There are many perspectives to success which is a very loose term and is very relative.
Trump in general is a successful person given his net worth of 2-3 billion where along the way he has brought employment and financial success to many other people.
Whether he is happy or not, we don’t know about him as much as we know about everyone else, but at least he is not clinically depress.
‘Debt free’ is not a measurement of success.
One can do nothing so as to be debt free.
To succeed in business [I am a reasonable expert on this] one cannot be totally debt free. Various types of debts are necessary to optimize against various financial constraints.
What is critical is to ensure one or the organization is in a net-asset position many times over while at the same time is being productive in a net-positive manner.
In politics in the present circumstances, it is necessary for a politician to play the ‘political game’ but that must be within the rules of morality and ethics.
The reality of politics is the politician cannot be expected to meet every individual’s needs and expectations but rather to meet the majority or the average.
As I had stated, politics in not morality & ethics proper. Politics is merely guided by morality and ethics in a parallel situation with is legislature and judiciary.
Morality and ethics cannot be governed but they manifest from the individual’s mental conditions spontaneously. Thus moral and ethical improvements must happened within the individual’s brain by the individual itself with the facilitation of various organizations. This is equivalent to improving a skill within a person culminating in the improvement of one’s conscience of what is good that activates spontaneously.
The path to the above is via Philosophy-proper [theory and practical] not via politics.
At present there are great limitations to natural morality and ethics but there is an increasing trend within humanity toward the growth of spontaneous moral and ethics.
Thus given the current constraints and circumstances, Trump has done well relatively within 2+ years with an overall net-positive results.
A centrist isn’t likely to describe either the left or the right as brainwashed. But a right leaner may describe it’s opposite in that manner. I gather you are right of center.
Historically speaking, the right tends toward the philosophy of it’s my way or the highway, if the right gives that grace. So which is more likely to string a black man up by a rope until dead. A right winger or a left? Which was more likely to engage in slave trade? Do you believe Epstein leaned left or right?
No. Again. Trump has inherited an economic and military bubble that even if he were the most evil genius or bumbling idiot ever, would be impossible to destroy in 4 years.
As I had stated, there is a million and one thing for the individual, group, country and humanity to deal with while facing great constraints.
If you have complains, just compare yourself to those in the second or third-world countries.
Universal medical healthcare for all [as proposed by Bernie and others] is not effective in the long run. What is critical is there must be at least primary health care for all.
Most important is for a government to instill, in very aggressively in a sustained effort, to motivate every one to be healthy and take care of their own health, i.e. prevention is better than cure. Unfortunately this is not done by most countries’ government. The govts do make noise about such points but they are not consistent at all.
Look around you, every 7 out of 10 Americans are obese!
Trump like any other nation’s leader cannot meet the specific needs of all individuals but he has to prioritize within the present constraints. Given the current circumstances and constraints, Trump has done very well relative to leaders of many other countries.
As reported the North Korea has only shot short range missiles. In was in the past but at present there is no statements from N. Korea on any intention to further their nuclear programs. If N. Korea changes their moves significantly, Trump will definitely follow and counter with his own change in stance in that political game.
On the left, there are the centrists, the progressive left, the regressive left and the extreme left. It would appear you are brainwashed and bewitched by the regressive left. If you are a centrist left, you would have at least a balanced view and acknowledge Trump’s achievements while criticizing his weaknesses.
I am from the East and I am not used to the concept of rigidly either right or left as in Western politics.
In such terms of Western politics [I don’t prefer], my views can vary from middle-right to center to middle-left depending on the circumstance with the objective to optimize the results suited to my overall objectives toward perpetual peace and well being.
I believe Americans if they can, should abandon being in a pigeon-hole of either politically right or left. Rather they should focus on what is to be a good human being for the sake of the whole of humanity. This can be achieved via philosophy-proper that encompass the full range of positive knowledge and wisdom.
How can you expect any one to change things overnight for the better.
Given whatever the existing negative situation and that prior to becoming president, I believe [based on assessing the pros and cons] Trump has been successful so far relative to his employment contract.
There are still a few cultures left that are succeeding without capitalism’s heavy hand. Subsistence cultures. The are existing which is a success, and they don’t have debt either. If you are still around to bitch, you have already achieve some measure of success. It seems degree’s of hardship is the more appropriate question.
But my wife and I have done something. We have saved for a future, if we get to experience it. We have cared a great deal for our environment. We are extremely concerned about our waste driven economy.
Perpetual peace? That’s a spiritual thing. Me and mine or it and me are at peace, a few shakes along the way but their is an understanding between us. In the face of extreme circumstance a single man can find that peace.
If your notion of perpetual peace comes at the cost of killing everyone who doesn’t agree with you, I’m not in.
What has Trump accomplished for any second or third world county? He over exaggerates what the federal government contributed to Pueto Rico as assistance in the after math of hurricane Maria.
As I had stated ‘success’ is very relative to loads of perspective.
It is good you are successful in your own ways.
However, a President must achieved success that are transferable to the whole of the USA in a net-positive way. Trump’s success qualify to meet that objective in an optimal way.
