Biological Will

There’s only really one main offender, and oh boy he really doesn’t know much of anything - not least that he is committing fallacy after fallacy, not only the Motte and Bailey. There’s also his proof by assertion, intentionality fallacy, false dilemma fallacy, ecology fallacy - it’s probably easier to list the fallacies he doesn’t routinely commit. And it’s so adorable when he tries to call fallacies in those who disagree with him and he fucks it up so hard… You know that image of the child with the saucepan on his head hitting it with a spoon and shaking a tamborine? I just can’t shake it on the rare occasion I actually waste my time reading the same reiterated post of his - and it sounds like he’s really trying his best, bless him. But as you’ll have noticed, in the same way that the US army allegedly didn’t accept those with an IQ under 85 because the costs didn’t justify the results in training recruits, after extensive testing on my part I concluded that he is unable to learn and I no longer speak with him even though he’s so desperate for my attention. I figure he’s free (in his incomplete sense) to tantrum away and project his frustrations on others, he’s doing no harm so I just let him be to soothe himself through repetition. Other Free Will advocates are fine in comparison, it just seems like there’s a lack of familiarity with the scientific method from what I can tell.

But yes, you’re absolutely right there’s a general feel of simply being more comfortable with the belief that they have Free Will. On the subject of control, I made the ironic observation that - given misguided accusations of Determinists being “slaves” and Free Will advocates able to be “masters”, that the reins of causation bring to mind being controlled in the slave and they bring to mind the ability to take control to the master… so basically it’s an inverted analogy at best - but again there’s only really one poster special enough to be trying that one. Causation gives control - like you say it just eliminates any centre to it. The self is still just as present as it is for the Free Will advocate: a decision making agent that can be creative and individual, that can take charge and get things done, just not out of nowhere, or circularly - as if the self makes the self into itself somehow. Influences influence - the self included - it’s not intellectually difficult, but the emotional component gets in the way. You just need to realise that you lose no control, you’re just part of the chain of control, with some at the top and others at the bottom, each just as determinable to change their lot as the other dependent on conditions both internal and external. I think there’s a fear that something is lost when you think past Free Will, when in fact nothing is.

I like the Nietzschean comment of yours, about moral judgment - I seem to remember the terminology was something like the religious instinct? A form of revenge taken by the downtrodden, that the winners aren’t ultimately the winners, because they will be morally judged for their oppressing actions and reap the punishment that the downtrodden are unable to exact on them during their time on earth. He wrote Beyond Good and Evil to get past the nonsense of Free Will and other religious concepts that are not worldly - in the first chapter he specifically denounces Free Will.

1. How about this one from Part 18 of Chapter 1: “…the hundred times refuted theory of ‘free will’…”.
2. Or from Part 21: “…get beyond the peasant simplicity of this celebrated concept ‘free will’ and banish it from one’s mind”.
3. He also speaks of the causa sui that I’ve been referring to as this ex nihilo “self” - at the beginning of that same section: “The causa sui is the best self-contradiction hitherto imagined, a kind of logical rape and unnaturalness: but mankind’s extravagent pride has manged to get itself deeply and fightfully entangled with precisely this piece of nonsense…” (and it goes on!) SAVAGE
   Interestingly he actually goes on to corroborate Experientialism with respect to “cause and effect” being a mythology, as I describe in terms of Discrete Experience being a model of Continuous Experience.
   There is no evil for Determinism, at worst there’s people who turn out to do terrible things due to influences that are totally understandable and preventable, but it’s the attitudes of Free Will and Individualism that just leave people to turn out bad instead of looking into solutions about how to determine such things to not happen. It’s a fact that the Free Will attitude does a great deal of needless harm.

Slaves are so ardent to defend their Slaves and their Masters, their One-God.

Life is an inherent, intrinsic resistance against Non-existence.
Thus, to live is to resist “Entropy” or the “Negative”,
Degenerative/Destructive/Decomposing forces.
To live, is to resist Death.

Simple lifeforms have a simple (Little) resistance.
Complex lifeforms have a complex (Great) resistance.

The form of this living resistance, is Biological Will, meaning Power.
Life is the Will-to-Power. The manifestation of this is the Greater Resistance.
Those who succeed, become more efficient, are identified as Fit/Beautiful/Evolved.
Those who succeed, gain more Power, and thus, gain most Freedom.

A few humans are Free and have great Choice.
The rest are Un-free/Slaves/Determinists.
Choice is a derivative of Freedom/Power.
Choice is the manifestation of Greater Adaptation to an environment.

Thus Freedom is a biological process.

