Are you Christian? Just wondering because you are bringing up Satan and the promises of God.
Peace girl,
I am a believer. That suffices.
I think a point maybe missed, by my integrative efforts to answer you in a narrative unity , in stead of pointing out incidental and particular irregularities.
That the effort of.
augmentation was not mentioned or maybe even noticed by you is surprising . at least from a point of view of initial analysis.
At least credit could be gained from some form of recognition of impartiality, not that I require a dynamic, structural flow into the pros and cons of unifying variables heretofore not spelled out
At any rate, it is what it is, and we are all prevy to it without exceptions.
Now coming to a.particular application:
The treatment of alcohol addiction could infuse a notion that periodic are more likely to accept the notion of some measure of partial recpgnition may indicate a willed effort on their part to enable them to reintegrate some fairly stable understanding of themselves, in between when they’re off the wagon, therefore it is a time changing interventove effort to get into the zone, and move them along to at least partial sobriety.
Get the picture? And this is an applied form of impartial opinion, while I am talking non metaphorocally, but using
sub stance beneficially and progressively.
Can You relate to this, Peace Girl?
For, at times it’s more prior i tive, to control one’s self then to worry about timely assumptive views about the world at large.
I so not see how to miss this objective impartiality flowing into both an appreciative awareness , and a.functional utility thereof - should not enter the state of mind as the primal determinant. Weather it be purely volitional or partially so.
To discount states of mind is like foraging into the philosophies of mind
and finding no relevant application; whwre by leaving everything to simulation and artificiality
Evil is not evil when seen in total perspective, which Spinoza knew. Everything was necessary but it isn’t necessary that evil continue anymore. We have aimed high and hit the mark! =D>
Spinoza may have known it, but he may not felt the need to contradict its variable and standard interpretation. as standing contradictorily to it’s opposing power to force ( a will)
He may have been unable relate to -beyond that opposition, for then, the ontological question would surface of how to account for the opposition.
Love is the answer to your satisfaction and determinism debate. Love can counter a greater satisfaction.
A woman being abused in a relationship will not feel satisfied, but stay because she loves the abuser, same with a male in some cases.
At least one of them.
Perception also can travel in time. Dreams, remote viewing,etc. pre-determinism.
The body changes with the present.
Many things can travel in time in our imagination, our dreams. I’m not sure what you mean by remote viewing and pre-determinism. This is the problem in philosophy. Everyone is speaking a different language. All views whether it is your idea of remote viewing or pre-determinism (whatever that means), can only be expressed in the present moment. We live in the present. You cannot show me an example of where we don’t live, speak, think, sleep, write, talk, in the here and now, not yesterday, and not tomorrow. These imaginings about the past and future are also in the here and now. If we had amnesia, we would live like animals in the present. They don’t remember the past and do not have the capability to imagine the future, which is all part of the brain’s ability to remember and to think about the future, IN THE PRESENT.
It isn’t imagination and you’re wrong. Imagination is not what you think it is or what most think it is. Near everything is possible to exist, merely about separating the noise and the plausible. The imagery is important. I have a thread that explains why. The impossibility of a possibility. It’s due to what you’re promoting here and I explain why psychologically.
The subconscious/unconscious mind that can grant imagery to the conscious surface has no discretion of time.
cia.gov/library/readingroom … 00250015-6
For some reason they took the images off the pdf there, I wonder why… maybe too many catching on that aren’t using it responsibly. They took a lot of the evidence off, it’s 5 pages now. I have the original 28 page pdf. Send me your email or something, I will send it to you. Let me know if this doesn’t work. I uploaded it. docdro.id/Tc8QVH7
Also Meno I think meant to say “foundation” not founsatio, you can tell he’s in a rush typing.
Once again, that’s the body you reference, not the mind. Ever talk to someone and they weren’t present listening? One can be in the past or future in their mind and a lot of times if logically/reasonably accurate, it’s a true prediction of it.
Attained balance = timeless awareness.
Yes, Peace Girl, that was a mistake. We all live in the image. The IMAGO the original film, of experience which does not translate into am awareness , until the word, which was in the beginning.
Philosophy does talk in many languages, and it is the responsibility of conscious thought to sort it out.
That kind of activity can not be done without imagination to conxiebe succession and hierarchy that only the word can introduce.
That is the primal failure of the fall and no secondary derivitive of it, to live without imagination, to ignore words which mean something otjer then a warning .The warning does not
necessarily imply determination in order to love a life, except to mean -driven to find truth, and act accordingly.
Every generation has.to live the truthful life , anew, relearning it by themselves, because otherwise it consists of mere directives in a dusty manual.
The Bible is the best seller of all times, yet has lost meaning for many in the sue course of time, it’s imagery has been superimposed into a recording image.
Marcus Aurelious said it well, when he said that an untested wisdom is not wise. A superimposition with Botticelli’s Venus emerging from the see, may indicate a dial interpretation. between the sound of the roaring sea. With God yelling at his Son: " Watch out and see, it is merely a shell, a seashell."