I am sure Trump would have concerns for the environment but he had to optimize within the present constraints. When the critical things are stabilize his government will focus on the environment.
IF??
It is only your ignorance and imagination that perpetual peace has to be achieved via killings or enforcement which would be a contradiction to the term ‘peace’.
If any peace were to be established by force, killing and enforcement, that would at most temporary.
Note I mentioned the spontaneity of morality and ethics;
Morality and ethics cannot be governed but they manifest from the individual’s mental conditions spontaneously. Thus moral and ethical improvements must happened within the individual’s brain by the individual itself with the facilitation of various organizations. This is equivalent to improving a skill within a person culminating in the improvement of one’s conscience of what is good that activates spontaneously.
The path to the above is via Philosophy-proper [theory and practical] not via politics.
This is off topic.
If he had done for one or two such countries then he would be blamed for being bias and not helping the rest of other such countries in the world.
At least he had not done anything that is significantly negative to any other second or third world country like what Obama did in enabling IS to execute their atrocities in Iraq, Syria, Libya or what Nixon did to Vietnam in the 60s.
The topic is Trump is not ‘nuts’ but has performed well objectively in accordance his terms of employment so far in 2+ years into his presidential terms.
But not originally, and I agree with your newly stated sentiment, I argued it in prior posts. And the law lags behind. Also argued in previous posts.
Thanks for sharing long enough and deeply enough for eyes to see it. We humans do glance.
You really don’t know me, and I would like to know more of you. So just quit it with the idea you have to place me along a spectrum as brainwashed, I’ve already told you where I lie and will die, I am on the left of center. An artist and a dreamer. We can change memes but genes are better left to the cosmos. I still have a few punches left in me if you still want to fight. I’m “game”.
We have both already disagreed with the premise of the topic. So technically we have been off topic with much of what we’ve discussed. Trumps voter approval hits a high at 45%, still more Americans disapprove of his job performance. His term average is 40% approval.
The next time you’d like to promote perpetual peace you might try another approach, the one you chose didn’t “play” real well.
Peace will only come when the planets resources are distributed equitably. That is not Trumps gig. And if you are the expert in business that you claim it’s not likely your gig either.
Whatever I had posted is aligned to the OP and on topic.
To focus on perpetual peace is off topic.
This is a complex and serious topic and not relevant to Trump’s circumstances. If you want to bang on it, start a new thread on it.
Btw, not “distributed equitably”, but optimally.
In a setting of perpetual peace, resources should be allocated with consensus to those who generated the greatest “costs to benefits ratio” for the sake of all of humanity. There are more to this but it is off topic.
Note Theory of Constraints, and the likes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_constraints
I mentioned earlier most of my relatives and friends from the East do not have a good impression of Trump. They viewed him VERY [extra-ordinarily and extremely] negatively.
This is because they have been brainwashed and bewitched by the media who are monopolized by the left’s ideology from sources like BBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, and others. The local papers also get their sources from the leftist orientated sources.
It is fortunate for myself that I am heavily objective oriented with Philosophy-proper as my forte. The first thing I look for is stories from both sides and weigh them objectively and philosophically.
Bet that makes you the hit at a party. Ok, so pretty much everyone that is your family and friends aren’t capable of thinking for themselves? So what portion of the population do you estimate isn’t brainwashed by the left. Being on the left I must be brainwashing someone, huh, perhaps even these very words. You don’t seem to be inclined to the thinking that the right is at all capable of brainwashing. It always seems to sort of be cast in a particular leftist sort of direction. How very objective of you. You’ve got a fairly well impressed ego yourself, don’t you? Good luck with your distorted and twisted notion of peace.
You just want to make more money. I’m no expert in business as you claim to be. You are worse then brainwashed, you are delusional. And you have the nads to criticize my arguments of Trump as being one sided. You seem to have cornered the market in that regard. And worse you claim philosophy is yours. Boy you are heading in the opposite direction of peace. I have a compass or two I could spare.
Over the course of this discussion I have come to find you disingenuous in your claims. Low integrity. I’m just guessing but it sounds an awful lot like you have been brainwashed by the right. I am aware it’s complicated. You somehow think anyone else isn’t capable of being aware of that? I am sure that it is even more complicated then you are capable of comprehending.
It’s amazing that these enormous media corporations dependent on the advertising of other enormous corporations allow leftist slanted news and foster it somehow through their hiring practices. And that all of this Leftist propaganda never manages to sever wall st. control of presidential cabinets - neither when ‘left’ nor ‘right’ candidates come into office. That it never leads to campaign finance or lobbying reform and regardless of whether it is a democrat or republic in office it never stops presidents from starting wars or regime changes at the behest of wall st. banks, the arms and oil industries. The oligarchy should be so unenamored with leftist journalists. And of course in Trumps case even rightist news organizations tried to prevent him coming in.
In truth he hasn’t done much at all, except the deficit.
But, I agree, he’s not nuts. He’s a black sheep businessman in the oligarchy and they wanted a more traditional neo-con.