The Determinists/Slavery-defenders, use a Post Hoc Fallacy as their central argument.
They claim that “it all must be caused from the start, a priori”.
Thus there is nothing the Free Man (Rare/Fit/Evolved/Noble/Excellent) can do, to prove any degree of freedom.
The Determinists/Slavery-defenders use all their rhetorical “power”, to define Freedom as impossible.

This is a lying-strategy. What Determinists/Slavers actually do, is enslave others, in the vain hope they can find satisfaction.
“If I cannot become Free then nobody else can!!!” These types have no Hope, no Faith, no Positive-energy in life.
They are completely Negative entities. They are life-Drainers.

Promethean, Silhouette, peacegirl, and their posse, I count among this type.
Haters of Freedom

My Philosophy is Icarian, of Icarus, shooting high into the Heavens like a Rocket-ship,
Straight toward the Sun, or off into the depths of space.
Others want to pull Icarus down, tell him, “It’s impossible”.
But the Individual spirit of Icarus is too Great, too Noble, too Powerful.

The slave-mass envies what they will never have; they cannot understand the heroic spirit.
Faith, Hope, Resentiment, Contempt, against those (Naysayers) who say it cannot be done.
It can be done! It will be done!

All will be proven WRONG!

Hahah, you’re getting somewhere man. I like this.
Except for Abrahamism notion man because in Jews there is no afterlife. Only Christians and muslims have it. For Jews it is only about ancestry. If your mother is Jewish and descended from the old dudes and their adventures, then you’re noble, if not you’re well, lets not talk about that. But in Christianity and Islam, all that you need to do is commit your word to a name.

But yeah the main tenet of much Socialist movement was “there is no inborn nobility”. I just heard it when I figured if I could understand the Spanish thats on the tv in a Breaking Bad scene, and thats what I made out. “there is no inborn nobility”, someone kept repeating that. I think. But I remembered this was the thing it was all about. The USA is on the one hand land of the free and heritage, but this goes away if it isn’t a privilege to be born there.

The thing with he Jews is, their messiah hasn’t come. They used to figure ok we wait. But then my great great great (x10) granddad or so taught that this wasn’t necessary. To wait, it could happen now. People could start preparing now, for warrior-mode. For taking the temple back from the Assyrians or whatever the assailants were when they left. “Goy” is just a way of talking down on an Assyrian, where you know he is damned powerful but you can’t let that stop you.

So thats free will. He broke the rule. And now they have the promised land. Abraham may have been a determinist, but Rebecca was not, she conspired to take birth right from the eldest son by fooling the father. The link of Determinism was broken and the Chosen people was going to be born out of blind will.

Self-chosen. Freedom.
12 tribes, like 12 tasks and 12 months, they planned it well.

Once again, freedom is a rigorous operation.

I know not everyone thinks a Jew is the greatest example of freedom but it takes one to know one, first of all. And I would say even in Jews it appears as an exception. Freedom always has to be the exception to some rule, that is why anarchism is the final prison.

To Barbarian: Not exactly: There are enlightened people among us , who have carried the orientalism of the Hindu sense of karmic law, and are.able to produce non vested nobility by am inherent possession of transcendental law, like Gandi.

This transcendence has been carried through by lineage, and it is self aware of it’s religious and mystical sources.

In that sense freedom has no object, relating logically to it’s objective, and the only thing it offers is a silent resistance, where silence offers it’s special sense of freedom.

That sense Inn the West has been muted, but the strain is sustained silently, in partially disparate places and people like Christ , who has in his lost years was said to travel the silk road.l, and Schopenhauer, and even Nietzsche’s Superman.

This is relevant to Baranarians next to last comment.

If you rout it through the mum as the Hebrews did, you get a matriarchal spirit. Thats tough, like Italy.

Asylum cores are broken to -
dispel the
,while, barbarian, and when the coolage dam okay.

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Meno, and, Nemo
I rest my , point. Comma.

You may rest, Barbarion, but a short pause of evolution does not mean the end of it. Pre- Gnostic , non colliding-colluding processes produce asexuality as an ideal solution for mystics and monks.

I always thought the most relevant Jewish figure was Samson.

It is because it is, fuck you. All proud peoples understand this code.

Your memo is not worth the virtual paper that it’s supposed to be written on. But who cares if such trifle difference is not shared.

So long,

Learn to speak Meno.

Fuck you.

pede, you and guide should form a mutual admiration society. It may generate a few laughs.

I should have knzzown.

Never trust a “so long” from a leftist.

At least you had the decency to formulate some coherent sentences there. I do appreciate it.

So long.

My dick is like, so long.

And it shows the real nature (motive, value) of Gods forgiveness.

Damn that’s a tough break, man. The same thing happened to James Hetfield after the ‘and justice for all’ album when he cut his hair. It was pretty much over for him, then. It got so bad he even did a Bob Seger cover.