Nut of course being a little kid he goes for Her, and Pa tries to cover for him by by ‘discovering’ the futility
of self sacrifice.
But that is another story, partial to other expression of feelings, justified by a different set of rules, within the imagimation of Other Minds
It can just as well be asserted that the saying " live in the present is merely a metaphor. I am writing this determenently, in order to understand time, and end up with a metaphore, no matter how you slice it.
The present moment is already gone as soon as it is lived. We always live predeterminately on a conscious level, and in the proximate future as the last flows into the future.
This can be imagined or illustrated. Y set theory as well.
The perfect essence of the imperfect reflection must end sadly, paradoxically, because perfect presence implies slicing the gap between the relative and the absolute set up to a scintilla of a slice: where a scintilla is immeasurable.
Time expanded into the very tiniest segments end with uncertainty which is the quanta of temporaluty.
In that sense the flow of time covers that minute gap between conscious and unconscious flow.
There really is only relative time and the relation must be a measure of one signified epoch to another.
Signification depends on signs, and since the present has no sign , it is not significant enough to take measure of.
It is merely a metaphore, her and now, as well as the next nano second.
Imagination is , on the other hand, capable of recreating a time such as one can imagine of suspended animation. But then again, that implies Other minds, and verification of shared imminance takes more than telepathy, recognition .
That those kinds of states are absolutely certain to have arisen, is within the boundaries of certainty as well.
But the imagery that someone is experiencing is in the present Artimas. We don’t live in the past.
And that imagery being brought to the conscious surface is happening in the present.
I thought so, especially when I looked it up and couldn’t find the word. But because there are so many philosophical terms that are important to the concept, it behooves the poster to try to be as clear as possible.
That’s not what I’m referring to. Any thought we’re having in the present about the past is related to the memory we have in our mind. If we lose the memory we lost the connection to the past. We don’t live in the past Artimas. We do everything in the present, even remember past events.
We can have remembrances of time past, but we cannot actually live in a time period that has already occurred (or for that matter in a time period that has yet to occur) except in our thoughts (which are occurring in the present). If we lose that memory due to amnesia, that experience doesn’t exist for us because it’s not in the here and now. Why do animals not fret about the past? Because the connection to the memory center in their brain is not developed due to lack of language.
Animals aren’t as complex as humans yet. Animals don’t fret about the past because they appreciate simplicity of the present. They are determined and easily shaped by environment, lack of consciousness.
That’s the beauty or point Pg, we can take the information without experiencing it from past/future, this is the differentiation between us and lower conscious animals, which I view them as sub/unconscious, due to their knowing but not possessing the ability to understand complexity through a-priori.
We could possibly physically recreate past/future moment, by altering environment to match specific times. With the future this is a given, the past would be trickier.
What if you have no direct memory, what if you’re fed memory through the collective sub/unconscious? Via imagery. And this collective is an infinite of time past and future. Like a cloud of data.
It is true that to live a truthful life we cannot learn everything vicariously. We have to experience life for ourselves to gain true wisdom. That is why children feel the need to experience life on their own terms as they become young adults. Still not sure what this has to do with the truth that man’s will is not free and what this means for our benefit. 
can just as well be asserted that the saying " live in the present is merely a metaphor. I am writing this determenently, in order to understand time, and end up with a metaphore, no matter how you slice it.
The present moment is already gone as soon as it is lived. We always live predeterminately on a conscious level, and in the proximate future as the last flows into the future.
This can be imagined or illustrated. by set theory as well.
The perfect essence of the imperfect reflection must end sadly, paradoxically, because perfect presence implies slicing the gap between the relative and the absolute set, up to a scintilla of a slice: where a scintilla is immeasurable.
Time expanded into the very tiniest segments end with uncertainty which is the quanta of temporality.
In that sense the flow of time covers that minute gap between conscious and unconscious flow.
There really is only relative time and the relation must be a measure of one signified epoch to another.
Signification depends on signs, and since the present has no sign , it is not significant enough to take measure of.
( look around you and see if you can re-cognise you that which was not there a moment ago?)
It is merely a metaphore, here and now, as well as the next nano second.
Imagination is , on the other hand, capable of recreating a time such as one can imagine of suspended animation. But then again, that implies Other minds, and verification of shared imminance takes more than telepathy, recognition .
That those kinds of states are absolutely certain to have arisen, is within the boundaries of certainty as well.
We can definitely alter the environment to match something we experience only in our minds, but again this can only happen in the present.
Every thought, every memory that is fed through collective sub/unconscious via imagery, is happening now. How can it not be? IOW, if the collective subconscious that feeds memory through imagery is lost and can no longer be retrieved due to an accident, all we would have is the present because that is all that exists.
But the past created the now. So is it not due to the past that there is a present at all? I would argue the present is an illusion, it’s always gone. Everything is either recent past or near future. That’s why it’s a continuity.