are cheap manufacture and function. Almost nobody is thinking about what happens at the end of a productâs life.
A major obstacle is even recognizing that we have a problem ⌠that we canât go on doing what we have been doing for decades.
That was tried in the past but when people saw science taking over, it scared them into fundamentalism and literal reading of myths. IOWs, it scared them into stupidity.
The next time intelligence raises itâs head in fundamental literalist religions, it should be the last time as the majority, even today, who claim an affiliation to a religion are known by their attendance record to be lying en mass.
I would not pick a return to the older lighting as their electric use is higher and that means a larger carbon fooyprint to light the billions of bulbs. That is a guess on my part but an educated guess.
A great cause for you would be cows. Watch the documentary â Cowspiracy and see why.
How weird. A cow can do something I canât⌠eat grass and as result create protein. I look around the planet and there is a lot of grassland, cows could live there and I could still eat a part of a cow once a month and not feel too bad about the arrangement. Cows graze on grass with a view of both sunrise and sunset every day of their life and a preditor comes along. Not seeing raising cattle as much of a villain. Now capitalist driven means. Cow eat other dead cow parts, are denied the wonder of sunrises and sunsets and gets a bolt to the head for itâs troubles. How human.
Not so right. Not one problem but many. And you seem to have clustered them all together, as if the pile canât somehow be sorted out. If profit werenât the bottom line.
The new lights are also bad for the body. I can feel that, though I believe there is some pushed aside science behind it also. I special order the old kind of lights. And I suspect that this is known, that these lights are not good for us, but that they either donât care or actually prefer that we are on the badly affected side.
Man, I agree, to a point, as I donât have grandchildren. Maybe you missed the whole progeny isnât the point part, Life is. Yes? I have friends with some grand kids. Donât wish them to come to harm either.
I agree, for different reasons. You donât address them, but they still bring us to a commonality. Humans are very responsible for fucking up the balance of life on the planet. Pay more attention to the result, not so much the means. You havenât acknowledged them yet, so?
Your heart has some really cool colors. That grants you some wiggle room. Two by four, I am on your side. But, hey, keep swinging away.
