Emotions however would be but another inherent manifestation of the human brain wholly in sync with the laws of nature. They merely make the mystery of “mind” all that much more profound.
In other words, we feel no less wholly in tandem with nature than we think.
And minds think only what they are compelled to think. So, everything that they think must be logical in the sense that no one can think other than the manner in which nature compels them to.
So, it’s not a question of whether it is logical for me to insist you assert something to be true, but that in a determined universe I could not not have asserted that myself.
True. But it is one thing to note in this exchange that “what happens within reality has no bearing on the actual existence of reality”, and another thing altogether for you to demonstrate the meaning of this as it pertain to something that you choose to do “in reality” such that it then has no bearing on the actual existence of reality. What on earth does that mean?
I agree. In fact, that’s my point. What makes most folks uncomfortable is that when they do get down to seriously grappling with the stuff that philosophers and scientists say about free will and determinism, they begin recognize that they may well go to the grave never actually being certain that “I” is [at least in part] autonomous.
Sure, some take their own existential leaps to one or another argument, to one or another conclusion. But those on the “other side” have their own sets of conflicting assumptions right?
My point is that while there may well be an optimal argument that pins it down definitively going all the way back to, in turn, a definitive explanation for existence itself, I have not myself come across it.
Or, sure, perhaps I have [here for example] but I was not capable of grasping it. That’s apllicable to all of us.
But, really, if there was a conclusion reached by philosophers and scientists that did pin down once and for all whether “I” is free or not, wouldn’t it be blasting out of every media orifice?
Yeah, except that, given some measure of human autonomy, there are countless human interactions that are clearly embedded in an either/or world in which we are able to clearly demonstrate that some things and some relationships are in fact true objectively for all of us.
Barring sim world or dream world or matrix realities. Or the role any actual existing God might play in it all.