Only if you keep your definitions too narrow.
Try thinking as this idol worshiper does. I do not like where he ends up but his descriptions are bang on.
youtube.com/watch?v=SkZg1ZflpJs
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DL
Do you have an idea as to what you would consider an ideal god or ideology for yourself to try to emulate?
I will wager that it is quite human like or human based as that is all you could ever mimic or emulate.
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DL
Personal garbage.
Here’s a quarter. Call someone who cares.
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DL
Like the natives still do, by showing a respect for nature.
Compare that to the wanton destruction we are correctly doing with nature by having some guy in the sky god instead of seeing as an ideal and godlike the Earth that sustains us.
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DL
Agree. =D>
I don’t know why people would adopt such a ‘god’ at this point in time. Any reasons why they would?
The main reason is that our instincts push us to join a tribe. All a religion is is a tribal unit.
Our selfish gene craves security and for a tribal species, that security/fellowship is found in tribes.
youtube.com/watch?v=T64_El2s7FU
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DL
I didn’t ask why people adopt gods. I asked why they would adopt this particular “naturalistic god” at this time. Considering that they either already have a god or they are drifting towards atheism, there appear to be no good reasons for such a move. What would such a god offer them?
Unity of purpose, repairing the damage we are doing, which is required, given that we are in a major extinction event that may well include us.
That and our old gods are moral and ethical garbage and Gaia is a great first hand teacher as compared to what our vile mainstream religions teach.
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DL
Money, power and fame is what drives modern society.
Yes, while it should be intelligent and moral use of those that should rule.
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DL
Education about the fragility of natural ecosystem in which we are immersed is warranted. No one wishes to see our grandchildren deprived of clean air and clean water. No one wishes to see the future wasteland so many intelligent people have predicted is our future. If we do not learn our place in nature, we will die from preferred ignorance.
Karpel Tunnel
“That’s fine” because you agree with me or because you feel that I am entitled to my opinion though it may not be yours insofar as my definition of worship with reference to the gosling?
Whether we are speaking of someone’s feelings/estimation of their God or of their loved one, that kind of an experience is a transcendent one, saved only for those who they “see” in that way.
I suppose that if we all felt and went along with that “should” of his, many animals would not have been saved nor fought for (neither on the street nor globally). Perhaps “worship” is not such a good word to use. Perhaps what we experience is empathy and a strong connection with other species.
Well, I am not so sure about that. I suppose that it would depend on the individual him/her self and how mature the relationship is with God. I tend to think that it might not be too much different actually. How do we know that to our pet, our animal companion, we are not as much of a deity to them in their eyes as a God is to a human being? I do not mean this as an insult. Do animals and humans not share some of the same emotions? Are we not all creatures who yearn to be loved and to love, to feel protected and secure?
nautil.us/blog/chimps-and-the-ze … ling-water
Would you agree with me that some adults who worship their God do so more out of a need for protection, hence the words “all-powerful” and Almighty"? Might our animal friends feel the same way about us?
True and if to be believed, a few humans were raised by animals.
Karpel Tunnel
“That’s fine” because you agree with me or because you feel that I am entitled to my opinion though it may not be yours insofar as my definition of worship with reference to the gosling?
Whether we are speaking of someone’s feelings/estimation of their God or of their loved one, that kind of an experience is a transcendent one, saved only for those who they “see” in that way.
I suppose that if we all felt and went along with that “should” of his, many animals would not have been saved nor fought for (neither on the street nor globally). Perhaps “worship” is not such a good word to use. Perhaps what we experience is empathy and a strong connection with other species.
Well, I am not so sure about that. I suppose that it would depend on the individual him/her self and how mature the relationship is with God. I tend to think that it might not be too much different actually. How do we know that to our pet, our animal companion, we are not as much of a deity to them in their eyes as a God is to a human being? I do not mean this as an insult. Do animals and humans not share some of the same emotions? Are we not all creatures who yearn to be loved and to love, to feel protected and secure?
nautil.us/blog/chimps-and-the-ze … ling-water
Would you agree with me that some adults who worship their God do so more out of a need for protection, hence the words “all-powerful” and Almighty"? Might our animal friends feel the same way about us?
True and if to be believed, a few humans were raised by animals.
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I think that the educators are doing a decent job.
It is voters and politicians who do not have the political will to bite the bullet and pay for the clean up.
I grew up being told that the way to leave a place, any place, better than what I found was the way to live.
We are all forgetting that old adage and leaving our children a place a lot worse than what we found.
Shame on us all, while remembering that it takes us all, along with political will, to beat our dismal record of destruction and pollution.
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DL
The future world will be either green—pro life or brown—decaying. If we choose lucre over life, we have no one to blame for our impending demise but ourselves. It behooves those who care about the Earth to challenge the current trends of devolution. It is not enough to disavow the myths that brought us to this place; a new and more Earth friendly view of religion is needed.
A religion that was intended to protect the earth would be fighting the huge disconnect implict or open in some many current beliefs. Our bodies feel better in nature - as long as we are dressed right for the conditions, have food, etc. Stress hormones drop. We think better. If people coudl actually feel themselves the value would come from their own self-experience, no need for a system of beliefs. But there is so little saying it is even OK to feel yourself.
Very true. Belief would have to become a sharing of felt experiences. Many who claim to be atheists or agnostics have experienced the at-one-ness Nature offers. I think some folks have tried with “Utopian” societies, such as Gasken’ Farm in Tennessee-- have tried to get back the open welcome Nature has for all.
Last I heard the Farm is still operating. But such attempts do not fare well alongside the majority’s craving for more and improved things.
A small start in teaching ecosystems in schools might be all we can do until some disaster awakens us from our possessive slumber.
As the O.P. indicates, we are on the same page buddy.
Let’s hope such thinking catches hold and moves us to collectively act.
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DL
It not enough to condemn those mindsets that keep humans separate from Nature and from each other. We must introduce challenging new visions of our place in the universe. Old myths will have to be let go as new, rational and spiritual insights are born. The new insights will have to include the latest scientific understandings.